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BelfastEagle Flag 05 Feb 24 8.35pm

Another one back from a long injury tonight immediately pulls hamstring in first game.

What on earth is going on here ? Some people are clearly dangerously incompetent……..it really is beyond belief that we are allowing this to continue to happen. It’s a joke. My postman could do a better job and he knows nothing about it.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 05 Feb 24 8.43pm

Originally posted by BelfastEagle

Another one back from a long injury tonight immediately pulls hamstring in first game.

What on earth is going on here ? Some people are clearly dangerously incompetent……..it really is beyond belief that we are allowing this to continue to happen. It’s a joke. My postman could do a better job and he knows nothing about it.

Maybe it’s the wonderful new surfaces at our training ground. Someone somewhere will know the reasoning behind our constant run of hamstring injuries. It’s normally to do with warming up or warming down or the wrong type of training. We do need to find a sports science team that can identify the problems though as this can’t go on.

 

Plaistow Eagle Flag 05 Feb 24 8.53pm

Originally posted by BelfastEagle

Another one back from a long injury tonight immediately pulls hamstring in first game.

What on earth is going on here ? Some people are clearly dangerously incompetent……..it really is beyond belief that we are allowing this to continue to happen. It’s a joke. My postman could do a better job and he knows nothing about it.

Rak Saki - I agree there’s definitely something wrong - I’ve never known this amount of hamstring injuries - it’s not just us it’s across the board in the Prem..!!

Just what is it..??

Is it the boots, the ball the amount of training - I just don’t know..!!

I had a theory - in the Prem it was the amount of extra time - average c.15 mins a game - that’s an extra c.6 games over a 38 game season.

Then VAR - all the stop start..!!

But this happened in a u21 game - so none of the above - so blows my theory..!!

It’s got to be down to training methods..!!

Whatever way you look at it something ain’t right..!!

COYP

 

BelfastEagle Flag 05 Feb 24 9.04pm

It’s not just the hamstring injuries I agree that’s a problem across the board. It’s the consistency of players getting immediately injured as soon as they return. Clearly who ever is assessing them is utterly clueless….ok one maybe understandable
…two now that’s concerning….more than 3….thats just criminal negligence

 

Mr Palaceman Flag 05 Feb 24 9.10pm

It's not just us. I saw a report that Hamstring injuries in football are up dramatically.

And this was on the beeb site...

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Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Feb 24 9.18pm


Could it be anything to do with players growing up playing cage football not getting used to running distances?

 

YoDougie Flag London 05 Feb 24 9.39pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Could it be anything to do with players growing up playing cage football not getting used to running distances?

No. Firstly, not all of our players grew up playing cage football, and for the few that did, 1. didn't play it exclusively and 2. haven't played it consistently for years.

It's 100% linked to our training & recovery schedules and medical/physios advice.

Rak-Sakyi is another example of a player being told is ready but clearly is not and gets injured immediately - that's now Eze, Olise and RS in the space of a week.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Feb 24 9.44pm

Originally posted by YoDougie

No. Firstly, not all of our players grew up playing cage football, and for the few that did, 1. didn't play it exclusively and 2. haven't played it consistently for years.

It's 100% linked to our training & recovery schedules and medical/physios advice.

Rak-Sakyi is another example of a player being told is ready but clearly is not and gets injured immediately - that's now Eze, Olise and RS in the space of a week.

Fair enough. Just a suggestion.

 

PatrickA Flag London 05 Feb 24 9.47pm

The Mail is reporting tonight that Olise is out for a minimum of 2 months.
With JRS also out injured I guess Hodgson is going to have use Franca.
Schlupp will remain first choice, but frequently is substituted or occasionally gets injured.
Hodgson may also need to find a way of playing to accomodate both Mateta and Edouard.A case of needs must.
Neither Franca nor Ahamada are natural wingers and it will be a shame if they are shoehorned into roles that they are not cut out for.

 

YoDougie Flag London 05 Feb 24 9.52pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Fair enough. Just a suggestion.

Sorry for the blunt tone. Just very very frustrated with our situation at the moment and the JRS injury really focussed for me on how these injuries are not just bad luck, they're the way we're managing our injured players and how we are returning them back into the playing fold.

3 players who recently returning from injury, are now injured again in the space of a week. I find it hard to believe this is a coincidence. It's terrible player-care.

Edited by YoDougie (05 Feb 2024 9.53pm)

 

Jacey Flag 05 Feb 24 9.55pm

If it is true that Olise is out for a minimum of two months,then probably down to that useless old man's very poor decision making,bringing Michael on when we had irretrievably lost the game and probably costing our place in the Premier League without this irreplaceable talent.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Feb 24 10.08pm

Originally posted by YoDougie

Sorry for the blunt tone. Just very very frustrated with our situation at the moment and the JRS injury really focussed for me on how these injuries are not just bad luck, they're the way we're managing our injured players and how we are returning them back into the playing fold.

3 players who recently returning from injury, are now injured again in the space of a week. I find it hard to believe this is a coincidence. It's terrible player-care.

Edited by YoDougie (05 Feb 2024 9.53pm)

Thanks, but no apology needed. We're all frustrated at what's going on.

 

kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 05 Feb 24 10.19pm

So maybe we have seen the last of Michael Olise is a Palace shirt.
What a way to bow out. He probably can’t wait to get fit and sign for a new club, if he passes the medical.

 


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Houston Eagle Flag Houston 05 Feb 24 10.22pm

Just read an article on substitution and certainly believe the managers stance has somewhat contributed to the hamstring mess! We have made the 4th least changes this season and rank last on the average time for first substitution to take place and are only team to have not made a tactical half time change!

I can feel the disharmony all the way here in Texas!

 

dreamwaverider Flag London 05 Feb 24 10.48pm

It's not just us. 40% of Premier injuries are now HSI's.
Growing problem in top level soccer.

 

dreamwaverider Flag London 05 Feb 24 10.50pm

Originally posted by Houston Eagle

Just read an article on substitution and certainly believe the managers stance has somewhat contributed to the hamstring mess! We have made the 4th least changes this season and rank last on the average time for first substitution to take place and are only team to have not made a tactical half time change!

I can feel the disharmony all the way here in Texas!

Considering fatigue plays a large part to injury cause, you could well have a point.

 

Bangerparr Flag Perth 05 Feb 24 11.14pm

Originally posted by Houston Eagle

Just read an article on substitution and certainly believe the managers stance has somewhat contributed to the hamstring mess! We have made the 4th least changes this season and rank last on the average time for first substitution to take place and are only team to have not made a tactical half time change!

I can feel the disharmony all the way here in Texas!

We have had a half-time tactical change now with Olise on the weekend, and that went well didn't it!

As for hamstrings, they're notoriously bad for reoccurring and having a very thin bench to choose from during games means that our on-field team are a lot more fatigued than other clubs.
I wonder if the VAR stoppages are more of a problem rather than the added time they, (partly), create. Maybe teams need to go into a "keep warm" routine if there is a VAR check.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Feb 24 11.19pm

Originally posted by Bangerparr

We have had a half-time tactical change now with Olise on the weekend, and that went well didn't it!

As for hamstrings, they're notoriously bad for reoccurring and having a very thin bench to choose from during games means that our on-field team are a lot more fatigued than other clubs.
I wonder if the VAR stoppages are more of a problem rather than the added time they, (partly), create. Maybe teams need to go into a "keep warm" routine if there is a VAR check.

Or find out how NFL players cope when the game goes on for ages and they go on and off the pitch several times, often in freezing conditions.

 

radicalsteve Flag ottawa 05 Feb 24 11.45pm

our situation is compounded by having such a shallow bench - just a reality of our financial structure. Nevertheless I thought this was an interesting observation:

"It cost Brighton only £77 million to assemble the starting XI that humbled Crystal Palace 4-1 on Saturday. Tony Bloom, the Brighton owner, and Paul Barber, the chief executive, are simply so much smarter and more experienced than ..... "(was a reference to Chelsea), but still, how much money have we spent in the summer and January and what has been the impact on results?

 

Hutchyeagle Flag Hove 06 Feb 24 5.40am

Ebiowei is fit …..oh wait he’s not here !
I actually think a more progressive manager would have got the best out of him
He is a box of tricks, if given a run and belief could be a star

 

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