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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 May 19 9.58am

Originally posted by Badger11

Ridiculous providing these staff are working in the NHS they should get treatment free they will be paying taxes.

On the subject of charging I cannot understand why nurses have to pay to be trained. As long as they pass and work in the NHS for say 5 years then I would cancel their tuition fees. We need to encourage more people into the system not the other way around.

Yep.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 05 May 19 10.01am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Willo May isn't the problem, it just she is always in the line of fire, people are fed up with the whole political establishment.

All your conservative chums are incompetent buffoons and not fit to govern

Agreed.

Thank god we have Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnell towering over the rest of the pygmies they never make a mistake. Or as Nick Ferrari put it what has the Marxist leader of a party riven with anti-Semitism to offer the country.

By the way Abbott is not the only one who has problems with numbers on election night McDonnell predicted Labour would increase their seats by 400! Hmmm

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 May 19 10.04am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Only because of leadsome’s comment that May doesn’t have children so couldn’t something over Brexit and how the future matters to parents or something. The press got in and spun it more to mean Leadsome meant May can’t have children, which she can’t.

I’d have wanted Leadsome for what is a term to just oversee Brexit, and even though she had little to no govt/ministerial experience, there’s been precious little of it anyway.

There were also claims that she doctored her CV and she was subject to a level of scrutiny she had never experienced before.She also received some strident text messages from colleagues criticising her and it would have been hard for her to govern without reliable backing from Tory MPs, even if the members had been enraptured.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 May 19 12.15pm

A snap survey of Conservative members has revealed that 82% want May to go and for a leadership election to start immediately.Certainly this echoes the views of my numerous Tory cronies.

 

Pussay Patrol Flag 05 May 19 12.21pm

Originally posted by Willo

A snap survey of Conservative members has revealed that 82% want May to go and for a leadership election to start immediately.Certainly this echoes the views of my numerous Tory cronies.

The electorate want you all to go

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 May 19 12.28pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The electorate want you all to go

Extrapolation from the local election results have Conservatives AND Labour on 28%.
Both parties in troubled waters.

Edited by Willo (05 May 2019 12.30pm)

 

DANGERCLOSE Flag London 05 May 19 1.02pm

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 05 May 19 1.31pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol


The electorate want you all to go

I agree. Let's have a General Election now and get Nigel Farage and his Brexit Party into power so we can finally get what the majority voted for

 

DANGERCLOSE Flag London 05 May 19 1.38pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I agree. Let's have a General Election now and get Nigel Farage and his Brexit Party into power so we can finally get what the majority voted for

Agreed

 

Stirlingsays Flag 05 May 19 1.57pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The electorate want you all to go

That doesn't make any sense.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 May 19 3.05pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The electorate want you all to go

Link?

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 May 19 3.33pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Ridiculous providing these staff are working in the NHS they should get treatment free they will be paying taxes.

On the subject of charging I cannot understand why nurses have to pay to be trained. As long as they pass and work in the NHS for say 5 years then I would cancel their tuition fees. We need to encourage more people into the system not the other way around.

As my wife is currently a student nurse I can clarify this for you. Nursing used to be grant based but now, like so many other university courses, asks the students to pay via a "student loan". The idea that this is a loan, as most of us understand it, is incorrect. It is really a type of increased taxation to be paid by the highest earners. Only when a graduate qualifies and starts to earn above a threshold will they even start repaying the "loan". This remains a small figure for moderate earners and any balance is eventually wiped out if you don't reach very high earnings. It's a way of ensuring that those who gain the most from their education pay for it, and that's very unlikely to impact any but the most senior nurses. The downside is that there is a sword of Damocles hanging over their heads for 30 years!

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 05 May 19 4.04pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The electorate want you all to go

They do indeed, had enough of the Tories and Labour, as the voting shows.

Those nice moderate Lib Dems have really upset the apple-cart.

Spinning the results away from the winning remain parties will only show the bust system for what it is.

The remain vote, now about 60% minimum and increasing, have not had anyone to vote for.

'Fromage not Farage'.


 

Stirlingsays Flag 05 May 19 4.20pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

The remain vote, now about 60% minimum and increasing, have not had anyone to vote for.

'Fromage not Farage'.


We will soon see.

Personally I think you are going to get Fromaged.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 May 19 4.25pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

They do indeed, had enough of the Tories and Labour, as the voting shows.

Those nice moderate Lib Dems have really upset the apple-cart.

Spinning the results away from the winning remain parties will only show the bust system for what it is.

The remain vote, now about 60% minimum and increasing, have not had anyone to vote for.

'Fromage not Farage'.

Indeed the electorate at this present juncture have no enthusiasm for the two main parties and the Lib Dems benefitted because they are not Conservative or Labour.They hoovered up the protest vote as did the Greens and to an extent the Independents and Resident groups.

Edited by Willo (05 May 2019 4.30pm)

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 05 May 19 5.07pm

Originally posted by steeleye20


'Fromage not Farage'.


You keep posting that. is it a reminder of how much we wish to get away from cheese eating surrender monkeys?

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 05 May 19 5.10pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As my wife is currently a student nurse I can clarify this for you. Nursing used to be grant based but now, like so many other university courses, asks the students to pay via a "student loan". The idea that this is a loan, as most of us understand it, is incorrect. It is really a type of increased taxation to be paid by the highest earners. Only when a graduate qualifies and starts to earn above a threshold will they even start repaying the "loan". This remains a small figure for moderate earners and any balance is eventually wiped out if you don't reach very high earnings. It's a way of ensuring that those who gain the most from their education pay for it, and that's very unlikely to impact any but the most senior nurses. The downside is that there is a sword of Damocles hanging over their heads for 30 years!

So I would be correct in saying that even if the nurse never pays the loan back as her salary doesn't hit that level it will still count against her for things like mortgage and loan applications.

Just seems an unnecessary burden for people working in a vital sector of our economy.

 


One more point

Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 May 19 6.54pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

They do indeed, had enough of the Tories and Labour, as the voting shows.

Those nice moderate Lib Dems have really upset the apple-cart.

Spinning the results away from the winning remain parties will only show the bust system for what it is.

The remain vote, now about 60% minimum and increasing, have not had anyone to vote for.

'Fromage not Farage'.


As PP would say.... can we have facts please and a link

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 05 May 19 6.57pm

Originally posted by Badger11

So I would be correct in saying that even if the nurse never pays the loan back as her salary doesn't hit that level it will still count against her for things like mortgage and loan applications.

Just seems an unnecessary burden for people working in a vital sector of our economy.

They claimed not but it does. My daughter did a Masters in Aerospace engineering and came away with 1st class honours but with in excess of £50000 debt. This had to be included in her mortgage application.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 05 May 19 7.45pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

They claimed not but it does. My daughter did a Masters in Aerospace engineering and came away with 1st class honours but with in excess of £50000 debt. This had to be included in her mortgage application.

Kudos.....that's certainly something to be proud of in the family.

 


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