Seriously all. If you sell your ticket for "face value" as a season ticket holder, what you pay for your own ticket is less than a member would pay "on the door" if you like.

Is it right to charge £45 for a ticket (because that's the going rate at the box office), when as a season ticket holder you pay £27 (theoretically!). Is that "touting" as you're actually turning a profit on your ticket?

Serious question.

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I sort of get that, in effect then I could buy a season ticket for say £450 and sell all 19 games for £40 a game and make £300 profit on my season ticket.

Or sell 11 of the worst games I don't care to watch against your WBA's and Southamptons and go to 8 'big games' and they're all free

Well yes, but in that case you'd be happily touting away and would not be asking the moral questions you are.

And I'd say we are nowwhere near popular enough to make sure you'd get that profit, as we don't sell out all games. Also the lesser games are not 40quid. Apart from the Watford one that is. Mind you, you may be able to see Manure and the bindipper games forfar more then 40.

I’ve only ever sold my season ticket to friends when I can’t make it for the pro-rated amount, which is about £25.

In the past when I’ve bought of season ticket holders on here, they have done the same to me.

The spirit of this forum is to help other fans out, it’s not a market place.

Last time I tried to buy a ticket on here someone tried to sell me a child’s ticket for £40. Which to me is deeply unethical. I’m not the type of person to complain about these matters, but if someone did the seller could find themselves losing their ticket, getting banned from Selhurst, and possibly a criminal record for the sake of a few quid.

The reselling of football tickets is illegal.
Touting is defined as selling tickets for over face value. It’s not illegal (except for football matches). If you sell a ticket in the street, you need a license. Therefore, if you hand over a ticket in the street, you could be breaking the law. If you are making regular profit on your ticket, then you could also be subject to tax.

If a profit isn’t going to be made, then it is likely that any authorities are likely not to have any interest, even though it is illegal. If people start trying to make profit then it will put them and HOL at risk.

If we can't make it, we sell our Arthur ST seats to mates for £30 - works out about right, small profit/loss depending on whether you take the early bird offer... .

Me too. Can't make Saturday so brother-in-law and friend are going. Might have to rethink that offer . . .

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I do the same, normally evening games I leave my son at home and offer his ticket to a friend, I get a pint sometimes

the discount is a gift for the season ticket holder no one else

It's fair enough to recover costs off a ticket imho. Just personally don't agree with selling a ticket to a stranger or friend, for more than what i pay for it.