Just asking you to substantiate what you say. It must come from somewhere? Explain how you conclude Muslims are 'pouring' into the country

They aren't "ignoring" the referendum as any referendum is actually legally pointless in the UK. The big mistake was giving people the impression that because both major parties said they would respect it that meant they couldn't change their minds. Any referendum in the UK can only ever be advisory.

If by some very unlikely disaster UKIP ever won a majority I would weep in despair and work hard to ensure they were replaced asap but I most certainly would not ignore them.

That is a typical misunderstanding of the role of an MP. They aren't delegates who go to Parliament to do what we have told them. They are representatives whose job it is to use their collective wisdom to reach decisions which they believe are in our best interests.

Our job is to choose who we want to represent us. That's all. If they don't meet our expectations then we choose another the next time.

Do you mean Friday prayers? Having lived in a muslim country for 3 years Friday was the prayer day

Of the 1712 (and rising) pages, how many do you think are just Pussay Patrol and Wisbech Eagle talking complete bollox?

I reckon you could condense it down to about 1200.

I keep hearing this dribble. "Vote them out"
When are the next local elections and when is brexit?

There is nothing hidden. Neither British democratic practice nor the law are "technicalities". Of course the government didn't intend to ignore the result but the government are ultimately in the hands of the Parliament as has so comprehensively been proven. The world has turned a few times since the referendum and things are not looking the same. We all know more, not least the MPs.

You are quite right though. THIS conversation would not have taken place if Remain had won but another would be. Farage, who expected to lose, had already stated that the battle would go on. So don't try to pretend that those who voted Leave are some kind of martyrs being denied their "democratic" rights. This is British democracy in action and it's good to see Parliament doing it's job and not kowtowing to the government, messy though it is.

It isn't dribble. It's fact, but we all have to accept, you included, that other opinions might prove stronger than ours and that is the time it actually matters.

You claim that you have spent years abroad in Asia, are widely traveled, and love diversity.....Yet you didn't even know that the holy day of the week for Muslims is Friday?

Of course I know but as you pointed out this place is a community centre. I don't pass it very often and thought it was Saturdays when it looked busy, and that may well still be the case as there are lots of families gathering, but it may well have been on a Friday for their prayers.

It's difficult to take your claims very seriously or view your opinions on morality seriously when you were happy for news of those Islamic rape gangs to be suppressed for your perverse idea of a greater good.....that suppression prevented action.

It seems to me that you find any views that don't chime in line with your own difficult to take seriously. This tendency is highly resonant of your hero in the WH.

This goes along with your selective views on how democracy should work. Where you clearly think the public should be paying the wages of elites to ignore national referendum results......when they were promised that the result would be acted upon.

I won't repeat all the reasons why this view is wrong. Those "elites" by the way are the people voted to represent us and if enough of us don't approve of the job they do then it is entirely in our hands to change them. Not just you and other UKIP types. Us. All of us. No promise can ever be set in stone. If circumstances change then it is the duty of our representatives not to ignore the need to act.

Tell you what....If Corbyn wins the next election....Lets have a vote in the parliament and see if they think they should allow Corbyn to take over or not.

I sincerely hope they do. Labour, just like the Tories, has become a prisoner of it's own activists and no longer represents mainstream opinion.

If they vote no....that's fine, because they don't have to listen to the public if they don't like the result do they.

If a majority of Labour members refused to follow a leader they felt unfit to lead the country then they would be doing their duty. Every leader has to command the support of those whom they lead and cannot be foisted upon them by a wider membership. Having a Party leader outside of Parliament is different but inside it must be solely for the MPs to choose. I know that isn't how it works now but it surely ought to be.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Apr 2019 12.38pm)