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Stirlingsays Flag 10 Apr 19 1.42pm

Exciting day today.

Nasa release the long awaited first images of two black holes they have been looking at for several years......Should get the first news from 1500.

 


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Park Road Flag 10 Apr 19 1.47pm

Just read about it. Apparently, due to the limited amount of big telescopes observing it - it sounds like a song from a piano with a lot of broken keys - you just have to decipher what's available.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 10 Apr 19 1.54pm

Originally posted by Park Road

Just read about it. Apparently, due to the limited amount of big telescopes observing it - it sounds like a song from a piano with a lot of broken keys - you just have to decipher what's available.

They have certainly spent a lot of time deciphering it......some suggesting that Sag A may have a jet pointed right at us or we may get a realistic event horizon.

Let's hope we get something anyway...I know they have data on a second black hole as well.......it'll be nice to learn more about their nature anyway.....considering it's what our sun is indirectly orbiting.


Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Apr 2019 1.56pm)

 


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Park Road Flag 10 Apr 19 2.09pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

They have certainly spent a lot of time deciphering it......some suggesting that Sag A may have a jet pointed right at us or we may get a realistic event horizon.

Let's hope we get something anyway...I know they have data on a second black hole as well.......it'll be nice to learn more about their nature anyway.....considering it's what our sun is indirectly orbiting.


Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Apr 2019 1.56pm)

Taking photos of a black hole's silhouette is like photographing an orange on the moon.
What kind of jet? My jargon is limited on the subject.
Sag A being the hole and event horizon being the telescope??

 

Stirlingsays Flag 10 Apr 19 2.24pm

Originally posted by Park Road

Taking photos of a black hole's silhouette is like photographing an orange on the moon.
What kind of jet? My jargon is limited on the subject.
Sag A being the hole and event horizon being the telescope??

Whatever particles get close enough to a 'black hole' end up in its event horizon....the orbital point around the 'black hole' within which no escape is possible.....whatever it is that got that close to the star will be shredded into particles and they will fall into the object.

We know that, depending upon some conditions being met, jets erupt from the poles of black holes, shooting particles at speeds approaching that of light.

We may have one of those jets pointed at us or near us....which may account for the longer time it's taken to reveal the images.....or perhaps it's for another reason.


Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Apr 2019 2.27pm)

 


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Park Road Flag 10 Apr 19 2.31pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Whatever particles get close enough to a 'black hole' end up in its event horizon....the orbital point around the 'black hole' within which no escape is possible.....whatever it is that got that close to the star will be shredded into particles and they will fall into the object.

We know that, depending upon some conditions being met, jets erupt from the poles of black holes, shooting particles at speeds approaching that of light.

We may have one of those jets pointed at us or near us....which may account for the longer time it's taken to reveal the images.....or perhaps it's for another reason.


Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Apr 2019 2.27pm)

Ok thanks... just read about those jets of gas shooting out at the speed of light...
All quite interesting if not difficult to get my head round it..

 

Park Road Flag 10 Apr 19 2.32pm

There's a live conference on sky news now about it

 

Mr Fenandes Flag 10 Apr 19 2.34pm

Doesn't the information paradox suggest we are currently existing on an event horizon in a kind-of 2D form, whilst we "see" the world in 3D which is actually nothing more than a hologram?

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 10 Apr 19 2.34pm

Wow, not Sag A star I think but an amazing image all the same.

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Park Road Flag 10 Apr 19 2.40pm

Originally posted by Mr Fenandes

Doesn't the information paradox suggest we are currently existing on an event horizon in a kind-of 2D form, whilst we "see" the world in 3D which is actually nothing more than a hologram?

the puzzle of where the information goes when matter is consumed by a black hole.

I'm way out of my depth here

 

Stirlingsays Flag 10 Apr 19 2.41pm

Originally posted by Mr Fenandes

Doesn't the information paradox suggest we are currently existing on an event horizon in a kind-of 2D form, whilst we "see" the world in 3D which is actually nothing more than a hologram?

The holographic theory is interesting and there are definitely some suggestions that 'distance' between objects isn't something we fully understand....entanglement is a mystery, what happens to information beyond the event horizon. Perhaps we will inch forward soon.

But these are concepts, like gravity, that are mysteries yet to be revealed.....like Newton said.

'I know not how I seem to others, but to myself I am but a small child wandering upon the vast shores of knowledge, every now and then finding a small bright pebble to content myself with while the vast ocean of undiscovered truth lay before me.'

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Apr 19 3.03pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Wow, not Sag A star I think but an amazing image all the same.

That's a Monster Munch I discarded several decades ago

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 10 Apr 19 3.07pm

Looks super, magic...

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 10 Apr 19 3.34pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

That's a Monster Munch I discarded several decades ago

Yep, I suspect myself that when we finally get an image of the first Alien life form it's going to closely resemble a Walls Potato Waffle.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Apr 19 3.57pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, I suspect myself that when we finally get an image of the first Alien life form it's going to closely resemble a Walls Potato Waffle.

Could probably adapt to life on Earth - very versatile.

 


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Park Road Flag 10 Apr 19 4.06pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Could probably adapt to life on Earth - very versatile.

 

kegart Flag London 10 Apr 19 4.17pm

Looks like a picture of a bagel, taken in a dark kitchen taken with a cheap flash camera.

Seriously, what a marvelous image, it is truly amazing.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 10 Apr 19 4.34pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Could probably adapt to life on Earth - very versatile.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 10 Apr 19 4.36pm

Originally posted by kegart

Looks like a picture of a bagel, taken in a dark kitchen taken with a cheap flash camera.

Seriously, what a marvelous image, it is truly amazing.

All these food descriptions of this black hole are making me hungry.

I'm being pulled towards the event horizon of this doughnut.

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 10 Apr 19 5.27pm

Tinged with a bit of sadness, that Stephen Hawking is not around to see it.

I read his book of short stories "Black Holes and Baby Universes", which explains some theories of the universe using extremely user-friendly language.

 


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