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Elpis In a pub 21 May 24 8.49am
Provisional squad named today .Will Southgate who isnt inspiring anyone stay with his tried and trusted failures of past competitions or will there be a few surprise inclusions ? Im expecting Guehi ,Eze and maybe given the problems at left back Mitchell to be included in the 30 for the Freindlies v Herza Bosnia whatever they are called and Iceland . Henderson has an outside chance but bar injuries don't expect him to make the final cut Other surprises could include RLC and Tomori if they are not full of spaghetti and dare I mention young Wharton who read the much talked about and sure to be included Mainoo a new future just a couple of weeks ago . Come on Gareth , dump the losers and pick the form guys . We can win this .

Elpis

In a pub 21 May 24 8.49am

Provisional squad named today .Will Southgate who isnt inspiring anyone stay with his tried and trusted failures of past competitions or will there be a few surprise inclusions ?

Im expecting Guehi ,Eze and maybe given the problems at left back Mitchell to be included in the 30 for the Freindlies v Herza Bosnia whatever they are called and Iceland .

Henderson has an outside chance but bar injuries don't expect him to make the final cut

Other surprises could include RLC and Tomori if they are not full of spaghetti and dare I mention young Wharton who read the much talked about and sure to be included Mainoo a new future just a couple of weeks ago .

Come on Gareth , dump the losers and pick the form guys . We can win this .

KLEAGLE2 Shirley 21 May 24 3.26pm
Obviously biased but I'm very much Liking the squad picked by Southgate, particularly leaving out previous shoo-ins Henderson, Rashford and Phillips. Going with inform players like Wharton, Palmer and Gordon is the way to go. Hearing Southgate speak after the provisional squad announcement, he talks a lot of sense and knows what England need to win but unfortunately his gameplay management/personality will again see England fall short. Really hope I'm wrong though.

KLEAGLE2

Shirley 21 May 24 3.26pm

Obviously biased but I'm very much Liking the squad picked by Southgate, particularly leaving out previous shoo-ins Henderson, Rashford and Phillips.
Going with inform players like Wharton, Palmer and Gordon is the way to go.
Hearing Southgate speak after the provisional squad announcement, he talks a lot of sense and knows what England need to win but unfortunately his gameplay management/personality will again see England fall short. Really hope I'm wrong though.

PalazioVecchio south pole 21 May 24 3.43pm
b..sta.rds robbing Wharton from us. they had better not break him. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 21 May 24 3.43pm

b..sta.rds robbing Wharton from us.

they had better not break him.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Elpis In a pub 21 May 24 9.04pm
Originally posted by KLEAGLE2 Obviously biased but I'm very much Liking the squad picked by Southgate, particularly leaving out previous shoo-ins Henderson, Rashford and Phillips. Going with inform players like Wharton, Palmer and Gordon is the way to go. Hearing Southgate speak after the provisional squad announcement, he talks a lot of sense and knows what England need to win but unfortunately his gameplay management/personality will again see England fall short. Really hope I'm wrong though. Yep Southgate has finally got rid of the dross . Hope this means a more adventurous game plan with more players from clubs that press high up the pitch than ones that sit back . Good squad that hasn't really missed anyone out that deserves to be in it .

Elpis

In a pub 21 May 24 9.04pm

Originally posted by KLEAGLE2

Yep Southgate has finally got rid of the dross . Hope this means a more adventurous game plan with more players from clubs that press high up the pitch than ones that sit back . Good squad that hasn't really missed anyone out that deserves to be in it .

PalazioVecchio south pole 22 May 24 7.55pm
the Euro's are often more entertaining than the World Cup.....no mediocre teams participating. Edited by PalazioVecchio (22 May 2024 7.59pm) Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 22 May 24 7.55pm

the Euro's are often more entertaining than the World Cup.....no mediocre teams participating.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (22 May 2024 7.59pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

dreamwaverider London 22 May 24 10.19pm
Originally posted by Elpis Yep Southgate has finally got rid of the dross . Hope this means a more adventurous game plan with more players from clubs that press high up the pitch than ones that sit back . Good squad that hasn't really missed anyone out that deserves to be in it . Has Southgate got anyone in his coaching staff who knows the fast game like we are learning? The players are available to play it. If England throw off the shackles, just like Palace did we could really fly. Maybe Gareth really will chase the dragon and go for it. Edited by dreamwaverider (22 May 2024 10.20pm)

dreamwaverider

London 22 May 24 10.19pm

Originally posted by Elpis

Has Southgate got anyone in his coaching staff who knows the fast game like we are learning? The players are available to play it. If England throw off the shackles, just like Palace did we could really fly.
Maybe Gareth really will chase the dragon and go for it.

Edited by dreamwaverider (22 May 2024 10.20pm)

sprites Auckland 22 May 24 10.40pm
Originally posted by KLEAGLE2 Obviously biased but I'm very much Liking the squad picked by Southgate, particularly leaving out previous shoo-ins Henderson, Rashford and Phillips. Going with inform players like Wharton, Palmer and Gordon is the way to go. Hearing Southgate speak after the provisional squad announcement, he talks a lot of sense and knows what England need to win but unfortunately his gameplay management/personality will again see England fall short. Really hope I'm wrong though. Mostly agree...although even Rashford at 50% is better than the rat, Gordon. Should be nowhere near the team.

sprites

Auckland 22 May 24 10.40pm

Originally posted by KLEAGLE2

Mostly agree...although even Rashford at 50% is better than the rat, Gordon. Should be nowhere near the team.

Elpis In a pub 23 May 24 12.40pm
Originally posted by dreamwaverider Has Southgate got anyone in his coaching staff who knows the fast game like we are learning? The players are available to play it. If England throw off the shackles, just like Palace did we could really fly. Maybe Gareth really will chase the dragon and go for it. Edited by dreamwaverider (22 May 2024 10.20pm) No is the short answer to that . His coaches are defensive plodders hope for a goal merchants . His no 1 Steve Holland previously worked under the likes of Mourinho ,Benetez and Conte at Chelsea . Paul Nevin ,full time at West Ham and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank sacked by Burton Albion make up his team . Looking at that lot its hardly surprising the football is a bit drab but we live in hope .

Elpis

In a pub 23 May 24 12.40pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Edited by dreamwaverider (22 May 2024 10.20pm)

No is the short answer to that .

His coaches are defensive plodders hope for a goal merchants . His no 1 Steve Holland previously worked under the likes of Mourinho ,Benetez and Conte at Chelsea .
Paul Nevin ,full time at West Ham and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank sacked by Burton Albion make up his team .
Looking at that lot its hardly surprising the football is a bit drab but we live in hope .

CrazyBadger Ware 23 May 24 2.05pm
However promising our squad looks (before the cut) We've still got a manager who has proven to be useless at game management and use of subs. It'll be the same as it ever Was; Plan A will be good - and we'll look good early on, then will lose to the first side we meet in the knockout stages with anything about them. Probably Germany (again) this time round. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

CrazyBadger

Ware 23 May 24 2.05pm

However promising our squad looks (before the cut) We've still got a manager who has proven to be useless at game management and use of subs.
It'll be the same as it ever Was; Plan A will be good - and we'll look good early on, then will lose to the first side we meet in the knockout stages with anything about them. Probably Germany (again) this time round.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

Badger11 Beckenham 10 Jun 24 9.13pm
Apparently when England lose you are not allowed to show an image of a black player. [Link] And if we win does the same thing apply? One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 10 Jun 24 9.13pm

Apparently when England lose you are not allowed to show an image of a black player.

[Link]

And if we win does the same thing apply?

One more point

Elpis In a pub 11 Jun 24 8.57am
Originally posted by Badger11 Apparently when England lose you are not allowed to show an image of a black player. [Link] And if we win does the same thing apply? What is wrong with these people ? Nobody and I guarantee nobody sees that picture as anything other than the manager of England and an England player . Those that see it as an attack on a player because he is black need to give their heads a wobble , honestly Im a bit sick of it and sadly Ian Wright is one of the worst culprits ,maybe its what working for the BBC does to people .

Elpis

In a pub 11 Jun 24 8.57am

Originally posted by Badger11

Apparently when England lose you are not allowed to show an image of a black player.

[Link]

And if we win does the same thing apply?

What is wrong with these people ? Nobody and I guarantee nobody sees that picture as anything other than the manager of England and an England player .
Those that see it as an attack on a player because he is black need to give their heads a wobble , honestly Im a bit sick of it and sadly Ian Wright is one of the worst culprits ,maybe its what working for the BBC does to people .

kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 11 Jun 24 8.44pm
Been watching the MOTD BBC classic matches on I-player and plenty of appearances from our very own Wayne Hennessy. A mixed bag of performances to be fair to him. I expect to see Adam Wharton make his name this tournament. Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

kevlee

born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 11 Jun 24 8.44pm

Been watching the MOTD BBC classic matches on I-player and plenty of appearances from our very own Wayne Hennessy. A mixed bag of performances to be fair to him.
I expect to see Adam Wharton make his name this tournament.

Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

YT Oxford 11 Jun 24 9.59pm
Originally posted by kevlee Been watching the MOTD BBC classic matches on I-player and plenty of appearances from our very own Wayne Hennessy. A mixed bag of performances to be fair to him. I expect to see Adam Wharton make his name this tournament. I think you'll find he's made his name already, given his meteoric rise from Championship to the full England squad and based on the evidence of all the newspaper articles that have been written about him and on the transfer speculation that surrounds him. Whether Southgate picks him for the England side, however, remains to be seen. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 11 Jun 24 9.59pm

Originally posted by kevlee

Been watching the MOTD BBC classic matches on I-player and plenty of appearances from our very own Wayne Hennessy. A mixed bag of performances to be fair to him.
I expect to see Adam Wharton make his name this tournament.

I think you'll find he's made his name already, given his meteoric rise from Championship to the full England squad and based on the evidence of all the newspaper articles that have been written about him and on the transfer speculation that surrounds him.

Whether Southgate picks him for the England side, however, remains to be seen.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Eaglehamster Storrington 12 Jun 24 6.26am
To get the best from the talent at his disposal, GS must change his game plan and tactics. I can’t see him doing so. I watch nearly all England games, and always ask myself why afterwards. Edited by Eaglehamster (12 Jun 2024 6.27am) I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

Eaglehamster

Storrington 12 Jun 24 6.26am

To get the best from the talent at his disposal, GS must change his game plan and tactics. I can’t see him doing so.
I watch nearly all England games, and always ask myself why afterwards.

Edited by Eaglehamster (12 Jun 2024 6.27am)

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 12 Jun 24 9.15am
Originally posted by Eaglehamster To get the best from the talent at his disposal, GS must change his game plan and tactics. I can’t see him doing so. I watch nearly all England games, and always ask myself why afterwards. Edited by Eaglehamster (12 Jun 2024 6.27am) I’ve been asking myself the same question since Don Revie was manager

monkey

Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 12 Jun 24 9.15am

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

To get the best from the talent at his disposal, GS must change his game plan and tactics. I can’t see him doing so.
I watch nearly all England games, and always ask myself why afterwards.

Edited by Eaglehamster (12 Jun 2024 6.27am)

I’ve been asking myself the same question since Don Revie was manager

ex hibitionist Hastings 12 Jun 24 2.02pm
Southgate makes bold calls and tends to get it right, it's just his game management comes up short against top coaches. I don't feel confident, Foden and Saka are very skillful but still young and top defences could shut them out, our defence is suspect and we don't have a settled plan for midfield, I'd prefer Bellingham to play deeper and a flair player at number 10 - that won't happen, I'm hoping Trent plays alongside Rice in midfield - Rice, Gallagher and Bellingham is too stodgy for me. I can see Serbia giving us a scare and a 1-1 draw.

ex hibitionist

Hastings 12 Jun 24 2.02pm

Southgate makes bold calls and tends to get it right, it's just his game management comes up short against top coaches. I don't feel confident, Foden and Saka are very skillful but still young and top defences could shut them out, our defence is suspect and we don't have a settled plan for midfield, I'd prefer Bellingham to play deeper and a flair player at number 10 - that won't happen, I'm hoping Trent plays alongside Rice in midfield - Rice, Gallagher and Bellingham is too stodgy for me. I can see Serbia giving us a scare and a 1-1 draw.

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Jun 24 3.30pm
Originally posted by ex hibitionist Southgate makes bold calls and tends to get it right, it's just his game management comes up short against top coaches. I don't feel confident, Foden and Saka are very skillful but still young and top defences could shut them out, our defence is suspect and we don't have a settled plan for midfield, I'd prefer Bellingham to play deeper and a flair player at number 10 - that won't happen, I'm hoping Trent plays alongside Rice in midfield - Rice, Gallagher and Bellingham is too stodgy for me. I can see Serbia giving us a scare and a 1-1 draw. It's not an easy group by any means. Not losing is usually the mantra of the first game - which could prove risky if Serbia decide to just go for it. It's a hard game. England should up the tempo in my opinion. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Jun 24 3.30pm

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

It's not an easy group by any means. Not losing is usually the mantra of the first game - which could prove risky if Serbia decide to just go for it. It's a hard game. England should up the tempo in my opinion.

Red and Blue Army!

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 12 Jun 24 5.04pm
Originally posted by monkey I’ve been asking myself the same question since Don Revie was manager He was the last English manager that wo the English top division, I believe still stands This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 12 Jun 24 5.04pm

Originally posted by monkey

I’ve been asking myself the same question since Don Revie was manager

He was the last English manager that wo the English top division, I believe still stands

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Teddy Eagle 12 Jun 24 5.12pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 He was the last English manager that wo the English top division, I believe still stands Howard Wilkinson?

Teddy Eagle

12 Jun 24 5.12pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

He was the last English manager that wo the English top division, I believe still stands

Howard Wilkinson?

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 12 Jun 24 5.40pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Howard Wilkinson? I stand corrected, thank you TE This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 12 Jun 24 5.40pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Howard Wilkinson?

I stand corrected, thank you TE

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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