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glaziermart 16 Sep 19 9.19am
I think quite a few of us are starting to get a bit irritated by Roy's safety first tactics, trying to pinch games rather than stamp our authority. We need to start Camarasa next Sunday against Wolves. He is clearly very talented, maybe fitness has been an issue up to now, but trying him in a free role maybe in front of Luka and Jimmy Mac is the way forward. I will be really annoyed if Roy starts with a three of Luka, Kouyate and Jimmy Mac again, with Wilf and schlupp pushed up either side of Ayew. That formation suits us better away. We need to be more flexible at home with our tactics and formations

glaziermart

16 Sep 19 9.19am

I think quite a few of us are starting to get a bit irritated by Roy's safety first tactics, trying to pinch games rather than stamp our authority. We need to start Camarasa next Sunday against Wolves. He is clearly very talented, maybe fitness has been an issue up to now, but trying him in a free role maybe in front of Luka and Jimmy Mac is the way forward. I will be really annoyed if Roy starts with a three of Luka, Kouyate and Jimmy Mac again, with Wilf and schlupp pushed up either side of Ayew. That formation suits us better away. We need to be more flexible at home with our tactics and formations

PatrickA London 16 Sep 19 9.47am
I agree, but Hodgson is not one for change unless it’s forced on him through injury. The only surprising innovation I can recall was in his first season when he paired Zaha and Townsend up front and this worked reasonably well. However, this was forced upon him as no strikers were available. We have seen a pattern with Hodgson about not trusting overseas signings from outside the Premier League ( think Meyer,Riedewald,,Sorloth) and I fear Camarasa may fall into this category despite his experience in the Premier League. Hodgson is always more likely to play Mcarthur, Schlupp or Townsend. Makes me think Hodgson has little input with regard to our signings.

PatrickA

London 16 Sep 19 9.47am

I agree, but Hodgson is not one for change unless it’s forced on him through injury.
The only surprising innovation I can recall was in his first season when he paired Zaha and Townsend up front and this worked reasonably well.
However, this was forced upon him as no strikers were available.
We have seen a pattern with Hodgson about not trusting overseas signings from outside the Premier League ( think Meyer,Riedewald,,Sorloth) and I fear Camarasa may fall into this category despite his experience in the Premier League.
Hodgson is always more likely to play Mcarthur, Schlupp or Townsend.
Makes me think Hodgson has little input with regard to our signings.

EddieMac 16 Sep 19 10.14am
I agree. He has to start soon. He was the only player on our bench on Saturday that could have made a difference and he should have been given at least a half an hour as the game was already dead as a contest. The only other player we have in our team who is capable of unlocking a defence or actually passing the ball 10 yards is Meyer and he is never going to be a regular.

EddieMac

16 Sep 19 10.14am

I agree. He has to start soon. He was the only player on our bench on Saturday that could have made a difference and he should have been given at least a half an hour as the game was already dead as a contest.

The only other player we have in our team who is capable of unlocking a defence or actually passing the ball 10 yards is Meyer and he is never going to be a regular.

Neilsym26 Bromley 16 Sep 19 10.25am
I know I may be the only one to think this but I dont get the whole Schlupp thing. I reckon he is the first name on the team sheet! Granted he set up Ayew against Utd but thats all he's done. He's none effective in the centre of midfield. Even when he's on the left its not as if he takes on players at will. No creative spark at all. We've got Meyer and Camarasa that can open up defenses and bring players into play. Yet Roy will almost definitely play Schlupp/Mcarthur no matter what. Squad player at best. Roys really starting to get on my nerves. With his squad choice.

Neilsym26

Bromley 16 Sep 19 10.25am

I know I may be the only one to think this but I dont get the whole Schlupp thing. I reckon he is the first name on the team sheet! Granted he set up Ayew against Utd but thats all he's done. He's none effective in the centre of midfield. Even when he's on the left its not as if he takes on players at will. No creative spark at all. We've got Meyer and Camarasa that can open up defenses and bring players into play. Yet Roy will almost definitely play Schlupp/Mcarthur no matter what. Squad player at best. Roys really starting to get on my nerves. With his squad choice.

taylors lovechild 16 Sep 19 10.52am
He was Cardiff's players' POTY last season and stood out in the games I saw. He's also pretty tough for a creative player from what I remember. He has said his best position is as the link between midfield and attack, so let's not mess about and just play him there. Luka, McArthur, McCarthy and Kouyate can then fight it out for the holding midfield roles. Schlupp or Townsend on the left, Zaha on the right. Ayew up top and Bentenke serving the puddings in the canteen.

taylors lovechild

16 Sep 19 10.52am

He was Cardiff's players' POTY last season and stood out in the games I saw. He's also pretty tough for a creative player from what I remember. He has said his best position is as the link between midfield and attack, so let's not mess about and just play him there. Luka, McArthur, McCarthy and Kouyate can then fight it out for the holding midfield roles. Schlupp or Townsend on the left, Zaha on the right. Ayew up top and Bentenke serving the puddings in the canteen.

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 16 Sep 19 11.03am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild He was Cardiff's players' POTY last season and stood out in the games I saw. He's also pretty tough for a creative player from what I remember. He has said his best position is as the link between midfield and attack, so let's not mess about and just play him there. Luka, McArthur, McCarthy and Kouyate can then fight it out for the holding midfield roles. Schlupp or Townsend on the left, Zaha on the right. Ayew up top and Bentenke serving the puddings in the canteen. Think you might be asking too much from Benteke “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 16 Sep 19 11.03am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Think you might be asking too much from Benteke

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Bangell Oxford 16 Sep 19 11.08am
We will certainly need a change of tactic or we'll lose. I saw us play Wolves at home last year and for all the excitement about what a side they were, they were remarkably negative - they knew exactly how to win at Selhurst. Given that they've just shipped 5 against Chelsea, I'm sure defensive solidity is what they'll be working on. Classic Selhurst 0-1 loss incoming unless we play differently.

Bangell

Oxford 16 Sep 19 11.08am

We will certainly need a change of tactic or we'll lose. I saw us play Wolves at home last year and for all the excitement about what a side they were, they were remarkably negative - they knew exactly how to win at Selhurst. Given that they've just shipped 5 against Chelsea, I'm sure defensive solidity is what they'll be working on. Classic Selhurst 0-1 loss incoming unless we play differently.

EddieMac 16 Sep 19 11.44am
Originally posted by Bangell We will certainly need a change of tactic or we'll lose. I saw us play Wolves at home last year and for all the excitement about what a side they were, they were remarkably negative - they knew exactly how to win at Selhurst. Given that they've just shipped 5 against Chelsea, I'm sure defensive solidity is what they'll be working on. Classic Selhurst 0-1 loss incoming unless we play differently. Wolves style of football is not very different to ours. They are defensive first with every man behind the ball then hit on the break. This is the reason they do well against the top teams a bit like ourselves.The big difference with them and us is they have decent strikers. Matt Doherty is a massive player in the way they play and he has been injured since the start of the season but it looks like he will be back against us which is a negative. I said to a mate at the start of the year that they will be found out this year and relegated. Edited by EddieMac (16 Sep 2019 11.48am)

EddieMac

16 Sep 19 11.44am

Originally posted by Bangell

Wolves style of football is not very different to ours. They are defensive first with every man behind the ball then hit on the break. This is the reason they do well against the top teams a bit like ourselves.The big difference with them and us is they have decent strikers.

Matt Doherty is a massive player in the way they play and he has been injured since the start of the season but it looks like he will be back against us which is a negative.

I said to a mate at the start of the year that they will be found out this year and relegated.

Edited by EddieMac (16 Sep 2019 11.48am)

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 19 11.50am
Originally posted by EddieMac Wolves style of football is not very different to ours. They are defensive first with every man behind the ball then hit on the break. This is the reason they do well against the top teams a bit like ourselves.The big difference with them and us is they have decent strikers. Matt Doherty is a massive player in the way they play and he has been out injured since the start of the season but it looks like he will be back against us which is a negative. I said to a mate at the start of the year that they will be found out this year and relegated. Last season at ‘Selhurst Park’ Wolves we’re very negative and didn't deserve their 1-0 victory, They conceded 5 at home to Chelsea in their last game so will be hell-bent on keeping a clean sheet. One expects more negativity from them and of course we don’t have the creativity to break down teams. Could be another 1-0 win for Wolves. In terms of comparison of systems, Wolves were promoted using three at the back and two wing-backs and have continued in this vein, we of course play with a back four. Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2019 11.53am)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 19 11.50am

Originally posted by EddieMac

Matt Doherty is a massive player in the way they play and he has been out injured since the start of the season but it looks like he will be back against us which is a negative.

I said to a mate at the start of the year that they will be found out this year and relegated.

Last season at ‘Selhurst Park’ Wolves we’re very negative and didn't deserve their 1-0 victory, They conceded 5 at home to Chelsea in their last game so will be hell-bent on keeping a clean sheet. One expects more negativity from them and of course we don’t have the creativity to break down teams. Could be another 1-0 win for Wolves.

In terms of comparison of systems, Wolves were promoted using three at the back and two wing-backs and have continued in this vein, we of course play with a back four.

Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2019 11.53am)

eag-les Coulsdon 16 Sep 19 11.50am
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Think you might be asking too much from Benteke A bit harsh dropping the dinner lady If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong

eag-les

Coulsdon 16 Sep 19 11.50am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Think you might be asking too much from Benteke

A bit harsh dropping the dinner lady

If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong

Rudi Hedman Caterham 16 Sep 19 12.26pm
Originally posted by EddieMac Wolves style of football is not very different to ours. They are defensive first with every man behind the ball then hit on the break. This is the reason they do well against the top teams a bit like ourselves.The big difference with them and us is they have decent strikers. Matt Doherty is a massive player in the way they play and he has been injured since the start of the season but it looks like he will be back against us which is a negative. I said to a mate at the start of the year that they will be found out this year and relegated. Edited by EddieMac (16 Sep 2019 11.48am) The Europa competition is going to damage them for however long, that’s for sure. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 16 Sep 19 12.26pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

Matt Doherty is a massive player in the way they play and he has been injured since the start of the season but it looks like he will be back against us which is a negative.

I said to a mate at the start of the year that they will be found out this year and relegated.

Edited by EddieMac (16 Sep 2019 11.48am)

The Europa competition is going to damage them for however long, that’s for sure.

COYP

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Sep 19 3.58pm
Not going to happen. Maybe ten minutes. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Sep 19 3.58pm

Not going to happen. Maybe ten minutes.

Red and Blue Army!

braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 16 Sep 19 5.21pm
seems like its a case of the emperors new clothes to me. before saturday we had taken 7 points from 4 games...and i dont think kouyate or schlupp deserve to lose their place. wolves are going to use the sit in & condede possession against us, its going to be one of those horrible games with no space afforded in the final 3rd. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

braunstoneagle

the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 16 Sep 19 5.21pm

seems like its a case of the emperors new clothes to me.

before saturday we had taken 7 points from 4 games...and i dont think kouyate or schlupp deserve to lose their place.

wolves are going to use the sit in & condede possession against us, its going to be one of those horrible games with no space afforded in the final 3rd.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 16 Sep 19 7.44pm
Originally posted by Willo Last season at ‘Selhurst Park’ Wolves we’re very negative and didn't deserve their 1-0 victory, They conceded 5 at home to Chelsea in their last game so will be hell-bent on keeping a clean sheet. One expects more negativity from them and of course we don’t have the creativity to break down teams. Could be another 1-0 win for Wolves. In terms of comparison of systems, Wolves were promoted using three at the back and two wing-backs and have continued in this vein, we of course play with a back four. Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2019 11.53am) Yes they were a bit negative but totally disagree they didn't deserve there win. Thought they were a rock solid unit and the second half especially were far better than us... They haven't won yet this season which means they're nailed on to beat us!! Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

kennybrowns leftfoot

Reigate 16 Sep 19 7.44pm

Originally posted by Willo

Last season at ‘Selhurst Park’ Wolves we’re very negative and didn't deserve their 1-0 victory, They conceded 5 at home to Chelsea in their last game so will be hell-bent on keeping a clean sheet. One expects more negativity from them and of course we don’t have the creativity to break down teams. Could be another 1-0 win for Wolves.

In terms of comparison of systems, Wolves were promoted using three at the back and two wing-backs and have continued in this vein, we of course play with a back four.

Edited by Willo (16 Sep 2019 11.53am)

Yes they were a bit negative but totally disagree they didn't deserve there win. Thought they were a rock solid unit and the second half especially were far better than us...

They haven't won yet this season which means they're nailed on to beat us!!

Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

Rachid Rachid Rachid 16 Sep 19 8.02pm
Originally posted by PatrickA I agree, but Hodgson is not one for change unless it’s forced on him through injury. The only surprising innovation I can recall was in his first season when he paired Zaha and Townsend up front and this worked reasonably well. However, this was forced upon him as no strikers were available. We have seen a pattern with Hodgson about not trusting overseas signings from outside the Premier League ( think Meyer,Riedewald,,Sorloth) and I fear Camarasa may fall into this category despite his experience in the Premier League. Hodgson is always more likely to play Mcarthur, Schlupp or Townsend. Makes me think Hodgson has little input with regard to our signings. Meyer, Riedewald and Sorloth have been toilet. Not a question of trust.

Rachid Rachid Rachid

16 Sep 19 8.02pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

Meyer, Riedewald and Sorloth have been toilet. Not a question of trust.

HeathMan Purley 16 Sep 19 8.39pm
Surely you buy players to play, and encourage academy players by giving them game time. If the changes are rung - with ball and men moving forward when needed, goals will come. Agree Roy does need to move away from win or must not lose to I want to see you in action (there is a First Team Place for you to claim). COYP

HeathMan

Purley 16 Sep 19 8.39pm

Surely you buy players to play, and encourage academy players by giving them game time. If the changes are rung - with ball and men moving forward when needed, goals will come. Agree Roy does need to move away from win or must not lose to I want to see you in action (there is a First Team Place for you to claim).

COYP

samprior Hamburg 16 Sep 19 10.26pm
I'd play him through the middle in front of Luka and Kouyate/MacArthur. With Schlupp left and Wilf right. Only thing that worries me was when Camarasa did finally get on he was stuck out on the left with Schlupp playing centrally. Which to me makes no sense but hopefully that's not a sign of where we plan to use him...although Meyer's majority of chances have also been on the left and that's not exactly been a success. We shall see I guess.

samprior

Hamburg 16 Sep 19 10.26pm

I'd play him through the middle in front of Luka and Kouyate/MacArthur. With Schlupp left and Wilf right.

Only thing that worries me was when Camarasa did finally get on he was stuck out on the left with Schlupp playing centrally. Which to me makes no sense but hopefully that's not a sign of where we plan to use him...although Meyer's majority of chances have also been on the left and that's not exactly been a success.

We shall see I guess.

Pollawec London 16 Sep 19 10.29pm
100% agree he has got to start. RH needs to change up the tactics. He will certainly give a different shape to the midfield.

Pollawec

London 16 Sep 19 10.29pm

100% agree he has got to start. RH needs to change up the tactics. He will certainly give a different shape to the midfield.

Dean_CPFC South london 17 Sep 19 2.13am
Why did we buy two more central midfielders?! That's 6 we've got now but no winger cover and only two fit strikers

Dean_CPFC

South london 17 Sep 19 2.13am

Why did we buy two more central midfielders?! That's 6 we've got now but no winger cover and only two fit strikers

n wales eagles llandudno 17 Sep 19 6.51am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild He was Cardiff's players' POTY last season and stood out in the games I saw. He's also pretty tough for a creative player from what I remember. He has said his best position is as the link between midfield and attack, so let's not mess about and just play him there. Luka, McArthur, McCarthy and Kouyate can then fight it out for the holding midfield roles. Schlupp or Townsend on the left, Zaha on the right. Ayew up top and Bentenke serving the puddings in the canteen. Nearly correct thing benteke would be better off at Kettering than catering

n wales eagles

llandudno 17 Sep 19 6.51am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Nearly correct thing benteke would be better off at Kettering than catering

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