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Pussay Patrol 03 May 19 3.36pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 How do you know this, I heard the opposite that they come here specifically because they can get away without paying. That was from an immigration officer. What's your source? Did they also say they get free money and a free flat and steal our jobs? Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

03 May 19 3.36pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

How do you know this, I heard the opposite that they come here specifically because they can get away without paying. That was from an immigration officer. What's your source?

Did they also say they get free money and a free flat and steal our jobs?

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

dannyboy1978 03 May 19 3.36pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Because the first one went so well. Are you totally bonkers? Worth repeating. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (03 May 2019 3.11pm) I thought it was only advisory lol

dannyboy1978

03 May 19 3.36pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Because the first one went so well.

Are you totally bonkers?

Worth repeating.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (03 May 2019 3.11pm)

I thought it was only advisory lol

dannyboy1978 03 May 19 3.38pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Did they also say they get free money and a free flat and steal our jobs? No, just that alot of Americans come for free hospital treatment.

dannyboy1978

03 May 19 3.38pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Did they also say they get free money and a free flat and steal our jobs?

No, just that alot of Americans come for free hospital treatment.

Pussay Patrol 03 May 19 3.49pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 No, just that alot of Americans come for free hospital treatment. Instead of listening to rumours or here say it's easy to do simple research. Only took a few minutes to find out health tourism was 0.3%, then your argument is fact based rather bulls*** Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

03 May 19 3.49pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

No, just that alot of Americans come for free hospital treatment.

Instead of listening to rumours or here say it's easy to do simple research. Only took a few minutes to find out health tourism was 0.3%, then your argument is fact based rather bulls***

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Hrolf The Ganger 03 May 19 4.05pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Instead of listening to rumours or here say it's easy to do simple research. Only took a few minutes to find out health tourism was 0.3%, then your argument is fact based rather bulls*** And you always believe official figures of course.

Hrolf The Ganger

03 May 19 4.05pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Instead of listening to rumours or here say it's easy to do simple research. Only took a few minutes to find out health tourism was 0.3%, then your argument is fact based rather bulls***

And you always believe official figures of course.

Teddy Eagle 03 May 19 4.23pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Aren't you in Scotland? Thought you got free prescriptions? Dentists and opticians are subsidised if your in a particular income bracket Yes, it costs, you pay tax and NI and you get that back. But you'd trade all that in because some people abuse it (0.3% of the budget when i checked). Don't we all lose then? Yes prescriptions are free in Scotland but not in England. NHS dentists haven’t been as available since the system was changed in 2006 and in some areas it’s hard to find one. A three visit course of treatment costs £269.30 in England. If you think that’s a bargain then you have more money than me.

Teddy Eagle

03 May 19 4.23pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Aren't you in Scotland? Thought you got free prescriptions? Dentists and opticians are subsidised if your in a particular income bracket

Yes, it costs, you pay tax and NI and you get that back. But you'd trade all that in because some people abuse it (0.3% of the budget when i checked). Don't we all lose then?

Yes prescriptions are free in Scotland but not in England.
NHS dentists haven’t been as available since the system was changed in 2006 and in some areas it’s hard to find one.
A three visit course of treatment costs £269.30 in England. If you think that’s a bargain then you have more money than me.

Badger11 Beckenham 03 May 19 4.33pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger And you always believe official figures of course. Anecdotal In the past health tourism has been under reported as people were registered as UK citizens by sympathetic NHS staff. I think today it's a lot harder but how many people are still getting treatment they are not entitled to because they got onto the list when there were no proper checks and I doubt anyone is going to back check. Come to think of it how many people are on the GP list who are dead or have moved away? Edited by Badger11 (03 May 2019 4.34pm) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 03 May 19 4.33pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And you always believe official figures of course.

Anecdotal

In the past health tourism has been under reported as people were registered as UK citizens by sympathetic NHS staff.

I think today it's a lot harder but how many people are still getting treatment they are not entitled to because they got onto the list when there were no proper checks and I doubt anyone is going to back check.

Come to think of it how many people are on the GP list who are dead or have moved away?

Edited by Badger11 (03 May 2019 4.34pm)

One more point

Spiderman Horsham 03 May 19 8.22pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Instead of listening to rumours or here say it's easy to do simple research. Only took a few minutes to find out health tourism was 0.3%, then your argument is fact based rather bulls*** Having worked as an Immigration Officer for 28 years I can assure you health tourism is not a rumour, if you choose to not believe it that is your perogative but I have seen it first hand on many many occasions. With regard to your previous comment....Yes many do arrive and immediately ask for a house and money...but presumably you know better than me

Spiderman

Horsham 03 May 19 8.22pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Instead of listening to rumours or here say it's easy to do simple research. Only took a few minutes to find out health tourism was 0.3%, then your argument is fact based rather bulls***

Having worked as an Immigration Officer for 28 years I can assure you health tourism is not a rumour, if you choose to not believe it that is your perogative but I have seen it first hand on many many occasions. With regard to your previous comment....Yes many do arrive and immediately ask for a house and money...but presumably you know better than me

Spiderman Horsham 03 May 19 8.28pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Anecdotal In the past health tourism has been under reported as people were registered as UK citizens by sympathetic NHS staff. I think today it's a lot harder but how many people are still getting treatment they are not entitled to because they got onto the list when there were no proper checks and I doubt anyone is going to back check. Come to think of it how many people are on the GP list who are dead or have moved away? Edited by Badger11 (03 May 2019 4.34pm) or indeed relatives. When trying to make enquiries many doctors refuse to give HO information and are quite happy for those not entitled to carry on receiving treatment. Emergency treatment has always been acceptable (ie road accidents) but long-term treatment for HIV, liver/heart complaints etc should not be condoned. PP hopefully you will always get any necessary treatment and not have to join a queue of people who have never contributed

Spiderman

Horsham 03 May 19 8.28pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Anecdotal

In the past health tourism has been under reported as people were registered as UK citizens by sympathetic NHS staff.

Come to think of it how many people are on the GP list who are dead or have moved away?

Edited by Badger11 (03 May 2019 4.34pm)

or indeed relatives.
When trying to make enquiries many doctors refuse to give HO information and are quite happy for those not entitled to carry on receiving treatment. Emergency treatment has always been acceptable (ie road accidents) but long-term treatment for HIV, liver/heart complaints etc should not be condoned. PP hopefully you will always get any necessary treatment and not have to join a queue of people who have never contributed

Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 03 May 19 9.25pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Having worked as an Immigration Officer for 28 years I can assure you health tourism is not a rumour, if you choose to not believe it that is your perogative but I have seen it first hand on many many occasions. With regard to your previous comment....Yes many do arrive and immediately ask for a house and money...but presumably you know better than me I think I read earlier in the week about a guy (presuming he was British) helping his American friends to leave there senile Dad here in the UK so that they wouldn't have to pick up the Tab & the UK taxpayer would instead. Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 03 May 19 9.25pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I think I read earlier in the week about a guy (presuming he was British) helping his American friends to leave there senile Dad here in the UK so that they wouldn't have to pick up the Tab & the UK taxpayer would instead.

Pro USA & Israel

Pussay Patrol 03 May 19 9.32pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Having worked as an Immigration Officer for 28 years I can assure you health tourism is not a rumour, if you choose to not believe it that is your perogative but I have seen it first hand on many many occasions. With regard to your previous comment....Yes many do arrive and immediately ask for a house and money...but presumably you know better than me you dispute the 0.3% number? Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Pussay Patrol

03 May 19 9.32pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

you dispute the 0.3% number?

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

dannyboy1978 04 May 19 12.06am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Instead of listening to rumours or here say it's easy to do simple research. Only took a few minutes to find out health tourism was 0.3%, then your argument is fact based rather bulls*** Don't Americans comprise of your 0.3 then?

dannyboy1978

04 May 19 12.06am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Instead of listening to rumours or here say it's easy to do simple research. Only took a few minutes to find out health tourism was 0.3%, then your argument is fact based rather bulls***

Don't Americans comprise of your 0.3 then?

dannyboy1978 04 May 19 12.11am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol you dispute the 0.3% number? No way is it 0.3 in London.

dannyboy1978

04 May 19 12.11am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

you dispute the 0.3% number?

No way is it 0.3 in London.

Teddy Eagle 04 May 19 12.15am
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 No way is it 0.3 in London. I wouldn’t be as bothered about the number of health tourists as the number of doctors in London who can’t speak English properly. I didn’t see a doctor for forty years who had English as a first language. Worked out well when one signed me off for a month because he didn’t understand what I had told him.

Teddy Eagle

04 May 19 12.15am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

No way is it 0.3 in London.

I wouldn’t be as bothered about the number of health tourists as the number of doctors in London who can’t speak English properly. I didn’t see a doctor for forty years who had English as a first language. Worked out well when one signed me off for a month because he didn’t understand what I had told him.

cryrst The garden of England 04 May 19 6.48am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Yes prescriptions are free in Scotland but not in England. NHS dentists haven’t been as available since the system was changed in 2006 and in some areas it’s hard to find one. A three visit course of treatment costs £269.30 in England. If you think that’s a bargain then you have more money than me. Its around £50 Nhs with payment. Most dentists offer this service.

cryrst

The garden of England 04 May 19 6.48am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Its around £50
Nhs with payment.
Most dentists offer this service.

Spiderman Horsham 04 May 19 7.24am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol you dispute the 0.3% number? Yes I do but unfortunately I have no OFFICIAL figures to back this up just a whole lot of experience so presumably you wont believe me but I know what I know

Spiderman

Horsham 04 May 19 7.24am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

you dispute the 0.3% number?

Yes I do but unfortunately I have no OFFICIAL figures to back this up just a whole lot of experience so presumably you wont believe me but I know what I know

Spiderman Horsham 04 May 19 7.33am
Originally posted by Spiderman Yes I do but unfortunately I have no OFFICIAL figures to back this up just a whole lot of experience so presumably you wont believe me but I know what I know A LEADING cancer specialist believes one in every 20 patients he treated as a consultant at London’s Royal Marsden Hospital was a health tourist.Dr Meirion Thomas said the number of health tourists was “grossly underrated” and estimated the true cost of ineligible foreign patients using the NHS to be £2 billion a year. A voice from the inside for you PP. Just maybe official figures are underestimated but of course, you agree with official figures when they meet with your agenda

Spiderman

Horsham 04 May 19 7.33am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Yes I do but unfortunately I have no OFFICIAL figures to back this up just a whole lot of experience so presumably you wont believe me but I know what I know

A LEADING cancer specialist believes one in every 20 patients he treated as a consultant at London’s Royal Marsden Hospital was a health tourist.Dr Meirion Thomas said the number of health tourists was “grossly underrated” and estimated the true cost of ineligible foreign patients using the NHS to be £2 billion a year.

A voice from the inside for you PP. Just maybe official figures are underestimated but of course, you agree with official figures when they meet with your agenda

Spiderman Horsham 04 May 19 7.42am
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Stirlingsays 04 May 19 10.38am
I'll make a prediction. I can only see the pure party loyalists out there voting Tory or Labour. The Brexit party will win by taking most of the Ukip and a large chunk of the Tory vote.....and the remain vote will mostly go to either Change or the Liberals......Probably more the liberals because they were always remain. It makes sense for either leave or remain to choose one party and not split their vote....even if they have to hold their nose a bit. I guess we will see how that pans out. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2019 10.40am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

04 May 19 10.38am

I'll make a prediction.

I can only see the pure party loyalists out there voting Tory or Labour.

The Brexit party will win by taking most of the Ukip and a large chunk of the Tory vote.....and the remain vote will mostly go to either Change or the Liberals......Probably more the liberals because they were always remain.

It makes sense for either leave or remain to choose one party and not split their vote....even if they have to hold their nose a bit. I guess we will see how that pans out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2019 10.40am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 May 19 10.51am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I'll make a prediction. I can only see the pure party loyalists out there voting Tory or Labour. The Brexit party will win by taking most of the Ukip and a large chunk of the Tory vote.....and the remain vote will mostly go to either Change or the Liberals......Probably more the liberals because they were always remain. It makes sense for either leave or remain to choose one party and not split their vote....even if they have to hold their nose a bit. I guess we will see how that pans out. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2019 10.40am) I wholeheartedly concur and Farage will be beaming like a TV gameshow dollybird the next morning. The final humiliation is now being delivered upon us in the form of the European elections – elections to an institution we voted to leave three years ago. These negotiations have become a national humiliation and a joke. It is May that has allowed this to happen. We Tories need a new leader who may not be able to change the Commons numbers overnight, but can bring a vision, win hearts and minds and believes in a Global Brexit. Edited by Willo (04 May 2019 10.54am)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 04 May 19 10.51am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'll make a prediction.

I can only see the pure party loyalists out there voting Tory or Labour.

The Brexit party will win by taking most of the Ukip and a large chunk of the Tory vote.....and the remain vote will mostly go to either Change or the Liberals......Probably more the liberals because they were always remain.

It makes sense for either leave or remain to choose one party and not split their vote....even if they have to hold their nose a bit. I guess we will see how that pans out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 May 2019 10.40am)

I wholeheartedly concur and Farage will be beaming like a TV gameshow dollybird the next morning.

The final humiliation is now being delivered upon us in the form of the European elections – elections to an institution we voted to leave three years ago. These negotiations have become a national humiliation and a joke. It is May that has allowed this to happen. We Tories need a new leader who may not be able to change the Commons numbers overnight, but can bring a vision, win hearts and minds and believes in a Global Brexit.

Edited by Willo (04 May 2019 10.54am)

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