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Casual Flag Orpington 29 Jul 20 6.04pm

Never been busier at the moment. Due to the lockdown (build up of work), furlough being paid, mortgage holidays, people not going on holiday.
Furlough finishing October, mortgage payment holidays finishing, bounce back loans starting to be paid back.
I reckon that it will be flat out upto Xmas, then it will nose dive massively. Usually jan/feb are a bit slower then it picks up, don’t think it will in 2021.
Batten down the hatches I think.

 

jason7 Flag croydon 29 Jul 20 7.30pm

I’m finding that too,have work coming out my ears.Any floorlayer looking for work.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 29 Jul 20 7.32pm

How much of the not working at the start of lockdown was because of shortage of materials, people postponing or builders taking a part paid rest? Or not wanting to be off and on claiming furlough?

I don’t blame them.

Thanks for the post. Good to hear. What I expected with few holidays taken.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 29 Jul 20 7.58pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

How much of the not working at the start of lockdown was because of shortage of materials, people postponing or builders taking a part paid rest? Or not wanting to be off and on claiming furlough?

I don’t blame them.

Thanks for the post. Good to hear. What I expected with few holidays taken.

Are you agreeing to them claiming up to 7k of our money; twice without needing it or just taking time off. That's 14k that paye have to cover. I hope everyone who took this illegally gets caught and given a huge fine along with having to pay it back.

 

Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 29 Jul 20 8.14pm

Originally posted by Casual

Never been busier at the moment. Due to the lockdown (build up of work), furlough being paid, mortgage holidays, people not going on holiday.
Furlough finishing October, mortgage payment holidays finishing, bounce back loans starting to be paid back.
I reckon that it will be flat out upto Xmas, then it will nose dive massively. Usually jan/feb are a bit slower then it picks up, don’t think it will in 2021.
Batten down the hatches I think.


I’m the same, can’t work out while I’m so busy but also expecting next year to struggle.

Rents going down though for first time ever that I can remember

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Casual Flag Orpington 30 Jul 20 6.55am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

How much of the not working at the start of lockdown was because of shortage of materials, people postponing or builders taking a part paid rest? Or not wanting to be off and on claiming furlough?

I don’t blame them.

Thanks for the post. Good to hear. What I expected with few holidays taken.

We haven’t had a day off, worked all the way through. Plaster has been hard to get, but we’ve always had some.
It was hard for builders that never saw the lockdown coming, as most of the builders yards shut and the ones that were open were only doing deliveries.
The firms that are slow at paying their bills and are generally rude to the lads in the builders yards were the ones that struggled for materials.
Plaster has been slow to get as people are panic buying, it took a while to get the amount of plaster needed from the factory, I hear it is now the bags that the plaster goes in that can’t be made quick enough.
Don’t know what will happen if there’s a second wave, the government would need to lengthen the furlough scheme and everyone have another 3 months mortgage holiday, just delaying an even bigger slump.

 

HeathMan Flag Purley 30 Jul 20 7.19am

Good to read that you and team have been working all the time, Good luck for the future.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 30 Jul 20 7.48am

The self employed handyman I use has been really busy he has more work than he can handle.

I guess a lot of people sitting at home bored have decided to freshen up their homes, moving is a nightmare so they are opting for a revamp instead.

Good luck to everyone out there hope you keep busy.

 


One more point

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Jul 20 8.18am

Originally posted by cryrst

Are you agreeing to them claiming up to 7k of our money; twice without needing it or just taking time off. That's 14k that paye have to cover. I hope everyone who took this illegally gets caught and given a huge fine along with having to pay it back.

It’s a physically demanding and damaging job. Bad backs etc. Knowing when to take a break can be a difficult decision when self employed. This made the decision that bit easier. Not saying it’s right but I can see why some people thought fvck it when millions of others were glad to be off. A team of builders were at a neighbour’s and I don’t think anyone said a word. Surprised really given the amount of snitching and grassing going on.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 30 Jul 20 11.47am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

It’s a physically demanding and damaging job. Bad backs etc. Knowing when to take a break can be a difficult decision when self employed. This made the decision that bit easier. Not saying it’s right but I can see why some people thought fvck it when millions of others were glad to be off. A team of builders were at a neighbour’s and I don’t think anyone said a word. Surprised really given the amount of snitching and grassing going on.

The tax man will have a plan to find out.
Might ask for bank statements which will show wages and furlough payments. One man bands will get away with it but self employed through another company will get caught. Cant pay cash for too long as it has to be put on their accounts.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Jul 20 12.04pm

Originally posted by cryrst

The tax man will have a plan to find out.
Might ask for bank statements which will show wages and furlough payments. One man bands will get away with it but self employed through another company will get caught. Cant pay cash for too long as it has to be put on their accounts.

That’s fraud.

Deciding to take furlough after cancelling private work isn’t.

But you could’ve done the odd job for cash while on furlough. But I suppose only if the customer phones and says they’ll pay cash because they want it done and builders weren’t really wanting to disrupt their break in a heatwave and £2,500 a month.

 


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JohnB Flag 30 Jul 20 12.07pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

That’s fraud.

Deciding to take furlough after cancelling private work isn’t.

But you could’ve done the odd job for cash while on furlough. But I suppose only if the customer phones and says they’ll pay cash because they want it done and builders weren’t really wanting to disrupt their break in a heatwave and £2,500 a month.

You can be on furlough and take a secondary job and get paid from that job. I think you just couldn't work the same hours as your furloughed job which is why lots of people were doing night shifts at supermarkets etc. Maybe this lot were furloughed from their night shift building jobs

 

kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 30 Jul 20 1.54pm

Ironically, Paint (in particular, masonry paint) has been in very short supply.
Painting is a very common DIY job, so loads of punters furloughed from office jobs etc, have been painting at home.
I had my entire bookings schedule wiped out over 2 days just before the lockdown was announced.
(phone & email, everything was cancelled or put on hold by customers)
With exception of a 2k deposit paid a week before had no income for nearly 3 months, but did receive 3k grant.
I wont be claiming the 2nd grant in August as since I've been back I've been busiest than Ive been for many years, so dont need it & I believe not entitled either.

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 30 Jul 20 1.59pm

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

Ironically, Paint (in particular, masonry paint) has been in very short supply.
Painting is a very common DIY job, so loads of punters furloughed from office jobs etc, have been painting at home.
I had my entire bookings schedule wiped out over 2 days just before the lockdown was announced.
(phone & email, everything was cancelled or put on hold by customers)
With exception of a 2k deposit paid a week before had no income for nearly 3 months, but did receive 3k grant.
I wont be claiming the 2nd grant in August as since I've been back I've been busiest than Ive been for many years, so dont need it & I believe not entitled either.


I’ve always liked you but your attitude here p@sses me off.

Take the grant man, it’s the least you deserve after a life time of paying in to the system.

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 30 Jul 20 2.44pm

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

Ironically, Paint (in particular, masonry paint) has been in very short supply.
Painting is a very common DIY job, so loads of punters furloughed from office jobs etc, have been painting at home.
I had my entire bookings schedule wiped out over 2 days just before the lockdown was announced.
(phone & email, everything was cancelled or put on hold by customers)
With exception of a 2k deposit paid a week before had no income for nearly 3 months, but did receive 3k grant.
I wont be claiming the 2nd grant in August as since I've been back I've been busiest than Ive been for many years, so dont need it & I believe not entitled either.

I take my hat off to your morals Bob, but take the money.

This country is now so full of ponces that put nothing in and take everything, that you might as well join the fu(kers. I would.

I've always been PAYE and have paid proper tax unlike you self employed and I'd rather you had it than some illegal immigrant who rocks up at Dover and is given a handout.

Perhaps if everyone like you takes it, then we'll have nothing left to send to India to fund their space programme. Win win.

 

Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 30 Jul 20 4.22pm

I find it difficult to criticise self-employed workers who have exploited furlough.
Mega-rich people , such as Jamie Oliver, furloughing house-keepers, and the like.
The taxman ain't gonna chase a few cash-in-hand jobs for self-employed (you would hope), when m/billionaires have been furloughing staff all over the place.
the only thing that would be of concern to me, is that builders who've been working in lots of other people's houses , might be bringing Covid-19 to your home.

You pays your money, you take your chances

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Jul 20 5.56pm

I was also talking about builders who thought fvck it I’ll put my feet upon £2,500 a month like everyone else in the heatwave and didn’t do any undeclared work. Why not. There’s now plenty of work.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 30 Jul 20 6.16pm

When taxes go up, which they will I'm sure some have taken the raise in advance to afford it. I'm sure everyone will be made up to pay back what's been given; even fraudulently.

 

Casual Flag Orpington 30 Jul 20 7.28pm

Some of my blokes were moaning that they couldn’t claim , I said to them they hadn’t missed a days work , the pubs are shut and they couldn’t eat out. Should be the most flush they’ve ever been.
I haven’t had anything off the government personally, although I have been able to furlough my wife (she loves a good furloughing!)

Did have a result though as halfway through doing my house and needed to borrow some money, was all agreed but the plug got pulled when lockdown kicked in. Got a bounce back loan (£50,000 which won’t finish the house , but has helped.
Got all my builders on the bounce back loan, that way they couldn’t plead poverty when I put a bill in

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards robdave2k Flag 30 Jul 20 7.43pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle


I’ve always liked you but your attitude here p@sses me off.

Take the grant man, it’s the least you deserve after a life time of paying in to the system.

The fact they will check the claim may be a put off. You have to self-certify you were affected.

There will be checks, lots of them.

Edited by robdave2k (30 Jul 2020 7.45pm)

 

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