Godwin!

Corbyn should stand down, and the Labour party hold another leadership election, and he should stand in it.

F**k the PLP they represent the most unrepresentative party in the history of labour. They couldn't win a leadership contest, and large sections of it have been bitching and sniping ever since.

Its pretty clear both the Conservative and Labour party have no real connection to how people think or feel. No doubt they plan to wheel out another Dead Milliband / Blairite middle class pandering corporate stooge.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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If you *really* want to go down that route (I can't believe someone started a Hitler comparison) it is probably a little unfair on old Adolf. He won the largest % of the vote for any party in a German election as well, not just the vote from the members of his own party.

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

If Labour go back to their core values they need to decide if this is left wing or working class. The two were once the same but the working class is quite right wing now.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

Andy Burnham, not quit yet. What a complete and utter repugnant excuse for an MP he is.

But he did cry real tears for the Hillsborough victims.

I see Burnham and Lammy in a cage fight screened on Channel 4 sometime in the future. The winner to face Diane Abbott on planet Triskelion.

I bid 400 quatloos on the newcomer.

Of all the resignation letters flying around I like this.

Honest, slef depreciating but hammering home a point.

No idea who she is mind

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His predicament is that he and his rag tag band of deluded far left wing supporters will effectively make Labour a political has been.
Labour will be the far left wing equivalent of the National Front.
Consigned to an archive of seventies failures.

Without necessarily disagreeing with any of your points, they do seem a bit unfair at the same time.

Re Brexit I think it is blatantly obvious that he did support Brexit. But he was forced to choose between the official position of his party and his personal views. And he chose to do what his party as a whole believed was right. I'm not even sure he was half-hearted when campagining, just that the media were much more interested in the Tory civil war.

And on the charisma point, yes you're right. But as you say he is the antithesis of everything people keep saying is wrong in politics. He is not a careerist. He isn't a media construct.

Jeremy Corbyn sort of proves that while everyone always said they hated and were fed up with politicians that were media-savvy, full of spin, and underhanded two-faced liars, really they got exactly what they wanted

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

Again you post opinion without backing it up.
I'll repeat again that what he stands for resonates with people of all political hues. Rail renationalisation, holding tax dodgers to account, investing in industry and housing to stimulate growth etc etc.
Whatever he does he is on a hiding to nothing in the press. The BBC are in trouble again today for misreporting what Tom Watson had actually done before taking the report down.
Thing is, whoever is in charge of Labour is on a hiding to nothing unless they offer watered down Tory policies. That isn't opposition, in fact it's the opposite.
Do what evidence, other than suppositions and pressure BS do you have to back up your claim.