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 Matov  24 Apr 19 10.57am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Where does it say votes are invalid? They want a confirmatory referendum, what's wrong with that? Confirm what? This 'confirmatory' nonsense is beyond parody. We voted on June 23rd 2016. A binary option. Remain in the EU or Leave. A majority voted for us to Leave the EU. What part of that needs confirming? Or are Remainers so stupid that they failed to actually understand that 52% is bigger than 48%? Seriously, what do you need confirming about that?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 24 Apr 19 11.11am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Where does it say votes are invalid? They want a confirmatory referendum, what's wrong with that? It is assumed that change is change for the better. You want Brexit regardless of whether that change is better than remain. That's why we have an impasse It should be that the case for leaving should be obvious and compelling, otherwise if there is doubt, a confirmatory referendum should happen. Perfectly fair and logical How many ways can you say that you can't handle losing the referendum? Do you in your wildest dreams believe that anyone one buys this transparent bollocks?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 24 Apr 19 11.15am |
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Originally posted by Matov
Confirm what? This 'confirmatory' nonsense is beyond parody. We voted on June 23rd 2016. A binary option. Remain in the EU or Leave. A majority voted for us to Leave the EU. What part of that needs confirming? Or are Remainers so stupid that they failed to actually understand that 52% is bigger than 48%? Seriously, what do you need confirming about that?
What is brexit now to people, except that the word makes them roll their eyes and walk off! I may be deceased in a few years time in which case I will never know what actually happened, even VAR will not help. My guess is it will revoked and everybody just got on with their lives. Followed by some inflation to make people feel good regardless of its effect.
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| Matov 24 Apr 19 11.21am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
How many ways can you say that you can't handle losing the referendum? Do you in your wildest dreams believe that anyone one buys this transparent bollocks? It truly is staggering that they can still maintain this masquerade that somehow, by making us vote again, that this really is democracy in action. And that this time, cross their hearts and hope to die with no fingers crossed by their backs, that they will honour it. I much prefer the Remainers who just call me thick and stupid and want my vote on June 23rd ignored. That I can appreciate on one level, admire the chutzpah. But this 'peoples vote' bollocks, or whatever they are calling it this week, that infuriates me because it is cowardly. Like they lack the courage of their convictions.
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| W12 24 Apr 19 11.26am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
It truly is staggering that they can still maintain this masquerade that somehow, by making us vote again, that this really is democracy in action. And that this time, cross their hearts and hope to die with no fingers crossed by their backs, that they will honour it. I much prefer the Remainers who just call me thick and stupid and want my vote on June 23rd ignored. That I can appreciate on one level, admire the chutzpah. But this 'peoples vote' bollocks, or whatever they are calling it this week, that infuriates me because it is cowardly. Like they lack the courage of their convictions. It's been said by others recently but if the vote went the other way do you think we would have been offered a second vote of any kind or any form of compromise? The answer is clearly no
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 Apr 19 11.29am |
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Originally posted by Matov
It truly is staggering that they can still maintain this masquerade that somehow, by making us vote again, that this really is democracy in action. And that this time, cross their hearts and hope to die with no fingers crossed by their backs, that they will honour it. I much prefer the Remainers who just call me thick and stupid and want my vote on June 23rd ignored. That I can appreciate on one level, admire the chutzpah. But this 'peoples vote' bollocks, or whatever they are calling it this week, that infuriates me because it is cowardly. Like they lack the courage of their convictions.
Astonishing.
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Pussay Patrol  24 Apr 19 11.35am |
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Originally posted by Matov
It truly is staggering that they can still maintain this masquerade that somehow, by making us vote again, that this really is democracy in action. And that this time, cross their hearts and hope to die with no fingers crossed by their backs, that they will honour it. I much prefer the Remainers who just call me thick and stupid and want my vote on June 23rd ignored. That I can appreciate on one level, admire the chutzpah. But this 'peoples vote' bollocks, or whatever they are calling it this week, that infuriates me because it is cowardly. Like they lack the courage of their convictions. Well you can carry on being obtuse and banging the same old drum，at the end of the day you take that position because you know another vote will go against you, that's because most people now realise brexit is a terrible idea and bad for the UK. If you thought the vote would be the same as before or even more unanimous for leave then what are you worried about? It stands to reason
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| Matov 24 Apr 19 11.43am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
It stands to reason What 'reason'? June 23rd 2016 was a one off. We were told to consider our votes carefully because the result would be implemented. After we leave then campaign for us to rejoin. That is perfectly legimate. No issues around that. But to simply not want the vote on June 23rd honoured because you do not like the outcome is beyond mendacious. It is disgraceful. And you should be ashamed of yourself. Leave or Remain. That was the question. It was answered. End of story. And the answer given has to be acted upon.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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Teddy Eagle  24 Apr 19 11.55am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Astonishing. It does make you wonder how many remainers truly believe in their position or just say what they think they should.
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| Matov 24 Apr 19 12.07pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
It does make you wonder how many remainers truly believe in their position or just say what they think they should. It is this divide that is worrying me now. Yes, people have always had different opinions and expressed them forcibly but you always sensed that people were playing by the same basic rules. But now? I genuinely think that many on the Remain side would welcome a coup of some kind. That they would happily discard our democracy if it meant them retaining their 'European' status. We voted Leave, the A50 process was enshrined in law and we were due to leave on March 29th. But we are still in the EU. Something is rotten in our system and stinks.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| DANGERCLOSE London 24 Apr 19 12.21pm |
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Ann Widdecombe: Former Tory MP to stand for Brexit Party
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| Pussay Patrol 24 Apr 19 12.30pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
It is this divide that is worrying me now. Yes, people have always had different opinions and expressed them forcibly but you always sensed that people were playing by the same basic rules. But now? I genuinely think that many on the Remain side would welcome a coup of some kind. That they would happily discard our democracy if it meant them retaining their 'European' status. We voted Leave, the A50 process was enshrined in law and we were due to leave on March 29th. But we are still in the EU. Something is rotten in our system and stinks. Well exactly, we need change, Brexit has divided the nation and we need to unite the country again. As for democracy, this simply highlights that direct democracy doesn't work and the reason why don't have it. So yes, I'd happily discard it as it has damaged our nation
Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 Apr 19 12.37pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Well you can carry on being obtuse and banging the same old drum，at the end of the day you take that position because you know another vote will go against you, that's because most people now realise brexit is a terrible idea and bad for the UK. If you thought the vote would be the same as before or even more unanimous for leave then what are you worried about? It stands to reason Only in your bunker. How thick are the walls exactly?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 Apr 19 12.44pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Well exactly, we need change, Brexit has divided the nation and we need to unite the country again. As for democracy, this simply highlights that direct democracy doesn't work and the reason why don't have it. So yes, I'd happily discard it as it has damaged our nation What has damaged our nation is the dogma of Remainers after they lost the vote and the Parliamentary system.
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| DANGERCLOSE London 24 Apr 19 12.52pm |
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George Galloway
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| DANGERCLOSE London 24 Apr 19 12.53pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What has damaged our nation is the dogma of Remainers after they lost the vote and the Parliamentary system. Strongly Agree
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| dannyboy1978 24 Apr 19 4.06pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What has damaged our nation is the dogma of Remainers after they lost the vote and the Parliamentary system. They haven't even got the balls to revoke artical 50. It's like saying you won't get brexit so we will f*** it for everyone.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 24 Apr 19 4.19pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
I read that and it could have been from the Labour or Tories, same old bull. "A vote to build a stronger, fairer Britain that works for everyone"
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| Pussay Patrol 24 Apr 19 4.42pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Most senior elite Tories They prefer, less state, less regulation, more capitalist economy which favours the wealthy and drives us toward a 2 tier society as seen in the increase in homelessness， use of food banks, increases in crime due to cuts and child poverty since they came to power Edited by Pussay Patrol (24 Apr 2019 4.47pm)
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