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Midlands Eagle Flag 17 Apr 19 9.18am

Originally posted by Mapletree


She said the farmers who voted leave have changed their minds. For all it’s inadequacies the CAP is now viewed as the better option than relying on UK politicians-especially Tories- to put in place suitable supports. They do indeed feel duped, realising this was a way simply to take back monies currently spent on support to agriculture.

As I have just said it isn't Brexit that is the problem but the inadequate preparations. We should all know what the score is by now and that includes farmers, car makers, fishermen et al.

Mrs May should be strung up for the appalling mess she has made of handling Brexit

 

.TUX. Flag 17 Apr 19 9.22am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The economy has suffered. 66bn lost growth and the article was posted here

Nothing to do with the global slowdown?

Edited by .TUX. (17 Apr 2019 9.22am)

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 17 Apr 19 9.23am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

As I have just said it isn't Brexit that is the problem but the inadequate preparations. We should all know what the score is by now and that includes farmers, car makers, fishermen et al.

Mrs May should be strung up for the appalling mess she has made of handling Brexit

Not so

A pup has been sold

As far as I can see this was purposeful misinformation so that the Treasury could take the gain.

The seat in question swung from UKIP to Lib Dem, which shows the strength of feeling

 

.TUX. Flag 17 Apr 19 9.23am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle


Mrs May should be strung up for the deliberate mess she has made of handling Brexit

EFA

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 17 Apr 19 9.25am

Originally posted by .TUX.

Nothing to do with the global slowdown?

Edited by .TUX. (17 Apr 2019 9.22am)

Nope

Purely Brexit

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 17 Apr 19 9.28am

Originally posted by .TUX.

Nothing to do with the global slowdown?

Edited by .TUX. (17 Apr 2019 9.22am)

Give it a rest, bud.

Of course It is but there are obviously other more localised contributing factors. As for the weighting? Who knows. You’d have to consult someone with an intelligent and unbiased mind.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 17 Apr 19 9.30am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

As I have just said it isn't Brexit that is the problem but the inadequate preparations. We should all know what the score is by now and that includes farmers, car makers, fishermen et al.

Mrs May should be strung up for the appalling mess she has made of handling Brexit

Surely then the point is you should only vote out if you knew all that instead of voting for something unknown? Hence why there should be a 2nd vote

If you ask me, farming is an industry that the Tories will run into the ground

Edited by Pussay Patrol (17 Apr 2019 9.32am)

 


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.TUX. Flag 17 Apr 19 9.35am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Give it a rest, bud.

Of course It is but there are obviously other more localised contributing factors. As for the weighting? Who knows. You’d have to consult someone with an intelligent and unbiased mind.

I do, and guess what.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 17 Apr 19 9.43am

Originally posted by .TUX.

I do, and guess what.

You don’t. You have a full on Orwellian complex. I’m yet to see one post where you don’t in some way crowbar in your fully observable facts and dress them up as sagely tellings that no one else has seen. Mix in a bit of chicken little, a tin hat, sandwich board and some bud, and we’re there. Again. For the 456 millionth time.

I’m waiting for the post that attempts to link a palace result to the global financial crisis.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 17 Apr 19 9.48am

Really all you have to do with brexit is bung Tusk a letter revoking Article 50.

That's all there is to it.

That and pray that Notre Dame is coming to Westminster soon, the cathedral was probably in better condition.

 

chris123 Flag hove actually 17 Apr 19 9.53am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Where's your link?

Wouldn't it be nice to go a day with no links, just our own articulted, reasoned opinions.

 

Pussay Patrol Flag 17 Apr 19 10.03am

Originally posted by chris123

Wouldn't it be nice to go a day with no links, just our own articulted, reasoned opinions.

I agree but you must separate opinion and fact. You cannot make off the cuff remarks and claim them as fact, they must be substantiated and referenced

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 17 Apr 19 10.07am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I spoke to a Councillor from Somerset this week, she is door knocking due to upcoming elections

She said the farmers who voted leave have changed their minds. For all it’s inadequacies the CAP is now viewed as the better option than relying on UK politicians-especially Tories- to put in place suitable supports. They do indeed feel duped, realising this was a way simply to take back monies currently spent on support to agriculture.

So the strategy of Remain is to delay Brexit long enough so that people become disillusioned and change their minds?

Thanks for the confirmation.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Apr 19 10.11am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I agree but you must separate opinion and fact. You cannot make off the cuff remarks and claim them as fact, they must be substantiated and referenced

But that’s not your purpose. What you are saying is “I don’t agree with that. Prove it”. If you want evidence find it yourself. How many links do you provide? Or do you hold your own truths to be self evident?

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 17 Apr 19 10.29am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So the strategy of Remain is to delay Brexit long enough so that people become disillusioned and change their minds?

Thanks for the confirmation.

Who knows. What I do know is that 'Remain' and 'Leave' are not one giant hive mind that all think the same, therefore insinuating that delaying in order to change peoples minds is some kind of organised, coherent strategy is reaching a little.

Also re. farmers, you can hardly blame them. I doubt they are as ideologically driven as you to continue to back something that will in fact ruin them, just out of principle. See most people. Just like the ERG, there is a dwindling hardcore of people who still give a s*** about this process. Everyone else is moving on. Or at least attempting to. Time to find the next thing to be bitter and resentful about...

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 17 Apr 19 10.34am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But that’s not your purpose. What you are saying is “I don’t agree with that. Prove it”. If you want evidence find it yourself. How many links do you provide? Or do you hold your own truths to be self evident?

I'm not saying that, I just dislike lazy retorts and throw away remarks to discredit a good debate where one has presented a credible article to support their argument

Just accept its a goal for our side and try and find an equaliser

Edited by Pussay Patrol (17 Apr 2019 10.34am)

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Apr 19 10.46am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I'm not saying that, I just dislike lazy retorts and throw away remarks to discredit a good debate where one has presented a credible article to support their argument

Just accept its a goal for our side and try and find an equaliser

Edited by Pussay Patrol (17 Apr 2019 10.34am)

To repeat. I previously provided a link, which by the way wasn’t from one of your proscribed sources, and you dismissed it.
Where are the links to back up your assertions?

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 17 Apr 19 10.50am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Who knows. What I do know is that 'Remain' and 'Leave' are not one giant hive mind that all think the same, therefore insinuating that delaying in order to change peoples minds is some kind of organised, coherent strategy is reaching a little.

Also re. farmers, you can hardly blame them. I doubt they are as ideologically driven as you to continue to back something that will in fact ruin them, just out of principle. See most people. Just like the ERG, there is a dwindling hardcore of people who still give a s*** about this process. Everyone else is moving on. Or at least attempting to. Time to find the next thing to be bitter and resentful about...

The bottom line is that we have had the referendum already.
How many governments have people regretted electing?

All of them eventually. It is in the nature of people to become dissatisfied with the existing circumstances.

The difference is that we haven't even left the EU yet, so no one is in a position to judge the effects.

Of course, some of us didn't just vote to line our own pockets and when have you ever heard a farmer happy about anything?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (17 Apr 2019 10.51am)

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 17 Apr 19 11.20am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The bottom line is that we have had the referendum already.
How many governments have people regretted electing?

All of them eventually. It is in the nature of people to become dissatisfied with the existing circumstances.

The difference is that we haven't even left the EU yet, so no one is in a position to judge the effects.

Of course, some of us didn't just vote to line our own pockets and when have you ever heard a farmer happy about anything?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (17 Apr 2019 10.51am)

Fair point about farmers, but still, the point around not voting to cut your nose off to spite your own face still stands.

The fact that we haven't even left the EU yet and it's this bad already, is exactly the reason why people are changing their minds. Not because of actual tangible effects as a result of leaving, but because of how badly it is being managed.

Doesn't exactly instils confidence for the post exit process does it. Everyone is taking one look at this s*** show and coming to the only logical conclusion. This is still why I can't understand people ranging against the establishment one minute, then expecting them to seamlessly deliver for them the next. It boggles the brain. The two are completely incompatible.

 


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.TUX. Flag 17 Apr 19 12.14pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

You don’t. You have a full on Orwellian complex. I’m yet to see one post where you don’t in some way crowbar in your fully observable facts and dress them up as sagely tellings that no one else has seen. Mix in a bit of chicken little, a tin hat, sandwich board and some bud, and we’re there. Again. For the 456 millionth time.

I’m waiting for the post that attempts to link a palace result to the global financial crisis.

Mr. Hang-up is off again.........

 


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