I couldnt see another thread on this -

The new proposal - Blue Card / 10 minutes Sin Bin for cynical fouls & dissent - in principle I like the idea as for sure I believe that there should be another level of punishment between yellow & red.

What constitutes a cynical foul ? A professional / taking one for the team in the middle of the park to prevent a breakaway counter attack or the kind of rotational / stop the oppositions most creative outlet type of fouling that Wilf used to endure ? (any ideas)

For sure I would like to see some of the opposition players getting sin binned, not sure how I would feel about seeing us going down to 10 / 9 / 8 players & having no midfield -

Would some clubs just use the sin bin procedure as a weapon to target those players easily wound up to get them to retaliate ?

Would be interested to hear others thoughts -

I agree with you.

I think it'll bring a couple more goals and definitely more player discipline into the game.

However, the refs definitely need to come to an agreement upon what kind of infringements warrant what kind of card.

In general I think more cards being issued for yellow....for example I think shirt pulling and stuff like that would result in more goals and as football is about entertainment I think anything that can result in fairer play is a positive.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Feb 2024 8.07am)

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Just you wait, I'm gonna get Joey Barton to sign up!

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i would broadly support the idea of a ten minute suspension.

the problem with yellow/red is that the latter is so draconian that many referees are reluctant to 'ruin the game' with one red card.

Also we have the phenomenon that the referee 'lost the plot' if he starts dishing out red cards to all and sundry.

we saw this in a World Cup Final.....spain v netherlands.....the latter were a kung fu team. And Howard Webb was clearly instructed to keep 22 men on the pitch. Netherlands were like a cross between the UFC and Brick Top. Webb finally capitulated in the extra 30 minutes, after injury time. And the rest, is history.

Players like Sergio Ramos have made a career out of fouling & hacking. Knowing that the many red cards they get are often not big enough to overcome the advantage of all the fouling. Ramos is a violent thug who has climbed to the top of football silverware. A regular ten minute suspension would probably nip it in the bud.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (10 Feb 2024 11.18am)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Ramos managed to commit blatant fouls in a snidey way. Then make out he'd been crippled if anyone tackled him.

I'm watching the rugby and a French player has been sent to the bin for 10 minutes for a dodgy tackle. No complaints and France continued to play with gusto. I've read the comments of Prem managers on the subject and, mostly, they think a player sent off will result in teams wasting time till they come back.

I've been very keen to see football follow suit with rugby, mainly to act as a deterrent to stop players harranguing the ref, pushing for sendings off and feigning injury etc. I don't subscribe to the 'ruining the beautiful game' argument. VAR does that in spades.

On the whole I support any move to cut out some of the sneaky tactics that are used these days. If it is blue cards and sin bins - bring it on.

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Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Why do people assume that VAR would be used for all decisions? For example it could be restricted to red card or goal line decisions for example.

I would have thought that the whole reason it's being tested and not directly implemented is to directly ascertain questions on how positive or negative the change would be.

I see no downside to testing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Feb 2024 8.01pm)

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A bit like government we need less of it than more. And at risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist I have an inkling that with games sometimes going as long as 100 minutes, don't be surprised If there isn't albeit secretly & covertly some talk of doing away with the traditional 45 minute halves & introducing four 25 minute quarters to placate big Sponsors

Pro USA & Israel

The Americans, I believe, have never understood how we can go that long at a game without food & drink.....

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