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andyachtie Monte Giberto 16 May 23 5.59am
Yet again Garth Crooks has a dig at Crystal Palace!!!! Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace): I saw the contact made by Joachim Andersen on Jefferson Lerma in Crystal Palace's 2-0 win over Bournemouth and could not believe no action was taken. It was made with a closed fist and landed square on Jefferson's nose and broke it. If it had been a middleweight boxing contest it would have scored three on the points card, and Jefferson would have been entitled to a count. In fact the player had to take one. I've seen some incompetence since the introduction of VAR but this takes some beating. While most of us were wondering how on earth the incident could have been judged to be anything other than a punch, the video assistant referee thought otherwise. Meanwhile Eberechi Eze was subjecting Bournemouth and thrilling the Crystal Palace crowd with his own brand of knockout blows. This kid looks better every time I see him. His second goal was a peach equalled only by the pass provided for him by Michael Olise. The way these two super youngsters are emerging at Palace is impressive. All they need now is a young manager to help them develop. Oh yes - they had one of them and decided to get rid of him.

andyachtie

Monte Giberto 16 May 23 5.59am

Yet again Garth Crooks has a dig at Crystal Palace!!!!

Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace): I saw the contact made by Joachim Andersen on Jefferson Lerma in Crystal Palace's 2-0 win over Bournemouth and could not believe no action was taken. It was made with a closed fist and landed square on Jefferson's nose and broke it. If it had been a middleweight boxing contest it would have scored three on the points card, and Jefferson would have been entitled to a count. In fact the player had to take one. I've seen some incompetence since the introduction of VAR but this takes some beating. While most of us were wondering how on earth the incident could have been judged to be anything other than a punch, the video assistant referee thought otherwise. Meanwhile Eberechi Eze was subjecting Bournemouth and thrilling the Crystal Palace crowd with his own brand of knockout blows. This kid looks better every time I see him. His second goal was a peach equalled only by the pass provided for him by Michael Olise. The way these two super youngsters are emerging at Palace is impressive. All they need now is a young manager to help them develop. Oh yes - they had one of them and decided to get rid of him.

h'eagle City of London 16 May 23 6.35am
What has the manager’s age got to do with what Eze and Olise need? Both have pretty much shown with their performances that Roy manages them better than Viera. Edited by h'eagle (18 May 2023 6.56pm)

h'eagle

City of London 16 May 23 6.35am

What has the manager’s age got to do with what Eze and Olise need? Both have pretty much shown with their performances that Roy manages them better than Viera.

Edited by h'eagle (18 May 2023 6.56pm)

becky over the moon 16 May 23 6.51am
Originally posted by andyachtie Yet again Garth Crooks has a dig at Crystal Palace!!!! Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace): I saw the contact made by Joachim Andersen on Jefferson Lerma in Crystal Palace's 2-0 win over Bournemouth and could not believe no action was taken. It was made with a closed fist and landed square on Jefferson's nose and broke it. If it had been a middleweight boxing contest it would have scored three on the points card, and Jefferson would have been entitled to a count. In fact the player had to take one. I've seen some incompetence since the introduction of VAR but this takes some beating. While most of us were wondering how on earth the incident could have been judged to be anything other than a punch, the video assistant referee thought otherwise. Meanwhile Eberechi Eze was subjecting Bournemouth and thrilling the Crystal Palace crowd with his own brand of knockout blows. This kid looks better every time I see him. His second goal was a peach equalled only by the pass provided for him by Michael Olise. The way these two super youngsters are emerging at Palace is impressive. All they need now is a young manager to help them develop. Oh yes - they had one of them and decided to get rid of him. The only broken nose in a long history of broken noses that never bled even one drop of claret... A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

becky

over the moon 16 May 23 6.51am

Originally posted by andyachtie

Yet again Garth Crooks has a dig at Crystal Palace!!!!

Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace): I saw the contact made by Joachim Andersen on Jefferson Lerma in Crystal Palace's 2-0 win over Bournemouth and could not believe no action was taken. It was made with a closed fist and landed square on Jefferson's nose and broke it. If it had been a middleweight boxing contest it would have scored three on the points card, and Jefferson would have been entitled to a count. In fact the player had to take one. I've seen some incompetence since the introduction of VAR but this takes some beating. While most of us were wondering how on earth the incident could have been judged to be anything other than a punch, the video assistant referee thought otherwise. Meanwhile Eberechi Eze was subjecting Bournemouth and thrilling the Crystal Palace crowd with his own brand of knockout blows. This kid looks better every time I see him. His second goal was a peach equalled only by the pass provided for him by Michael Olise. The way these two super youngsters are emerging at Palace is impressive. All they need now is a young manager to help them develop. Oh yes - they had one of them and decided to get rid of him.

The only broken nose in a long history of broken noses that never bled even one drop of claret...

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

YT Oxford 16 May 23 7.08am
Originally posted by andyachtie Yet again Garth Crooks has a dig at Crystal Palace!!!! Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace): I saw the contact made by Joachim Andersen on Jefferson Lerma in Crystal Palace's 2-0 win over Bournemouth and could not believe no action was taken. It was made with a closed fist and landed square on Jefferson's nose and broke it. If it had been a middleweight boxing contest it would have scored three on the points card, and Jefferson would have been entitled to a count. In fact the player had to take one. I've seen some incompetence since the introduction of VAR but this takes some beating. While most of us were wondering how on earth the incident could have been judged to be anything other than a punch, the video assistant referee thought otherwise. Meanwhile Eberechi Eze was subjecting Bournemouth and thrilling the Crystal Palace crowd with his own brand of knockout blows. This kid looks better every time I see him. His second goal was a peach equalled only by the pass provided for him by Michael Olise. The way these two super youngsters are emerging at Palace is impressive. All they need now is a young manager to help them develop. Oh yes - they had one of them and decided to get rid of him. So suddenly Crooks and whoever "most of us" is supposed to mean, were sitting watching a live transmission of little old Palace playing a virtually meaningless end-of-season fixture, when some of his and the BBC's more favoured teams were playing at the same time. What am absolute bulls*ter and and absolute w*er. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 16 May 23 7.08am

Originally posted by andyachtie

Yet again Garth Crooks has a dig at Crystal Palace!!!!

Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace): I saw the contact made by Joachim Andersen on Jefferson Lerma in Crystal Palace's 2-0 win over Bournemouth and could not believe no action was taken. It was made with a closed fist and landed square on Jefferson's nose and broke it. If it had been a middleweight boxing contest it would have scored three on the points card, and Jefferson would have been entitled to a count. In fact the player had to take one. I've seen some incompetence since the introduction of VAR but this takes some beating. While most of us were wondering how on earth the incident could have been judged to be anything other than a punch, the video assistant referee thought otherwise. Meanwhile Eberechi Eze was subjecting Bournemouth and thrilling the Crystal Palace crowd with his own brand of knockout blows. This kid looks better every time I see him. His second goal was a peach equalled only by the pass provided for him by Michael Olise. The way these two super youngsters are emerging at Palace is impressive. All they need now is a young manager to help them develop. Oh yes - they had one of them and decided to get rid of him.

So suddenly Crooks and whoever "most of us" is supposed to mean, were sitting watching a live transmission of little old Palace playing a virtually meaningless end-of-season fixture, when some of his and the BBC's more favoured teams were playing at the same time. What am absolute bulls***ter and and absolute w***er.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

YT Oxford 16 May 23 7.16am
[quote=h'eagle;3796857] What has the manager’s age got to do with what Eze and Olise need? Both have pretty much shown with their performances that Roy manages them better than Viera. Yes it's interesting to see that a black man is quite happy to resort to ageism, isn't it? Edited by YT (16 May 2023 8.05am) Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 16 May 23 7.16am

[quote=h'eagle;3796857]

What has the manager’s age got to do with what Eze and Olise need? Both have pretty much shown with their performances that Roy manages them better than Viera.

Yes it's interesting to see that a black man is quite happy to resort to ageism, isn't it?

Edited by YT (16 May 2023 8.05am)

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

cROYdonrogers Leamington Spa 16 May 23 7.21am
And the YOUNG manager we got rid of was? If he means PV, well his method of development was to bench Eze. I think Olise's defending has improved of recent (since Roy) and to a lesser extent Eze's

cROYdonrogers

Leamington Spa 16 May 23 7.21am

And the YOUNG manager we got rid of was?
If he means PV, well his method of development was to bench Eze.
I think Olise's defending has improved of recent (since Roy) and to a lesser extent Eze's

southnorwoodhill 16 May 23 7.29am
Garth Crooks is a bitter muppet who needs to understand that good players don't always make good managers and leave it at that.

southnorwoodhill

16 May 23 7.29am

Garth Crooks is a bitter muppet who needs to understand that good players don't always make good managers and leave it at that.

Spiderman Horsham 16 May 23 7.37am
Clueless and Classless. He can’t get over the fact that Palace had the audacity to sack the only black manager in the PL. The manager who was not playing Eze and when he did it was out of position. If you wanted to be cynical, perhaps GC is being a tad racist in his comments: A white defender breaks black player’s nose. No mention of said black players awful tackle on Hughes (White). Caicedo (Black) was described as old school for his disgraceful tackle on Martinelli abd was basically praised for it. He should be reminded that, as a club, we must have the highest % of young black player in the league. These pundits need to come to terms with the fact PV was not up to the job. I note GC hasn’t recommended PV for the Spurs job Edited by Spiderman (16 May 2023 7.39am)

Spiderman

Horsham 16 May 23 7.37am

Clueless and Classless. He can’t get over the fact that Palace had the audacity to sack the only black manager in the PL. The manager who was not playing Eze and when he did it was out of position.
If you wanted to be cynical, perhaps GC is being a tad racist in his comments:
A white defender breaks black player’s nose. No mention of said black players awful tackle on Hughes (White).
Caicedo (Black) was described as old school for his disgraceful tackle on Martinelli abd was basically praised for it.
He should be reminded that, as a club, we must have the highest % of young black player in the league.
These pundits need to come to terms with the fact PV was not up to the job. I note GC hasn’t recommended PV for the Spurs job

Edited by Spiderman (16 May 2023 7.39am)

Spiderman Horsham 16 May 23 7.38am
Originally posted by becky The only broken nose in a long history of broken noses that never bled even one drop of claret... Indeed

Spiderman

Horsham 16 May 23 7.38am

Originally posted by becky

The only broken nose in a long history of broken noses that never bled even one drop of claret...

Indeed

esox lucius Deal 16 May 23 8.02am
I really do think this guy is loosing the plot, his ramblings have nothing to do with picking the 11 best player’s performances from the weekend’s round of matches. Very strange behaviour indeed.

esox lucius

Deal 16 May 23 8.02am

I really do think this guy is loosing the plot, his ramblings have nothing to do with picking the 11 best player’s performances from the weekend’s round of matches. Very strange behaviour indeed.

eagleheath Burgess Hill 16 May 23 8.10am
Oxygen thief - best ignored

eagleheath

Burgess Hill 16 May 23 8.10am

Oxygen thief - best ignored

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 16 May 23 8.12am
Originally posted by becky The only broken nose in a long history of broken noses that never bled even one drop of claret... Indeed Becky. It was more a flailing arm than anything. I don’t think anybody who has competed in, or even actually watched a pugilist contest would for one second qualify it as a ‘punch’. I’ve seen far more concerning elbows which may very well, and often do, fall in the category of ‘instinctive but without intent’. I don’t see any evidence of Joachim trying to punch Lerma, it was an unusual result of much and often seen shirt pulling and jostling. Im quite confident of that. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 16 May 23 8.12am

Originally posted by becky

The only broken nose in a long history of broken noses that never bled even one drop of claret...

Indeed Becky.

It was more a flailing arm than anything. I don’t think anybody who has competed in, or even actually watched a pugilist contest would for one second qualify it as a ‘punch’. I’ve seen far more concerning elbows which may very well, and often do, fall in the category of ‘instinctive but without intent’. I don’t see any evidence of Joachim trying to punch Lerma, it was an unusual result of much and often seen shirt pulling and jostling. Im quite confident of that.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

cannongilbert 16 May 23 8.29am
Crooks is supposed to be picking his best eleven from the last matchday. His comments justifying his selection of Eze were 60% about the Andersen incident-I havent seen too many comments about Haaland kicking Andersen on the head which was the definition of the red card earlier this season,oh I forgot, here the culprit is a Man.City player-then a few words about Eze and most of the remaining article about the young manager who was sacked. Let me just remind him how Eze was during the last Vieira games(when he played!!!) and how he is under Roy. Everytime we see him he has a broad smile on his face. That says something.

cannongilbert

16 May 23 8.29am

Crooks is supposed to be picking his best eleven from the last matchday. His comments justifying his selection of Eze were 60% about the Andersen incident-I havent seen too many comments about Haaland kicking Andersen on the head which was the definition of the red card earlier this season,oh I forgot, here the culprit is a Man.City player-then a few words about Eze and most of the remaining article about the young manager who was sacked. Let me just remind him how Eze was during the last Vieira games(when he played!!!) and how he is under Roy. Everytime we see him he has a broad smile on his face. That says something.

The Dolphin 16 May 23 9.04am
The man is a sad little clown. He says very little about the player he has picked but decides to savage the club. Anderson deserved a red and more to be honest but for whatever reason he didn't but what has that got to do with Eze? We sacked Viera for good reason - a shame but that's premier league life - it is no business of this excuse for a "journalist". I hope he gets a lifetime ban from Palace.

The Dolphin

16 May 23 9.04am

The man is a sad little clown.
He says very little about the player he has picked but decides to savage the club.
Anderson deserved a red and more to be honest but for whatever reason he didn't but what has that got to do with Eze?
We sacked Viera for good reason - a shame but that's premier league life - it is no business of this excuse for a "journalist".
I hope he gets a lifetime ban from Palace.

southnorwoodhill 16 May 23 9.05am
Originally posted by Spiderman Clueless and Classless. He can’t get over the fact that Palace had the audacity to sack the only black manager in the PL. The manager who was not playing Eze and when he did it was out of position. If you wanted to be cynical, perhaps GC is being a tad racist in his comments: A white defender breaks black player’s nose. No mention of said black players awful tackle on Hughes (White). Caicedo (Black) was described as old school for his disgraceful tackle on Martinelli abd was basically praised for it. He should be reminded that, as a club, we must have the highest % of young black player in the league. These pundits need to come to terms with the fact PV was not up to the job. I note GC hasn’t recommended PV for the Spurs job Edited by Spiderman (16 May 2023 7.39am) Yeah, this speaks for itself. I'd add that the amount of black pundits on TV is also up there percentage wise, some really good ex-pros who for whatever reason didn't go into management.

southnorwoodhill

16 May 23 9.05am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Clueless and Classless. He can’t get over the fact that Palace had the audacity to sack the only black manager in the PL. The manager who was not playing Eze and when he did it was out of position.
If you wanted to be cynical, perhaps GC is being a tad racist in his comments:
A white defender breaks black player’s nose. No mention of said black players awful tackle on Hughes (White).
Caicedo (Black) was described as old school for his disgraceful tackle on Martinelli abd was basically praised for it.
He should be reminded that, as a club, we must have the highest % of young black player in the league.
These pundits need to come to terms with the fact PV was not up to the job. I note GC hasn’t recommended PV for the Spurs job

Edited by Spiderman (16 May 2023 7.39am)

Yeah, this speaks for itself. I'd add that the amount of black pundits on TV is also up there percentage wise, some really good ex-pros who for whatever reason didn't go into management.

Goalpost1 Worcester Park 16 May 23 9.10am
Originally posted by cannongilbert Crooks is supposed to be picking his best eleven from the last matchday. His comments justifying his selection of Eze were 60% about the Andersen incident-I havent seen too many comments about Haaland kicking Andersen on the head which was the definition of the red card earlier this season,oh I forgot, here the culprit is a Man.City player-then a few words about Eze and most of the remaining article about the young manager who was sacked. Let me just remind him how Eze was during the last Vieira games(when he played!!!) and how he is under Roy. Everytime we see him he has a broad smile on his face. That says something. Bang on the money. Although I did think Anderson should have gone and had it been the other way around then we'd be calling for a red card. Totally agree with you on Eze. Crooks' comment that he would have thrived under the young upcoming manager we sacked is total rubbish. He looks an absolutely different player under Hodgson compared to Viera, free scoring and scary for opposition players to play against. He just glides across the pitch and makes the game look easy. Next season he just needs to produce it more against the top half teams, mind you if he does that the big boys will come calling very soon.

Goalpost1

Worcester Park 16 May 23 9.10am

Originally posted by cannongilbert

Bang on the money. Although I did think Anderson should have gone and had it been the other way around then we'd be calling for a red card.

Totally agree with you on Eze. Crooks' comment that he would have thrived under the young upcoming manager we sacked is total rubbish. He looks an absolutely different player under Hodgson compared to Viera, free scoring and scary for opposition players to play against. He just glides across the pitch and makes the game look easy. Next season he just needs to produce it more against the top half teams, mind you if he does that the big boys will come calling very soon.

Putitout Oxford 16 May 23 9.25am
Originally posted by Spiderman Indeed The broken nose that broke the structure of the nose but didn’t break a blood vessel , and didn’t rate as a serious head injury. And didn’t cause more than a couple of minutes stoppage in Lermas, game or the game in general. There is little doubt Lermas nose did get a knock but quiet honestly Lerma, didn’t act or look as if there had been more than minimal contact .

Putitout

Oxford 16 May 23 9.25am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Indeed

The broken nose that broke the structure of the nose but didn’t break a blood vessel , and didn’t rate as a serious head injury. And didn’t cause more than a couple of minutes stoppage in Lermas, game or the game in general.
There is little doubt Lermas nose did get a knock but quiet honestly Lerma, didn’t act or look as if there had been more than minimal contact .

YT Oxford 16 May 23 9.43am
I've just submitted a complaint to the BBC about Crooks' closing comment, saying that - particularly as an older member of society - I'm offended by such blatant ageism from a BBC correspondent. It's very easy to do, should you feel inclined: [Link] Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 16 May 23 9.43am

I've just submitted a complaint to the BBC about Crooks' closing comment, saying that - particularly as an older member of society - I'm offended by such blatant ageism from a BBC correspondent.

It's very easy to do, should you feel inclined:

[Link]

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Pete53 Hassocks 16 May 23 9.45am
[quote=h'eagle;3796857] What has the manager’s age got to do with what Eze and Olise need? Both have pretty much shown with their performances that Roy manages them better than Viera. Exactly. PV rarely ever started them together, and whoever started was invariably substituted.

Pete53

Hassocks 16 May 23 9.45am

[quote=h'eagle;3796857]

What has the manager’s age got to do with what Eze and Olise need? Both have pretty much shown with their performances that Roy manages them better than Viera.

Exactly. PV rarely ever started them together, and whoever started was invariably substituted.

Mapletree Croydon 16 May 23 10.28am
[quote=h'eagle;3796857] What has the manager’s age got to do with what Eze and Olise need? Both have pretty much shown with their performances that Roy manages them better than Viera. Funny how in industry everyone wants a wise old head to guide them. But in football it has to be someone without much experience. Good job we don’t do that with apprentices in every other walk of life. Would he say the same for a trainee doctor?

Mapletree

Croydon 16 May 23 10.28am

[quote=h'eagle;3796857]

What has the manager’s age got to do with what Eze and Olise need? Both have pretty much shown with their performances that Roy manages them better than Viera.

Funny how in industry everyone wants a wise old head to guide them. But in football it has to be someone without much experience. Good job we don’t do that with apprentices in every other walk of life. Would he say the same for a trainee doctor?

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