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 the_mcanuff_stuff  Caterham 29 Jun 16 1.47pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Where was the intensity and urgency in our play? You're right that the players looked scared and passive. I think Woy wanted them to play a patient, possession game but they don't play that way for their clubs so we need to go back to basics, Redknapp's sides are blood and thunder, a way English players know how to play - at frenetic pace. Right. The Spanish way, which a few years ago was hailed as the only way to go. But we should follow the German model, which is much more direct and much more suited to our psyche.
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Pussay Patrol  29 Jun 16 1.48pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Who has just turned round the fortunes of English rugby and who is the supremo in charge of English cricket. The answer to both is "an Australian" But it's not a big deal in those sports, it's generally accepted but not in Football, it's an ignominy for a big nation to have to go foreign. Did Sven and / or Capello turn around our fortunes for the football team? A big resounding NO !! England's problems are not the manager so getting a foreign boss does not solve the problem
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| Pussay Patrol 29 Jun 16 1.54pm |
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Originally posted by the_mcanuff_stuff
Right. The Spanish way, which a few years ago was hailed as the only way to go. But we should follow the German model, which is much more direct and much more suited to our psyche. No, we should play our own way, the British way not copy others. If you take English players from Spurs, Man U, Liverpool etc who play a certain way for their clubs and ask them to play a completely different way they will struggle. You should bring your own brand and identity to a tournament and represent YOUR game. The Italians play an Italian way the way they do in Serie A, The Spanish the Spain way like they do in La Liga, Germans a German way like they do in the Bundesliga. England should play an English way like it is in the Premiership and with an English manager
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| topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 29 Jun 16 2.11pm |
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Arsène Wenger would be ideal. He wouldn't actually win anything but he could get close to it which is more than we have had for quite some time.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Jun 16 4.20pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
England should play an English way like it is in the Premiership and with an English manager I think on reflection, we do play the English way, but the problem is, we're not the top clubs in the premiership, which really are top clubs because of having the best foreign players. We're maybe Stoke City, or West Brom with managers who typically have done well in English football with small clubs. Which is a problem when we play internationals. And the players tend to think they're superstars.
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| Pussay Patrol 29 Jun 16 5.16pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I think on reflection, we do play the English way, but the problem is, we're not the top clubs in the premiership, which really are top clubs because of having the best foreign players. We're maybe Stoke City, or West Brom with managers who typically have done well in English football with small clubs. Which is a problem when we play internationals. And the players tend to think they're superstars. So Alli and Kane aren't Tottenham's best players? Vardy isn't Leicester's best player? they're champs aren't they? 2 top scorers in the prem, both English. Player of the season as well.
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twist  Miami, Florida 29 Jun 16 7.05pm |
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Jurgen Klinsmann, wonder if hes interested.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Jun 16 7.12pm |
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I think the players aren't very intelligent on the field or off it. How many are targeted by clubs abroad? That's partly due to money but it's also, and always has been, because they cannot adapt to different styles and different players. Our's are used to being slotted into a system at their clubs with top class talent cherry picked from around the globe. Ask them to adapt and think and they're lost. Was Lampard any good away from Chelsea? No. Look at the other top nations. Can play at foreign clubs, join up with national sides and do what's asked. I was reluctant to get too interested in England but they pulled me in and p1ssed me off again. I'll never go to a tournament now. Too many muppets there as well.
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| Qwijibo Bournemouth 29 Jun 16 8.37pm |
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Originally posted by topcat
Arsène Wenger would be ideal. He wouldn't actually win anything but he could get close to it which is more than we have had for quite some time. Not sure wenger is the answer in 2016,2017 or any other time since 2005 for that matter. Gentleman of the game, but not the way forward
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chateauferret  29 Jun 16 9.31pm |
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Originally posted by Qwijibo
Not sure wenger is the answer in 2016,2017 or any other time since 2005 for that matter. Gentleman of the game, but not the way forward Well his press conferences might be a bit more amusing. "Euh well ze playeurs 'ave done evereesing ve 'ave asked euhv zem... eet ees 'ardly mah fault eef zey arr - 'ow you say - sheet".
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| gbox82 Meols, Wirral 29 Jun 16 9.33pm |
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Southgate has just said he doesn't want it. Situation must be really bad if he's turning it down!
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| Cannonball High in the Ozarks. 29 Jun 16 9.47pm |
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Originally posted by twist
Jurgen Klinsmann, wonder if hes interested. Great shout ! He'd be my choice.
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