The difference was they closed us down with at least two players when ever we had the ball and no matter where we were, we on the other hand had Zimmer frames to help as we watched them do whatever they liked and any where they liked.

The big question is why we had no intensity in anything we tried, we were too slow to attack and too slow to defend which made their job so easy it was actually embarrassing to watch.

I read a quote form an ex Liverpool player once who played under Roy and it went along the lines of, they would be playing a team who most of the players thought they had a chance of winning against but then Roy would set them up defensively which would change the player's mindset into believing they could possibly lose.

This could easily be happening at Palace whereby the players always look to play sideways or backwards as they are sent out with a negative instead of positive mindset, which is evident as not many, as a first instinct look to play forwards.

That may be true but during the game you could hear the bench yelling them to get forwards. There is no point in that approach in a cup match as you hav3 to with go forward in the competition. Wolves were just too well organised for the side we put out.

There is a silver lining (for me) which is we can now concentrate on the PL and pick up points until we get the the 40 points threshold. Also, he will have learned a lot about which of the 14 out of contract players he wants to keep.

I agree you can hear the bench shouting that but at what point do they do that at the start of a match or when we are chasing a game.

Didn't think there was any particular plan other than to get some game time into players that haven't played so much recently and most of those players let themselves down.

Still, at least it dispels the myth that Benteke is good at holding the ball up and the leggy Riedewald is the answer to our midfield problems which I keep reading from the so called judges on social media.

PVA looks as though he couldn't give a monkeys but Roy has manage that situation carefully in case Mitchell gets injured.

Only players who were OK were Tomkins, Ayew and McCarthy.

Try asking people who've watched Liverpool or England over the last decade. You might finally work it out.

But he's another that's slow and can't travel with the ball despite being younger. He's also not good or snappy enough out of possession.

Absolutely smashed by a two bob outfit!!! Disgraceful!!! Sack the lot of them, starting with that idiot Roy Hodgson!!! Then kick out Steve Parish!!! And those U.S. tossers!!! There for the taking!!! Such an easy game, all we needed to do was attack, attack, attack......

It was Wolverhampton Wanderers. Away. They have pumped a fair few quid into the team. I really despair of the 'supporters' these days.

And ffs stop using the word "turgid". I wouldn't mind if we did play turgidly, but that is not possible.

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Exactly this. To me this is our main problem and why we are such an appalling side to watch. He has the midfield and wingers soooo deep that whenever the mids or full backs get the ball there is absolutely nothing in front of them to pass to, therefore sideways and backwards is the only option. Most of the time the cm's are in line with our cb's, its ridiculous.Whenever the cb's have the ball watch the cm's run back to receive a 2 yard pass from them instead of find space in the middle. We used to play with wingers making runs down the line now they run backwards towards the full backs to again receive a 2 yard pass and then we end up with 2 or 3 players huddled up within 2 feet of each other with nowhere to go. There is literally no movement or attacking intent under this management and there never has been. I hate the fact that a player like Zaha has wasted a good part of his career playing in a system like this. I hope to God Hodgson goes at the end of this season so I can start enjoying it again and hopefully have the excitement of seeing at least a couple of shots a game.