Having turbines on land, for the most part they have to be as high as possible. the tops of hills or mountains, where wind speeds are averagely higher.
Othe places of high windspeed include along the coastline, where winds from the sea are unimpeded.
So people moan about turbines impact on the natural beauty of the countryside. And purchasing these locations is expensive, as is ground rent.
So having turbines at sea, is generally more cost-effective for supplying electricity to the coast. The potential is very large for off-shore turbines.

OK, I admit I've had a couple of vodkas, so maybe a tad mellow, but am I the only one who thinks Ed Milliband is bonkers to want our coastline covered with wind turbines?

I know we need to gradually reduce our use of carbon fuels, but, come on. These turbines, whether at sea or on land are a blot on the landscape. As a boy I holidayed with my parents in North Wales and have fond memories of times at Llandudno. On a recent trip there I was appalled to see the view from the pier littered with turbines. Horrible.

Surely I'm not the only one. Am I?

You hit the nail on the head. I don't mind them, as I'm going to (hopefully) be around a while. We have to move to renewable resources for the future of glaciers, some species, etc. It isn't all pretty (solar panels on roofs are ugly too), but the alternative is much more ugly.

And it's not about saving money on electricity.

OK, I admit I've had a couple of vodkas, so maybe a tad mellow, but am I the only one who thinks Ed Milliband is bonkers to want our coastline covered with wind turbines?

I know we need to gradually reduce our use of carbon fuels, but, come on. These turbines, whether at sea or on land are a blot on the landscape. As a boy I holidayed with my parents in North Wales and have fond memories of times at Llandudno. On a recent trip there I was appalled to see the view from the pier littered with turbines. Horrible.

Surely I'm not the only one. Am I?

If you like Ugly stuff, take a trip to Brighton and see how they have decimated the coastal views. So Daddyorc destroy countryside views and build all over everywhere.It will be the biggest mistake of the planet and Nature will destroy billions of the fast growing unsustainable human race.

I have made this point myself. When the earth gets the hump it will let us know. No amount of reduced this or over production of that will stop it. Yes cut down where you can which I know has happened and does happen but don’t forsake the Beauty and reason for being.

personally i quite like turbines and don't regard them as ugly at all. However, this nimby attitude just highlights the challenges ahead.

Let's look at some facts. First green energy is cheaper and cleaner than generating electricity, either by nuclear or burning gas to generate the leccie.

Onshore is clearly cheaper than offshore wind turbines as the cost of putting them up is considerably cheaper - there are very few floating turbines at sea, most are buried many metres under the seas bed.

However, with onshore there are limited places where they can best be erected as not all areas are windy so the fear of having them everywhere is just misguided.

I believe as with most things a compromise is the way forward. As an example France have made it a law that all carparks with a roof put solar on them. Seems sensible as these are flat roofs and ugly buildings. Why don't we do the same?
Maybe all new build house could have solar fitted on roofs as standard.
On motorways on the layby you could have either solar or turbines installed here. Loads of space and pretty ugly roads with no houses impacted.

Personally i think people (us) have to realise that things cannot continue as now and there will be an impact, possibly a cost in the short term. The nimby attitude clearly doesn't help, especially when many don't offer an alternative. When utility prices went sky high after the Ukraine invasion i suspect must people would have been happy if we didn't need to buy so much gas from other countries.

personally i quite like turbines and don't regard them as ugly at all. However, this nimby attitude just highlights the challenges ahead.

Let's look at some facts. First green energy is cheaper and cleaner than generating electricity, either by nuclear or burning gas to generate the leccie.

Onshore is clearly cheaper than offshore wind turbines as the cost of putting them up is considerably cheaper - there are very few floating turbines at sea, most are buried many metres under the seas bed.
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However, with onshore there are limited places where they can best be erected as not all areas are windy so the fear of having them everywhere is just misguided.

I believe as with most things a compromise is the way forward. As an example France have made it a law that all carparks with a roof put solar on them. Seems sensible as these are flat roofs and ugly buildings. Why don't we do the same?
Maybe all new build house could have solar fitted on roofs as standard.
On motorways on the layby you could have either solar or turbines installed here. Loads of space and pretty ugly roads with no houses impacted.

Personally i think people (us) have to realise that things cannot continue as now and there will be an impact, possibly a cost in the short term. The nimby attitude clearly doesn't help, especially when many don't offer an alternative. When utility prices went sky high after the Ukraine invasion i suspect must people would have been happy if we didn't need to buy so much gas from other countries.