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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Apr 19 9.55am

Originally posted by Rubin

How do you feel about your contribution towards the watering down of a word that used to only be used to socially ostracise people who truly deserved it, to the point where it's now completely meaningless?

Wah wah wah wah wah.

That’s what he’ll hear and so should you when you read his repetitive posts. We need an ignore option and button.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 14 Apr 19 9.58am

Originally posted by Rubin

How do you feel about your contribution towards the watering down of a word that used to only be used to socially ostracise people who truly deserved it, to the point where it's now completely meaningless?

This is true. It’s become the buzzword equivalent of Just a Minute’s deviation or repetition.
We live in a world where Easter chocolate rabbits are described in the same way as apartheid.
The way the word racism is bandied about you’d think everyone hears or says something blatently racist every few minutes.
I don’t know any racists. Society has changed for the better in this respect. I’ve met a couple in the last thirty or forty years but chose not to spend any time in their company. I suspect most people are the same.

 

Pussay Patrol Flag 14 Apr 19 10.51am

Originally posted by Rubin

How do you feel about your contribution towards the watering down of a word that used to only be used to socially ostracise people who truly deserved it, to the point where it's now completely meaningless?

I'd rather live in a world where it's overplayed and there's no racism rather than a slight acceptance and as a consequence incidents of racism have become more prevalent. Brexit has played a role in that

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 14 Apr 19 11.07am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I'd rather live in a world where it's overplayed and there's no racism rather than a slight acceptance and as a consequence incidents of racism have become more prevalent. Brexit has played a role in that

But there won’t ever be any lack of racism when people insist on seeing it where none exists. Its like the “N” word. The only reason it’s still heard is because rappers and comedians insist in shouting it all the time. There were loads of derogatory terms for people of colour which have all disappeared but that one is still around.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 14 Apr 19 11.09am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

But why are we getting angry about the vote not being carried out and not the social injustices you speak of?

Like the French?

Brexit is a convenient distraction for this Tory government where otherwise they would be under serious scrutiny for the austerity cuts, like the crime explosion and poverty. The only people angry about the brexit vote are those that buy into the idea that the EU is the root of our problems. The Tories are happy with that, that's why they are happy to drag it out as long as necessary

Yeah, because Brexit is making the Tories look so good.

Keep off the drugs.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Apr 19 11.14am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I'd rather live in a world where it's overplayed and there's no racism rather than a slight acceptance and as a consequence incidents of racism have become more prevalent. Brexit has played a role in that

Say no more.

You really are an ostrich. There’s racism from all races if that’s what you want to call it.

Incidents of racism? You’re either talking about the twisting of words said or typed, pointless accusations of cultural appropriation from the hypocrite Diane Abbott of all people or small amounts of physical incidents, possibly because there’s been too much immigration and segregated, isolated communities.

You are just the type of person who moves out of London in their 30’s because it’s okay for others but not for them. You aren’t related to Kermit and DanH are you? At least Gusset stayed in the white suburbs with a sprinkling of ethnic minorities stays loyal to his word.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Apr 19 5.57pm

Yesterday I complimented a Remain politician for the measured and well argued way he put his case for a 2nd Referendum.

Today for balance I give you David Lammy, apparently us Leavers are in bed with the Nazis.

[Link]

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 14 Apr 19 6.13pm

With pp constantly bleating on about racism a thought occured to me.
If the ethnic proportion of individuals within our community is growing then general assaults and fights and trouble between people will include more and more of the non white population.
It doesnt necessarily mean its racist.
Its surely the law of averages.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 14 Apr 19 6.14pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Yesterday I complimented a Remain politician for the measured and well argued way he put his case for a 2nd Referendum.

Today for balance I give you David Lammy, apparently us Leavers are in bed with the Nazis.

[Link]

He is truly the no trick pony.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 14 Apr 19 6.25pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Yesterday I complimented a Remain politician for the measured and well argued way he put his case for a 2nd Referendum.

Today for balance I give you David Lammy, apparently us Leavers are in bed with the Nazis.

[Link]

I know which one of these Nazis I wouldn't mind finding myself in bed with.

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Stirlingsays Flag 14 Apr 19 6.28pm

Originally posted by cryrst

With pp constantly bleating on about racism a thought occured to me.
If the ethnic proportion of individuals within our community is growing then general assaults and fights and trouble between people will include more and more of the non white population.
It doesnt necessarily mean its racist.
Its surely the law of averages.


That's common sense, but we are talking idealists and politicians here.....so common sense is pretty patchy at best.

Politicians aren't interested in reality, they are interested in their careers.......and idealists prefer ideas to reality.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2019 6.31pm)

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Apr 19 7.08pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Yesterday I complimented a Remain politician for the measured and well argued way he put his case for a 2nd Referendum.

Today for balance I give you David Lammy, apparently us Leavers are in bed with the Nazis.

[Link]

Yes I saw that. He has truly lost the plot and I hate to say this but has the chip of all chips on his shoulder.

Soldiers also died protecting themselves and their country from being controlled by an outside force that wouldn’t allow Britain to control itself. He is so out of touch and consumed with fighting for people in his own constituency that have to turn to crime and violence according to him that he’s gone blind.

He isn’t worth listening to with his apoplectic outbursts and neither is Diane Abbott. There’s surely some better black people in politics, or do they see that it’s not worth being involved in if you’re intelligent enough to earn well elsewhere, and why we get these poor excuses as token black politicians?

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 14 Apr 19 8.38pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Yes I saw that. He has truly lost the plot and I hate to say this but has the chip of all chips on his shoulder.

Soldiers also died protecting themselves and their country from being controlled by an outside force that wouldn’t allow Britain to control itself. He is so out of touch and consumed with fighting for people in his own constituency that have to turn to crime and violence according to him that he’s gone blind.

He isn’t worth listening to with his apoplectic outbursts and neither is Diane Abbott. There’s surely some better black people in politics, or do they see that it’s not worth being involved in if you’re intelligent enough to earn well elsewhere, and why we get these poor excuses as token black politicians?

Not forgetting his claim that a million Indian soldiers died in WW 2 fighting for the European project.
He is also the intellectual giant who thought the married name of Pierre and Marie who won the Nobel prize in 1903 for their research into radiation was Antoinette and that the blue cheese often served with port is Red Leicester.

 

chris123 Flag hove actually 15 Apr 19 8.43am

Originally posted by Badger11

Yesterday I complimented a Remain politician for the measured and well argued way he put his case for a 2nd Referendum.

Today for balance I give you David Lammy, apparently us Leavers are in bed with the Nazis.

[Link]

He said comparison to Nazis was "not strong enough", irrepective of your politics or position on leaving the EU, that's quite something - worse than Hitler's pursuit of a master race.

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 15 Apr 19 10.58am

Originally posted by Badger11

Yesterday I complimented a Remain politician for the measured and well argued way he put his case for a 2nd Referendum.

Today for balance I give you David Lammy, apparently us Leavers are in bed with the Nazis.

[Link]

Do you have a link to what was actually said by Lammy, not a snippet after it?

Not that I don’t trust JRM to be objective by the way

Anyone able to tell me how many Indian soldiers (excluding those that fought for the Japanese) of the 2.5m that served in WW2 did in fact die?

Edited by Mapletree (15 Apr 2019 10.58am)

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Apr 19 11.04am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Do you have a link to what was actually said by Lammy, not a snippet after it?

Not that I don’t trust JRM to be objective by the way

Anyone able to tell me how many Indian soldiers (excluding those that fought for the Japanese) of the 2.5m that served in WW2 did in fact die?

Edited by Mapletree (15 Apr 2019 10.58am)

It was played on LBC this morning I am sure if you google it you can find it. I made no claims about what Lammy said beyond the contrast between what the BBC reported and my post of the previous day about a well argued Remainer. The Indian soldiers comment wasn't me.

Personally I think Lammy is not helping his side.


Edited by Badger11 (15 Apr 2019 11.05am)

 


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chris123 Flag hove actually 15 Apr 19 11.23am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Do you have a link to what was actually said by Lammy, not a snippet after it?

Not that I don’t trust JRM to be objective by the way

Anyone able to tell me how many Indian soldiers (excluding those that fought for the Japanese) of the 2.5m that served in WW2 did in fact die?

Edited by Mapletree (15 Apr 2019 10.58am)

It was on Andrew Marr yesterday morning on BBC1.

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 15 Apr 19 12.06pm

Originally posted by Badger11

It was played on LBC this morning I am sure if you google it you can find it. I made no claims about what Lammy said beyond the contrast between what the BBC reported and my post of the previous day about a well argued Remainer. The Indian soldiers comment wasn't me.

Personally I think Lammy is not helping his side.


Edited by Badger11 (15 Apr 2019 11.05am)

Perhaps. Anything that originates with The Daily Mail is automatically suspect. The link was particularly suspicious as it starts after the comments that were the topic of JRM’s complaints

Edited by Mapletree (15 Apr 2019 12.07pm)

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 15 Apr 19 1.28pm

Originally posted by chris123

It was on Andrew Marr yesterday morning on BBC1.

Most importantly this was not a comment on those who died for whose sacrifice everyone is grateful. It was about the numbers and estimates are between 87,000 and 89,000, mostly fighting the Japanese.
The point was that no one died in the war for “The European Project”
but that didn't suit his narrative. So he made it up and as usual got defensive when challenged on his nonsense.

 

Pussay Patrol Flag 15 Apr 19 1.37pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Perhaps. Anything that originates with The Daily Mail is automatically suspect. The link was particularly suspicious as it starts after the comments that were the topic of JRM’s complaints

Edited by Mapletree (15 Apr 2019 12.07pm)

Strange the daily mail didnt run story of one of their contributors who was a staunch leaver saying brexit was a bad idea or recent investigations into senior Tory politicians murky financial dealings. Labour politician says something controversial, full page splash

 


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