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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 May 17 12.08am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As a generalization the elderly will vote Tory regardless because they remember the seventies and secondly because they instinctively don't like people who stood up for the IRA when they were murdering our soldiers....and basically promoted any anti western movement out there.

Corbyn has no chance in hell with the elderly and he knows it.


I think the 'and you/he/she/they know/s it' line is getting as dull as strong unstable.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 May 17 12.13am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So if a BNP member starts running stuff we are all ok with it.

All very progressive.

It was us 'progressives' wot got your red card rescinded. Remember that.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 May 17 7.19am

Originally posted by steeleye20

The tories are beyond the pale.

Elderly will have to pay for their own social care - tory manifesto.

Explain exactly what you mean by that?

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 May 17 7.23am

Originally posted by nickgusset

And you are Beyonce

It was late and I forgive you for that appalling retort.`

 

Stirlingsays Flag 18 May 17 7.28am

Originally posted by nickgusset

It was us 'progressives' wot got your red card rescinded. Remember that.

Come on Nick.

You know I was grateful for that.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 May 17 7.37am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Explain exactly what you mean by that?

You get dumped if you can't afford it.

Reality hurts.

 

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 18 May 17 7.41am

Just watch Jeremy Hunt on the BBC. Awful interview not in the Diane Abbott mouldy but pretty shocking none the less.

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 May 17 7.42am

Originally posted by steeleye20

You get dumped if you can't afford it.

Reality hurts.

Dumped?
Please explain this policy in detail because I have always thought that those that can afford to fund their old age should do so.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 May 17 7.45am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Just watch Jeremy Hunt on the BBC. Awful interview not in the Diane Abbott mouldy but pretty shocking none the less.

And to think that people didn't reckon Michael Portillo much once upon a time. How standards have dropped in politics and at a time when there are so many more ways to look like a tit.

 

Mstrobez Flag 18 May 17 9.52am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Just watch Jeremy Hunt on the BBC. Awful interview not in the Diane Abbott mouldy but pretty shocking none the less.

This is one of my points, the tories seem as chaotic as labour to me. They've also over the past however long made many miscalculations in interviews and got the figures completely wrong but no one seems to pick up on it. Whether you believe in media bias or not I think it's a fact that the tories never face nearly the same scrutiny on economic policies as labour and people generally just assume that with the economy they always have it under control. Taking a look at the national debt, id suggest the opposite has occurred.

 


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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 18 May 17 10.14am

Originally posted by pefwin

Hmm many do including the UK until Blair separated the BoE from the State.

Metaphorically, they can still print money through policies like QE.

Actually the government does own the printing press. This is evidenced by the governments accounts where they cancel government debt held by the BoE. The UBO of both the government and the BoE is the state.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 18 May 17 10.16am

Originally posted by steeleye20

You get dumped if you can't afford it.

Reality hurts.

Im afraid its all about the pound note with this lot and old people are unfortunately a drain on the bullingdon clubs share out!

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 18 May 17 10.33am

Originally posted by susmik

It is not only me that thinks Corbyns manifesto will kill this country:

"BUSINESS grandee and former Labour Minister Digby Jones claims “ignorant” Jeremy Corbyn will spark an exodus from Britain.
He has said Labour leader’s barmy manifesto would bankrupt the country.
And he said: “If this guy becomes Prime Minister the best shares to buy would be British Airways because of all the people who’ll be buying one-way tickets out of the country.”

Referring to yesterday’s manifesto launch, he said: “I watched it open mouthed.
“Anybody under the age of 45 will forget what it was like when Socialists last had their hand in the cookie jar.”
And he went on: “But the IMF ran the country, and when they didn’t the trade unions did.
The strikes were so bad you couldn’t bury the dead.”
He added: “When I watched today I thought this guy is living in another world.
He says he’ll nationalise the water industry. How? By issuing bonds.”
Issuing bonds doesn’t mean you don’t have to pay, it just means you’re delaying it. It’s incredible ignorance.”

Tim Knox of the Centre for Policy Studies said Britain would become the “sick man of Europe” under Labour.
He said: “Labour would take us straight back to the 1970s: penal tax rates, union domination, economic chaos. The UK would be badly governed, badly managed and badly behaved.
“The best and brightest would leave. Graduates, footballers and entrepreneurs would be the first to go, followed by scientists, artists and businessmen and women.
Each person who leaves would not only stop paying income tax but they would also stop buying things from the shops and would stop employing
skilled labour.”

Now as for saying my analysis is asinine I think you are the one that is brain washed and not thinking straight. You are so Labour you cannot see the wood for the trees. Its a good job former Labour Minister Digby Jones has seen the light because you certainly have not and it is a waste of time debating with you as so many others in this thread have realised.

The Centre for Policy Studies is a Conservative mouthpiece whose aims include the rolling back of the state. So they are hardly partisan.

Digby Jones is a Baron who represents big business and has significant vested interests.

I'm not "so Labour". I'm perfectly willing to debate and I look forward to looking at the merits of the Conservative manifesto. I don't agree with everything in the manifesto, but I'm convinced that the Tories have done a bad job on the economy and that austerity and cuts to public spending at times when the economy is depressed is damaging. I'm also convinced that they are liars and that they have used austerity ideologically while claiming it was the medicine we all needed. I also firmly believe that the levels of inequality we have are damaging. I'd vote Lib Dem if I thought they had a better chance of winning than Labour.

Personally I would probably be better off under the Tories in terms of take home pay, at least in the short term, but I believe that I would rather live in a fairer more prosperous country where work is properly rewarded and people pay their fair share.

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 18 May 17 10.43am

Originally posted by Bert the Head

Our media is sick. Private Eye is much better than the Telegraph, Daily Mail, The Sun and the Evening Standard. Most of our papers are run by rich people to support the interests of rich people. They are con artists.

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The link is a bit of a rant but it raises a good point about the illusion of a free press.

And then you have editors of certain papers with large circulations who went to Eton, aren't journalists and was a Tory chancellor who oversaw failed economic policy dressed up as success. I wonder what unbiased musings we will be seeing from that paper.

 

Lyons550 Flag Shirley 18 May 17 11.00am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

There are multi-nationals who don't care what the tax rate is as they manage to avoid paying it or agreeing sweetheart deals with the government.

..I think this is a key issue for me...whoever is in power. It's time for the corporations to pay their way...whether that's a cue to reduce Corp tax and meet them in the middle in order to do so clearly needs further discussion; but whatever it is has to be paid in FULL

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 May 17 11.24am

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Tory Jesus.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 18 May 17 12.11pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

This is one of my points, the tories seem as chaotic as labour to me. They've also over the past however long made many miscalculations in interviews and got the figures completely wrong but no one seems to pick up on it. Whether you believe in media bias or not I think it's a fact that the tories never face nearly the same scrutiny on economic policies as labour and people generally just assume that with the economy they always have it under control. Taking a look at the national debt, id suggest the opposite has occurred.

Truthfully? You honestly regard the Tories as just as much as a mess as Labour...Wow...I think you have a case of rose tinted there.

Na, when it comes to talent Labour just aren't doing well....the days of Robin Cook are long gone....their quota system ensures that there is less room for talent over whether your gender fits.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 18 May 17 12.13pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Tory Jesus.

Man, that was funny.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 18 May 17 12.18pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

The Centre for Policy Studies is a Conservative mouthpiece whose aims include the rolling back of the state. So they are hardly partisan.

Digby Jones is a Baron who represents big business and has significant vested interests.

I'm not "so Labour". I'm perfectly willing to debate and I look forward to looking at the merits of the Conservative manifesto. I don't agree with everything in the manifesto, but I'm convinced that the Tories have done a bad job on the economy and that austerity and cuts to public spending at times when the economy is depressed is damaging. I'm also convinced that they are liars and that they have used austerity ideologically while claiming it was the medicine we all needed. I also firmly believe that the levels of inequality we have are damaging. I'd vote Lib Dem if I thought they had a better chance of winning than Labour.

Personally I would probably be better off under the Tories in terms of take home pay, at least in the short term, but I believe that I would rather live in a fairer more prosperous country where work is properly rewarded and people pay their fair share.

Excellent. Do you have an address for them so that I can send a donation?

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 18 May 17 12.21pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Truthfully? You honestly regard the Tories as just as much as a mess as Labour...Wow...I think you have a case of rose tinted there.

Na, when it comes to talent Labour just aren't doing well....the days of Robin Cook are long gone....their quota system ensures that there is less room for talent over whether your gender fits.

Are you saying he wasn't a ginger, scottish midget?

 


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