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W12 26 Apr 19 1.45pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol From the article "he has been filmed making remarks including “Somalis are backward barbarians”, calling British Muslims “enemy combatants who want to kill you, maim you and destroy you”, and claiming refugees are “raping their way through the country" [Link] [Link] "They are said to be “the most business driven, violent and ruthless...”" Would you consider the 23,000 (known) UK Jihadists being tracked by our security forces as potential enemy combatants? (and not all just potentially given the number of thwarted attacks?). Some of these have come back fully trained from ISIS. "A 2011 analysis by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Command of 940 possible offenders reported for "street grooming and child sexual exploitation" found that 38% were white, 36% were Asian, while 32% were of an unknown ethnicity" Do you see a problem with these figures? In short how bad do things have to get before we are entitled by your standards to be worried? People are not looking for scapegoats, they just want to be able to discuss this without being labelled which is what TR is trying to achieve?

W12 26 Apr 19 1.45pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

From the article

"he has been filmed making remarks including “Somalis are backward barbarians”, calling British Muslims “enemy combatants who want to kill you, maim you and destroy you”, and claiming refugees are “raping their way through the country"

[Link]

"They are said to be “the most business driven, violent and ruthless...”"

Would you consider the 23,000 (known) UK Jihadists being tracked by our security forces as potential enemy combatants? (and not all just potentially given the number of thwarted attacks?). Some of these have come back fully trained from ISIS.

"A 2011 analysis by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Command of 940 possible offenders reported for "street grooming and child sexual exploitation" found that 38% were white, 36% were Asian, while 32% were of an unknown ethnicity"

Do you see a problem with these figures?

In short how bad do things have to get before we are entitled by your standards to be worried?

People are not looking for scapegoats, they just want to be able to discuss this without being labelled which is what TR is trying to achieve?

Hrolf The Ganger 26 Apr 19 2.05pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It's always nice to find some agreement among the thorns of disagreement! There is much that I too can agree with in your post. My concern though is not so much about the terminology as the effects. Understanding why some people feel uncomfortable only means we need to find ways to reassure them. Using rabble rousing rhetoric is not going to do that. It is likely to incite the already uncomfortable to become more so, and raise the possibility of direct confrontation with others who are actually no threat and cause further divisions. This is why I oppose Robinson and those who flock to his banner. But people have every reason to feel uncomfortable. We have Muslims pouring into this country year after year and producing children who are at risk of radicalisation. You can't just dismiss these concerns just because you believe that certain individuals use the situation to push their own type of radicalism. Whether they do or not does not alter the reasonable concerns of the many. In a previous post, you said the world would be better without religion. I 100% agree. But that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future and nor is cultural harmony. Human beings can't help but divide each other. They are tribal. We even fight over a game of football. There is no way that things will ever change. This country like so many other parts of the world will become a battleground for the young and deluded while the elites that created it laugh and pour another glass of Champagne.

Hrolf The Ganger

26 Apr 19 2.05pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's always nice to find some agreement among the thorns of disagreement!

There is much that I too can agree with in your post. My concern though is not so much about the terminology as the effects. Understanding why some people feel uncomfortable only means we need to find ways to reassure them. Using rabble rousing rhetoric is not going to do that. It is likely to incite the already uncomfortable to become more so, and raise the possibility of direct confrontation with others who are actually no threat and cause further divisions. This is why I oppose Robinson and those who flock to his banner.

But people have every reason to feel uncomfortable.

We have Muslims pouring into this country year after year and producing children who are at risk of radicalisation. You can't just dismiss these concerns just because you believe that certain individuals use the situation to push their own type of radicalism.
Whether they do or not does not alter the reasonable concerns of the many.

In a previous post, you said the world would be better without religion. I 100% agree. But that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future and nor is cultural harmony.
Human beings can't help but divide each other. They are tribal. We even fight over a game of football.

There is no way that things will ever change. This country like so many other parts of the world will become a battleground for the young and deluded while the elites that created it laugh and pour another glass of Champagne.

Hrolf The Ganger 26 Apr 19 2.08pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol You're not referring to any particular person or case just making daily mail-esque generalisations So you're just doing what Robinson does So the man who pumps out wild generalisations suddenly wants specifics when it suits him. Such an old tactic.

Hrolf The Ganger

26 Apr 19 2.08pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

You're not referring to any particular person or case just making daily mail-esque generalisations

So you're just doing what Robinson does

So the man who pumps out wild generalisations suddenly wants specifics when it suits him.

Such an old tactic.

Pussay Patrol 26 Apr 19 2.14pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger But people have every reason to feel uncomfortable. We have Muslims pouring into this country year after year and producing children who are at risk of radicalisation. You can't just dismiss these concerns just because you believe that certain individuals use the situation to push their own type of radicalism. Whether they do or not does not alter the reasonable concerns of the many. In a previous post, you said the world would be better without religion. I 100% agree. But that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future and nor is cultural harmony. Human beings can't help but divide each other. They are tribal. We even fight over a game of football. There is no way that things will ever change. This country like so many other parts of the world will become a battleground for the young and deluded while the elites that created it laugh and pour another glass of Champagne. Have you got evidence or statistics to justify this comment? Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

26 Apr 19 2.14pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

But people have every reason to feel uncomfortable.

Have you got evidence or statistics to justify this comment?

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Park Road 26 Apr 19 2.17pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Have you got evidence or statistics to justify this comment? Have you got evidence or statistics to contradict that comment?

Park Road

26 Apr 19 2.17pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Have you got evidence or statistics to justify this comment?

Have you got evidence or statistics to contradict that comment?

Hrolf The Ganger 26 Apr 19 2.18pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Have you got evidence or statistics to justify this comment? Yeah. Official population statistics and the ability to extrapolate the obvious. Are you having a laugh?

Hrolf The Ganger

26 Apr 19 2.18pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Have you got evidence or statistics to justify this comment?

Yeah. Official population statistics and the ability to extrapolate the obvious. Are you having a laugh?

Stirlingsays 26 Apr 19 2.23pm
Robinson never said all British Muslims 'want to kill you' and not for refugees or Somalis. This is just yet again another example of that proportion of the leftist media and their activists lying to others about Robinson. They are desperate....they pour over nearly ten years of nearly continual commentary looking for anything. Pretty much anything they come up with is out of context and presented unfairly. Anyone who genuinely watches Robinson and actually knows his positions on this is well aware that he doesn't put all of anything into one box. But people are willing to lie. Islam isn't a race and neither is it a nationality. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2019 2.25pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

26 Apr 19 2.23pm

Robinson never said all British Muslims 'want to kill you' and not for refugees or Somalis.

This is just yet again another example of that proportion of the leftist media and their activists lying to others about Robinson. They are desperate....they pour over nearly ten years of nearly continual commentary looking for anything. Pretty much anything they come up with is out of context and presented unfairly.

Anyone who genuinely watches Robinson and actually knows his positions on this is well aware that he doesn't put all of anything into one box.

But people are willing to lie.

Islam isn't a race and neither is it a nationality.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2019 2.25pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Pussay Patrol 26 Apr 19 2.31pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Yeah. Official population statistics and the ability to extrapolate the obvious. Are you having a laugh? Just asking you to substantiate what you say. It must come from somewhere? Explain how you conclude Muslims are 'pouring' into the country Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

26 Apr 19 2.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yeah. Official population statistics and the ability to extrapolate the obvious. Are you having a laugh?

Just asking you to substantiate what you say. It must come from somewhere? Explain how you conclude Muslims are 'pouring' into the country

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol 26 Apr 19 2.34pm
Originally posted by Park Road Have you got evidence or statistics to contradict that comment? So if I say grass is red everyone should accept grass is red as fact until someone else provides evidence that grass is actually green? Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

26 Apr 19 2.34pm

Originally posted by Park Road

Have you got evidence or statistics to contradict that comment?

So if I say grass is red everyone should accept grass is red as fact until someone else provides evidence that grass is actually green?

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Hrolf The Ganger 26 Apr 19 2.38pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Just asking you to substantiate what you say. It must come from somewhere? Explain how you conclude Muslims are 'pouring' into the country Don't waste our time with this diversionary codswallop. Use google.

Hrolf The Ganger

26 Apr 19 2.38pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Just asking you to substantiate what you say. It must come from somewhere? Explain how you conclude Muslims are 'pouring' into the country

Don't waste our time with this diversionary codswallop.

Use google.

Park Road 26 Apr 19 2.42pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol So if I say grass is red everyone should accept grass is red as fact until someone else provides evidence that grass is actually green? Yes without a doubt! You're not as stupid as you come across...or are you? Edited by Park Road (26 Apr 2019 2.45pm)

Park Road

26 Apr 19 2.42pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

So if I say grass is red everyone should accept grass is red as fact until someone else provides evidence that grass is actually green?

Yes without a doubt! You're not as stupid as you come across...or are you?

Edited by Park Road (26 Apr 2019 2.45pm)

Park Road 26 Apr 19 2.43pm
Originally posted by Park Road Y Edited by Park Road (26 Apr 2019 2.44pm)

Pussay Patrol 26 Apr 19 2.48pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Don't waste our time with this diversionary codswallop. Use google. OK. I Did a google search. Nothing about Muslims pouring in Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

26 Apr 19 2.48pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Don't waste our time with this diversionary codswallop.

Use google.

OK. I Did a google search. Nothing about Muslims pouring in

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Park Road 26 Apr 19 2.51pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol OK. I Did a google search. Nothing about Muslims pouring in Anything about Muslims not pouring in?

Park Road

26 Apr 19 2.51pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

OK. I Did a google search. Nothing about Muslims pouring in

Anything about Muslims not pouring in?

Stirlingsays 26 Apr 19 2.56pm
While things naturally veer off course from time to time We should probably try to veer back to Brexit. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

26 Apr 19 2.56pm

While things naturally veer off course from time to time We should probably try to veer back to Brexit.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

W12 26 Apr 19 3.03pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays While things naturally veer off course from time to time We should probably try to veer back to Brexit. Agreed

W12 26 Apr 19 3.03pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

While things naturally veer off course from time to time We should probably try to veer back to Brexit.

Agreed

Hrolf The Ganger 26 Apr 19 3.04pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays While things naturally veer off course from time to time We should probably try to veer back to Brexit. Yes, we have one whole thread to discuss absolutely everything that could possibly be related to immigration.

Hrolf The Ganger

26 Apr 19 3.04pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

While things naturally veer off course from time to time We should probably try to veer back to Brexit.

Yes, we have one whole thread to discuss absolutely everything that could possibly be related to immigration.

Hrolf The Ganger 26 Apr 19 3.07pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol OK. I Did a google search. Nothing about Muslims pouring in Did you actually search 'Muslims pouring in'? That might explain your lack of success. Now back to the tedium that is Brexit.

Hrolf The Ganger

26 Apr 19 3.07pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

OK. I Did a google search. Nothing about Muslims pouring in

Did you actually search 'Muslims pouring in'?

That might explain your lack of success.

Now back to the tedium that is Brexit.

Pussay Patrol 26 Apr 19 3.25pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Did you actually search 'Muslims pouring in'? That might explain your lack of success. Now back to the tedium that is Brexit. Yes,happy to draw a line in the sand here. I will just have to take what you say with a pinch of salt since you cannot substantiate your comments with facts Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

26 Apr 19 3.25pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Did you actually search 'Muslims pouring in'?

That might explain your lack of success.

Now back to the tedium that is Brexit.

Yes,happy to draw a line in the sand here. I will just have to take what you say with a pinch of salt since you cannot substantiate your comments with facts

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Stirlingsays 26 Apr 19 3.37pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Yes,happy to draw a line in the sand here. I will just have to take what you say with a pinch of salt since you cannot substantiate your comments with facts Apologies, now back to Brexit. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2019 3.38pm) Attachment: Growth.JPG (56.09Kb) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

26 Apr 19 3.37pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Yes,happy to draw a line in the sand here. I will just have to take what you say with a pinch of salt since you cannot substantiate your comments with facts

Apologies, now back to Brexit.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2019 3.38pm)

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