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 Teddy Eagle  23 Apr 19 9.05am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That link appears to disprove your assertion. No response?
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Badger11  Beckenham 23 Apr 19 9.18am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
There must be more to it than that? It's like starting a new party and calling it the 'get elected' party What is the Brexit party's strategy pre and post Brexit? And this is different to the People vote campaign how? It's a protest party once Brexit is actually achieved it will disappear unless it reinvents itself as UKIP is trying to do at the moment.
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| Midlands Eagle 23 Apr 19 9.19am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
There must be more to it than that? It's like starting a new party and calling it the 'get elected' party What is the Brexit party's strategy pre and post Brexit? A general election is likely years away which gives them plenty of time to come up with a manifesto
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| dannyboy1978 24 Apr 19 6.41am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I'll vote for Change UK It's true our political system is archaic and outdated and needs freshening up, we need to bin left and right ideologies and discard all the self serving elites supposedly running our country. If change UK want to change the UK wouldn't they be brexitiers?
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| ChrisGC Wantage 24 Apr 19 7.26am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I'll vote for Change UK It's true our political system is archaic and outdated and needs freshening up, we need to bin left and right ideologies and discard all the self serving elites supposedly running our country. There must be more to it than that? It's like starting a new party and calling it the 'get elected' party What is the Change party's strategy pre and post Brexit?
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| Midlands Eagle 24 Apr 19 7.40am |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
It's like starting a new party and calling it the 'get elected' party What is the Change party's strategy pre and post Brexit?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 24 Apr 19 7.55am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I'll vote for Change UK It's true our political system is archaic and outdated and needs freshening up, we need to bin left and right ideologies and discard all the self serving elites supposedly running our country. Actually Pussay that makes sense for people of your viewpoint. I still say come the General Elelction Change UK will disappear completely. However if we do have European elections the protest parties will be the ones that score heavily as those that can be bothered to vote express their anger with the major parties. If you are a Remainer why vote Labour? they are still a Brexit party. However if the Remain voters support Change UK in large enough numbers Labour may have a UKIP moment and decide that they are a full on Remain party. Anyway either way I think Change and Farage will do well in this protest election which no one cares about. Come the GE and I suspect both Labour and Tory parties will have finally got their act together so it will be business as usual. So Pussay for once I agree with you it makes sense if you are a Remainer.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 24 Apr 19 8.24am |
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Originally posted by Matov
I am sure that the point has been already raised but what do this 'Change' party actually want to change? All I see is a party that could not be more pro the status quo if it tried. And Gavin Essler. That is beautiful. Truly beautiful.
Apparently the Change party people have had enough. It's a funny saying because people who had enough always seem to want more.
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Pussay Patrol  24 Apr 19 9.29am |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
There must be more to it than that? It's like starting a new party and calling it the 'get elected' party What is the Change party's strategy pre and post Brexit?
Thanks for your interest All information can be found here:
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| dannyboy1978 24 Apr 19 9.57am |
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I read that and it could have been from the Labour or Tories, same old bull. "A vote to build a stronger, fairer Britain that works for everyone"
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| Pussay Patrol 24 Apr 19 10.00am |
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Originally posted by Matov
I am sure that the point has been already raised but what do this 'Change' party actually want to change? All I see is a party that could not be more pro the status quo if it tried. And Gavin Essler. That is beautiful. Truly beautiful. So do you think our political system is fine as it is? I think more and more people feel disenfranchised with politics and don't buy into traditional left and right ideology anymore, that's why I think there are low turnouts at elections and higher percentage seem to be the older demographic who are probably still traditional Tory or labour voters, but they are, forgive the expression, a dying breed, plus the house of Commons seems to resemble a playground of political infighting where our politicians seem only interested in playing party politics. As a result, the brexit process has become a complete farce, they seem incapable of of resolving this issue and the uncertainty is jeopardising the future of our country, the political system is not fit for purpose, it is stuck in the past and is no longer representative of us and our society. It's time for change
Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah |
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| Stirlingsays 24 Apr 19 10.15am |
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It's time to CUK!
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Matov 24 Apr 19 10.29am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
So do you think our political system is fine as it is? I think more and more people feel disenfranchised with politics and don't buy into traditional left and right ideology anymore, that's why I think there are low turnouts at elections and higher percentage seem to be the older demographic who are probably still traditional Tory or labour voters, but they are, forgive the expression, a dying breed, plus the house of Commons seems to resemble a playground of political infighting where our politicians seem only interested in playing party politics. As a result, the brexit process has become a complete farce, they seem incapable of of resolving this issue and the uncertainty is jeopardising the future of our country, the political system is not fit for purpose, it is stuck in the past and is no longer representative of us and our society. It's time for change I don't disagree with any of that. But let us be honest here. The only 'change' this lot want to bring about is that our votes are no longer valid. I despise this 'peoples vote' nonsense. I actually have a modicum of respect for those who just want to repeal Article 50 because they make no bones about having no truck with the democractic process and see it as no longer fit for purpose. I disagree but can appreciate the honesty. But Chuka and his pals are not about change. All they want is more of the same i.e the same professional political class riding roughshod over the rest of us. What they dislike intensely is that 52% actually voted for REAL change. That 52% of us rejected what the mainstream political classes were telling us. Brexit is the real change option.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| W12 24 Apr 19 10.43am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
I don't disagree with any of that. But let us be honest here. The only 'change' this lot want to bring about is that our votes are no longer valid. I despise this 'peoples vote' nonsense. I actually have a modicum of respect for those who just want to repeal Article 50 because they make no bones about having no truck with the democractic process and see it as no longer fit for purpose. I disagree but can appreciate the honesty. But Chuka and his pals are not about change. All they want is more of the same i.e the same professional political class riding roughshod over the rest of us. What they dislike intensely is that 52% actually voted for REAL change. That 52% of us rejected what the mainstream political classes were telling us. Brexit is the real change option. UKIP is the real change option
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 Hrolf The Ganger 24 Apr 19 10.44am |
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Originally posted by Matov
I don't disagree with any of that. But let us be honest here. The only 'change' this lot want to bring about is that our votes are no longer valid. I despise this 'peoples vote' nonsense. I actually have a modicum of respect for those who just want to repeal Article 50 because they make no bones about having no truck with the democractic process and see it as no longer fit for purpose. I disagree but can appreciate the honesty. But Chuka and his pals are not about change. All they want is more of the same i.e the same professional political class riding roughshod over the rest of us. What they dislike intensely is that 52% actually voted for REAL change. That 52% of us rejected what the mainstream political classes were telling us. Brexit is the real change option. Yes, it's a pathetic attempt to regain the trust of voters.
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| Pussay Patrol 24 Apr 19 10.51am |
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Originally posted by Matov
I don't disagree with any of that. But let us be honest here. The only 'change' this lot want to bring about is that our votes are no longer valid. I despise this 'peoples vote' nonsense. I actually have a modicum of respect for those who just want to repeal Article 50 because they make no bones about having no truck with the democractic process and see it as no longer fit for purpose. I disagree but can appreciate the honesty. But Chuka and his pals are not about change. All they want is more of the same i.e the same professional political class riding roughshod over the rest of us. What they dislike intensely is that 52% actually voted for REAL change. That 52% of us rejected what the mainstream political classes were telling us. Brexit is the real change option. Where does it say votes are invalid? They want a confirmatory referendum, what's wrong with that? It is assumed that change is change for the better. You want Brexit regardless of whether that change is better than remain. That's why we have an impasse It should be that the case for leaving should be obvious and compelling, otherwise if there is doubt, a confirmatory referendum should happen. Perfectly fair and logical
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