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Pussay Patrol 21 Apr 19 12.36pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 Tom Watson "And, above all, they deserve better than Nigel Farage's promise of a far-right Brexit that would solve nothing." He simply doesn't get it, these words are more likely to loose him votes. BBC News - Brexit: Labour must back another referendum - Tom Watson [Link] He's right We need another referendum Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

21 Apr 19 12.36pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Tom Watson
"And, above all, they deserve better than Nigel Farage's promise of a far-right Brexit that would solve nothing."

He simply doesn't get it, these words are more likely to loose him votes.

BBC News - Brexit: Labour must back another referendum - Tom Watson
[Link]

He's right

We need another referendum

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

dannyboy1978 21 Apr 19 12.41pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol He's right We need another referendum I agree, once the first one has been implemented

dannyboy1978

21 Apr 19 12.41pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

He's right

We need another referendum

I agree, once the first one has been implemented

Midlands Eagle 21 Apr 19 1.50pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol We need another referendum And another and another until you finally get the result that you want. Democracy Mugabe style

Midlands Eagle

21 Apr 19 1.50pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

We need another referendum

And another and another until you finally get the result that you want.

Democracy Mugabe style

Badger11 Beckenham 21 Apr 19 1.54pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol He's right We need another referendum OK Pussay here's your chance to enlighten us. What would the question be? Just give us a general idea please. The reason I ask this question is I don't think it will be fair there are several permutations each of which is unfair to one group of voters or another so I am interested in how you would ask the question. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 21 Apr 19 1.54pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

He's right

We need another referendum

OK Pussay here's your chance to enlighten us. What would the question be? Just give us a general idea please.

The reason I ask this question is I don't think it will be fair there are several permutations each of which is unfair to one group of voters or another so I am interested in how you would ask the question.

One more point

.TUX. 21 Apr 19 2.07pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle And another and another until you finally get the result that you want. Democracy Mugabe style Agreed. No doubt the next 6months, as with the last 3yrs, will be used to end this pesky Brexit nonsense once and for all. Edited by .TUX. (21 Apr 2019 2.08pm) Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

21 Apr 19 2.07pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

And another and another until you finally get the result that you want.

Democracy Mugabe style

Agreed.
No doubt the next 6months, as with the last 3yrs, will be used to end this pesky Brexit nonsense once and for all.

Edited by .TUX. (21 Apr 2019 2.08pm)

Buy Litecoin.

dannyboy1978 21 Apr 19 6.58pm
How funny. [Link] And I thought the EU was such a happy place. Edited by dannyboy1978 (21 Apr 2019 7.06pm)

dannyboy1978

21 Apr 19 6.58pm

How funny.
[Link]

And I thought the EU was such a happy place.

Edited by dannyboy1978 (21 Apr 2019 7.06pm)

Stirlingsays 21 Apr 19 7.07pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 How funny. [Link] Considering how willing Germans are (Alternative for Germany excepted) to embrace the self flagellation for the sins of their grandfathers (most of whom were relatively powerless) this issue always amuses me. But then again, words are easy virtue signalling aren't they, whereas actually putting your hands in your pockets....that you often find becomes something else entirely. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

21 Apr 19 7.07pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

How funny.
[Link]

Considering how willing Germans are (Alternative for Germany excepted) to embrace the self flagellation for the sins of their grandfathers (most of whom were relatively powerless) this issue always amuses me.

But then again, words are easy virtue signalling aren't they, whereas actually putting your hands in your pockets....that you often find becomes something else entirely.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hrolf The Ganger 21 Apr 19 7.46pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol He's right We need another referendum What a pathetic bunch Remainers are. It is hardly surprising that Labour would back a second referendum as they are the most self serving and untrustworthy party going. When a party tries to defy democracy to win a democratic election then they deserve to be wiped out at the polls.

Hrolf The Ganger

21 Apr 19 7.46pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

He's right

We need another referendum

What a pathetic bunch Remainers are.
It is hardly surprising that Labour would back a second referendum as they are the most self serving and untrustworthy party going.

When a party tries to defy democracy to win a democratic election then they deserve to be wiped out at the polls.

Pussay Patrol 21 Apr 19 8.44pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 How funny. [Link] And I thought the EU was such a happy place. Edited by dannyboy1978 (21 Apr 2019 7.06pm) I didn't know there was a place called the EU Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

21 Apr 19 8.44pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

How funny.
[Link]

And I thought the EU was such a happy place.

Edited by dannyboy1978 (21 Apr 2019 7.06pm)

I didn't know there was a place called the EU

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol 21 Apr 19 8.57pm
Originally posted by Badger11 OK Pussay here's your chance to enlighten us. What would the question be? Just give us a general idea please. The reason I ask this question is I don't think it will be fair there are several permutations each of which is unfair to one group of voters or another so I am interested in how you would ask the question. Attachment: 57591590_1058901414297107_644770953015853056_n.jpg (79.13Kb) Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

21 Apr 19 8.57pm

Originally posted by Badger11

OK Pussay here's your chance to enlighten us. What would the question be? Just give us a general idea please.

Attachment: 57591590_1058901414297107_644770953015853056_n.jpg (79.13Kb)

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Hrolf The Ganger 21 Apr 19 9.33pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol You really are a comedian. A bad one, but a comedian. You would love those three options, wouldn't you.

Hrolf The Ganger

21 Apr 19 9.33pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

You really are a comedian. A bad one, but a comedian.

You would love those three options, wouldn't you.

Badger11 Beckenham 21 Apr 19 9.41pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol So the leave vote is split between 2 options well at least you have answered my question. What if it's Remain 48% Leave Theresa deal 25% Just leave 25% At the moment I don't see how a question can be framed that is fair and simple to everybody. If we do have a 2nd referendum I can see all sorts of legal challenges over the question both before and after the referendum. One thing I hope we both can agree on if there is a 2nd referendum the purpose most be to resolve this issue without any ambiguity otherwise it will be onto the best of 3. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 21 Apr 19 9.41pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

So the leave vote is split between 2 options well at least you have answered my question.

What if it's

Remain 48%
Leave Theresa deal 25%
Just leave 25%

At the moment I don't see how a question can be framed that is fair and simple to everybody. If we do have a 2nd referendum I can see all sorts of legal challenges over the question both before and after the referendum.

One thing I hope we both can agree on if there is a 2nd referendum the purpose most be to resolve this issue without any ambiguity otherwise it will be onto the best of 3.

One more point

Hrolf The Ganger 21 Apr 19 10.02pm
Originally posted by Badger11 So the leave vote is split between 2 options well at least you have answered my question. What if it's Remain 48% Leave Theresa deal 25% Just leave 25% At the moment I don't see how a question can be framed that is fair and simple to everybody. If we do have a 2nd referendum I can see all sorts of legal challenges over the question both before and after the referendum. One thing I hope we both can agree on if there is a 2nd referendum the purpose most be to resolve this issue without any ambiguity otherwise it will be onto the best of 3. The fallout from the referendum should tell you why a second one would be a disaster. People on the remain side often claim that a referendum was a bad idea. They claim that people were not sophisticated enough to answer a two option choice. They claim that Brexit incompetence is costing the country money. Why then would you want to do it all again with harder questions? The decision has been made. Just accept it and move on. They only want another vote because they lost. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (21 Apr 2019 10.08pm)

Hrolf The Ganger

21 Apr 19 10.02pm

Originally posted by Badger11

So the leave vote is split between 2 options well at least you have answered my question.

What if it's

Remain 48%
Leave Theresa deal 25%
Just leave 25%

One thing I hope we both can agree on if there is a 2nd referendum the purpose most be to resolve this issue without any ambiguity otherwise it will be onto the best of 3.

The fallout from the referendum should tell you why a second one would be a disaster.
People on the remain side often claim that a referendum was a bad idea.
They claim that people were not sophisticated enough to answer a two option choice.
They claim that Brexit incompetence is costing the country money.
Why then would you want to do it all again with harder questions?

The decision has been made. Just accept it and move on.
They only want another vote because they lost.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (21 Apr 2019 10.08pm)

Pussay Patrol 21 Apr 19 11.01pm
Originally posted by Badger11 So the leave vote is split between 2 options well at least you have answered my question. What if it's Remain 48% Leave Theresa deal 25% Just leave 25% At the moment I don't see how a question can be framed that is fair and simple to everybody. If we do have a 2nd referendum I can see all sorts of legal challenges over the question both before and after the referendum. One thing I hope we both can agree on if there is a 2nd referendum the purpose most be to resolve this issue without any ambiguity otherwise it will be onto the best of 3. That was slightly in jest. I think all leave votes should be collective if that were the case. No, seriously I think it should be the same as before, yes or no. Maybe put plenty of information out there like a dedicated website that answers all questions and has every piece of information. Plus make it clear there will be absolutely no more votes. Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

21 Apr 19 11.01pm

Originally posted by Badger11

So the leave vote is split between 2 options well at least you have answered my question.

What if it's

Remain 48%
Leave Theresa deal 25%
Just leave 25%

One thing I hope we both can agree on if there is a 2nd referendum the purpose most be to resolve this issue without any ambiguity otherwise it will be onto the best of 3.

That was slightly in jest. I think all leave votes should be collective if that were the case. No, seriously I think it should be the same as before, yes or no. Maybe put plenty of information out there like a dedicated website that answers all questions and has every piece of information. Plus make it clear there will be absolutely no more votes.

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

dannyboy1978 21 Apr 19 11.46pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol That was slightly in jest. I think all leave votes should be collective if that were the case. No, seriously I think it should be the same as before, yes or no. Maybe put plenty of information out there like a dedicated website that answers all questions and has every piece of information. Plus make it clear there will be absolutely no more votes. Like this one lol. [Link] Give it up,you lost

dannyboy1978

21 Apr 19 11.46pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Like this one lol.
[Link]

Give it up,you lost

chris123 hove actually 22 Apr 19 8.26am
Originally posted by Badger11 So the leave vote is split between 2 options well at least you have answered my question. What if it's Remain 48% Leave Theresa deal 25% Just leave 25% At the moment I don't see how a question can be framed that is fair and simple to everybody. If we do have a 2nd referendum I can see all sorts of legal challenges over the question both before and after the referendum. One thing I hope we both can agree on if there is a 2nd referendum the purpose most be to resolve this issue without any ambiguity otherwise it will be onto the best of 3. We need free, unwhipped voting - all the while MPs are being whipped, most Labour MPs will oppose everything.

chris123

hove actually 22 Apr 19 8.26am

Originally posted by Badger11

So the leave vote is split between 2 options well at least you have answered my question.

What if it's

Remain 48%
Leave Theresa deal 25%
Just leave 25%

One thing I hope we both can agree on if there is a 2nd referendum the purpose most be to resolve this issue without any ambiguity otherwise it will be onto the best of 3.

We need free, unwhipped voting - all the while MPs are being whipped, most Labour MPs will oppose everything.

Pussay Patrol 22 Apr 19 9.24am
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 Like this one lol. [Link] Give it up,you lost Reading that now is quite interesting, especially the part: Securing our borders The UK is not part of the EU’s border-free zone – we control our own borders which gives us the right to check everyone, including EU nationals, arriving from continental Europe. So why does Theresa May say in Parliament we must leave to take back control of our borders? Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

22 Apr 19 9.24am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Like this one lol.
[Link]

Give it up,you lost

Reading that now is quite interesting, especially the part:

Securing our borders
The UK is not part of the EU’s
border-free zone – we control
our own borders which gives
us the right to check everyone,
including EU nationals, arriving
from continental Europe.

So why does Theresa May say in Parliament we must leave to take back control of our borders?

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Badger11 Beckenham 22 Apr 19 9.25am
Originally posted by chris123 We need free, unwhipped voting - all the while MPs are being whipped, most Labour MPs will oppose everything. I heard most MPs are quite partial to a bit of whipping. I don't think it actually matters in this case. Most Labour MPs are Remainers so not likely to vote to leave anyway. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 22 Apr 19 9.25am

Originally posted by chris123

We need free, unwhipped voting - all the while MPs are being whipped, most Labour MPs will oppose everything.

I heard most MPs are quite partial to a bit of whipping.

I don't think it actually matters in this case. Most Labour MPs are Remainers so not likely to vote to leave anyway.

One more point

Teddy Eagle 22 Apr 19 9.42am
Originally posted by chris123 We need free, unwhipped voting - all the while MPs are being whipped, most Labour MPs will oppose everything. As Corbyn voted against his party line over 400 times he could hardly complain.....

Teddy Eagle

22 Apr 19 9.42am

Originally posted by chris123

We need free, unwhipped voting - all the while MPs are being whipped, most Labour MPs will oppose everything.

As Corbyn voted against his party line over 400 times he could hardly complain.....

dannyboy1978 22 Apr 19 9.42am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Reading that now is quite interesting, especially the part: Securing our borders The UK is not part of the EU’s border-free zone – we control our own borders which gives us the right to check everyone, including EU nationals, arriving from continental Europe. So why does Theresa May say in Parliament we must leave to take back control of our borders? You are really scraping the barrel puss puss. Have a read of this to enlighten yourself. We will do the same as the EU will do to us "British travellers may be asked by border guards to provide information on the purpose of their visit and means of subsistence during their stay. Luggage would be subject to customs checks." AND "The commission also confirmed British travellers would lose their right to access healthcare through the European health insurance card" We would do the same saving the NHS money. [Link]

dannyboy1978

22 Apr 19 9.42am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Reading that now is quite interesting, especially the part:

So why does Theresa May say in Parliament we must leave to take back control of our borders?

You are really scraping the barrel puss puss.
Have a read of this to enlighten yourself.
We will do the same as the EU will do to us
"British travellers may be asked by border guards to provide information on the purpose of their visit and means of subsistence during their stay. Luggage would be subject to customs checks."
AND
"The commission also confirmed British travellers would lose their right to access healthcare through the European health insurance card"
We would do the same saving the NHS money.

[Link]

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