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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 19 6.29pm

Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE

Why? Because it's true.

No it isn't! It's a lie. A commonly believed lie but still a lie.

UK democracy lies solely in Parliament and is exercised via us voting in representatives.

Whatever MPs said before, during or after either the referendum, a manifesto or upon election can always be overturned by changing circumstances and second thoughts. That is the way our democracy works and should the MPs fail to act upon their consciences and try to give us what they believe we need and instead give us what we want, or what they promised in the past, then that would be anti-democratic.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Apr 19 7.18pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No it isn't! It's a lie. A commonly believed lie but still a lie.

UK democracy lies solely in Parliament and is exercised via us voting in representatives.

Whatever MPs said before, during or after either the referendum, a manifesto or upon election can always be overturned by changing circumstances and second thoughts. That is the way our democracy works and should the MPs fail to act upon their consciences and try to give us what they believe we need and instead give us what we want, or what they promised in the past, then that would be anti-democratic.

What a lot of self-serving nonsense.

We all know that you would not be saying this if you had won. Then it all be about the will of the people.

You are fooling no one.

 

.TUX. Flag 26 Apr 19 7.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What a lot of self-serving nonsense.

We all know that you would not be saying this if you had won. Then it all be about the will of the people.

You are fooling no one.

Bollox for short?
He can't even see what he done there re- democracy. Sadly he never will.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 26 Apr 19 7.57pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No it isn't! It's a lie. A commonly believed lie but still a lie.

UK democracy lies solely in Parliament and is exercised via us voting in representatives.

Whatever MPs said before, during or after either the referendum, a manifesto or upon election can always be overturned by changing circumstances and second thoughts. That is the way our democracy works and should the MPs fail to act upon their consciences and try to give us what they believe we need and instead give us what we want, or what they promised in the past, then that would be anti-democratic.

Dangerclose will believe any pro-brexit claptrap

 


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.TUX. Flag 26 Apr 19 8.44pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Dangerclose will believe any pro-brexit claptrap

And you have nothing to say regarding the utter tripe that you've responded to.

'Gammon' is all encompassing bud, even for 'Mini-O'Briens'.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 26 Apr 19 9.02pm

Originally posted by .TUX.



And you have nothing to say regarding the utter tripe that you've responded to.

'Gammon' is all encompassing bud, even for 'Mini-O'Briens'.

I think you summarise it better

 


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.TUX. Flag 26 Apr 19 9.04pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I think you summarise it better

That's you in a nutshell.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 19 9.41pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

An 'appalling statement'? It's from the census, like I stated. Different types of Asian are accounted for.

It's appalling wherever it comes from. That kind of terminology, especially when used by official sources, is one of the biggest reasons we have such problems.

By calling it a Mosque you were happy to give that impression when I had to research it to once again confirm that the truth isn't something you're that concerned with.....Just like you were happy for the authorities to cover up the Islamic rape gangs.

I used the term used locally, both by non Muslims and the Muslims who use it. As the authorities did not "cover up" any "Islamic rape gangs"there is nothing for me to be either happy or unhappy about. All that happened was a probable decision to handle crime quietly and without making a big divisive anti religion fuss about it. Just because decisions were made to follow a strategy that you almost certainly don't know anything about, but still disapprove of doesn't mean there was a "cover-up". Sometimes things are too sensitive to be allowed to escalate in the public perception. I recognise the downside of doing that, and that you would never approve of it in any circumstances, but I can understand why it might be needed.

If you find reality appalling then perhaps you shouldn't be moving to such a non diverse area.....An area that has been ethnically non diverse since Britain was created.

You are the one that moved to a non diverse area not me and you're the one who claims to love diversity.

I don't choose where I live because of it's diversity or lack of it! I just don't consider it! I chose it because of past associations, that my brother lives close by, the lack of heavy traffic and the beautiful countryside and coast. As I also love to sea fish it's ideal.

Asian wife eh....Like I thought, you took what you wanted and then surprise surprise you end up in one of the least diverse and nicest areas in the country.

I am not prepared to discuss how my relationship happened, where or why. It's none of your business. Suffice to say she is making a very significant contribution to the British economy.

Then you give it large about others being 'racist'.

I tell things as I see them but actually very rarely accuse anyone of being racist but if I do you can be sure it is richly deserved.

Judge people not by their words, but by their deeds.

I do. Maybe you should try harder to understand the words to see how they relate to the deeds.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2019 6.30pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 19 9.51pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What a lot of self-serving nonsense.

We all know that you would not be saying this if you had won. Then it all be about the will of the people.

You are fooling no one.

You are completely wrong. I have understood the way British democracy works for a very long time and have been a steadfast opponent of referendums for decades. Interestingly I heard a Radio 4 programme recently in which a "Leave" voter, who has since taken up studying a University course on politics, took exactly the same line as me, and said his studies had not changed his views on the EU but that the only way to handle it is via Parliament.

If we had decided to stay in but Parliament, in the light of subsequent events and their collective wisdom, decided that we needed to leave then I would support it. That's THEIR job. It isn't ours.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 26 Apr 19 9.54pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am not prepared to discuss how my relationship happened, where or why. It's none of your business. Suffice to say she is making a very significant contribution to the British economy.

You originally brought her up not me.

Anyway, if your blowhard performances on here are anything to go by she deserves a frigging medal.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2019 10.01pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Apr 19 9.58pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are completely wrong. I have understood the way British democracy works for a very long time and have been a steadfast opponent of referendums for decades. Interestingly I heard a Radio 4 programme recently in which a "Leave" voter, who has since taken up studying a University course on politics, took exactly the same line as me, and said his studies had not changed his views on the EU but that the only way to handle it is via Parliament.

If we had decided to stay in but Parliament, in the light of subsequent events and their collective wisdom, decided that we needed to leave then I would support it. That's THEIR job. It isn't ours.


Well, it stopped being their job when they called a referendum. You are perfectly entitled to argue that a referendum was a bad idea but you cannot then ignore it after the event.
Would you ignore an election if UKIP won?

You know you would.

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 26 Apr 19 10.05pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Dangerclose will believe any pro-brexit claptrap

Puss puss. You make me laugh with some of the hypocritical rubbish that you come out with

 

chris123 Flag hove actually 26 Apr 19 10.12pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are completely wrong. I have understood the way British democracy works for a very long time and have been a steadfast opponent of referendums for decades. Interestingly I heard a Radio 4 programme recently in which a "Leave" voter, who has since taken up studying a University course on politics, took exactly the same line as me, and said his studies had not changed his views on the EU but that the only way to handle it is via Parliament.

If we had decided to stay in but Parliament, in the light of subsequent events and their collective wisdom, decided that we needed to leave then I would support it. That's THEIR job. It isn't ours.

Their job is to hold the Government to account, make laws and represent us. We told them what to do and they haven't done it.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Apr 19 10.20pm

Originally posted by chris123

Their job is to hold the Government to account, make laws and represent us. We told them what to do and they haven't done it.

Usually they just don't ask. But always they do what suits them best.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 19 10.49pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


Well, it stopped being their job when they called a referendum. You are perfectly entitled to argue that a referendum was a bad idea but you cannot then ignore it after the event.
Would you ignore an election if UKIP won?

You know you would.

They aren't "ignoring" the referendum as any referendum is actually legally pointless in the UK. The big mistake was giving people the impression that because both major parties said they would respect it that meant they couldn't change their minds. Any referendum in the UK can only ever be advisory.

If by some very unlikely disaster UKIP ever won a majority I would weep in despair and work hard to ensure they were replaced asap but I most certainly would not ignore them.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 19 10.57pm

Originally posted by chris123

Their job is to hold the Government to account, make laws and represent us. We told them what to do and they haven't done it.

That is a typical misunderstanding of the role of an MP. They aren't delegates who go to Parliament to do what we have told them. They are representatives whose job it is to use their collective wisdom to reach decisions which they believe are in our best interests.

Our job is to choose who we want to represent us. That's all. If they don't meet our expectations then we choose another the next time.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Apr 19 11.09pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They aren't "ignoring" the referendum as any referendum is actually legally pointless in the UK. The big mistake was giving people the impression that because both major parties said they would respect it that meant they couldn't change their minds. Any referendum in the UK can only ever be advisory.

If by some very unlikely disaster UKIP ever won a majority I would weep in despair and work hard to ensure they were replaced asap but I most certainly would not ignore them.

Hiding behind technicalities again. Do you honestly believe that the government held a referendum intending to ignore the result?
No. They thought Remain would win easily and then realised what a big mistake they made.

None of this conversation would be taking place if Remain had won.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 27 Apr 19 4.07am

Sargon having fun in British politics.

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dannyboy1978 Flag 27 Apr 19 7.11am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That is a typical misunderstanding of the role of an MP. They aren't delegates who go to Parliament to do what we have told them. They are representatives whose job it is to use their collective wisdom to reach decisions which they believe are in our best interests.

Our job is to choose who we want to represent us. That's all. If they don't meet our expectations then we choose another the next time.

I keep hearing this dribble. "Vote them out"
When are the next local elections and when is brexit?

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 Apr 19 8.22am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am and there is always a very big attendance there on a Saturday for their prayers etc. It is always referred to locally as "the Mosque", even though it provides other services than the strictly religious.

Cornwall is 95.7% "white"! I think that an appalling statement. The colour of an individual's skin matters not a thing. How do you classify a Japanese, who has very white skin but is ethnically from Asia. My own wife is originally from Asia, and has a slightly browner skin than me. So what? Almost all Eastern Europeans, of whom there are many in Cornwall, have white skins, but most are immigrants, some Muslim.

Do you mean Friday prayers? Having lived in a muslim country for 3 years Friday was the prayer day

 

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