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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 29 Jun 16 2.45pm
According to party rules, Corbyn (as the incumbent who is not resigning) will automatically be on the ballot. He doesn't even need to secure the 30+ MPs backing him. It's not inconceivable that his support amongst the membership - which was overwhelming 9 months ago - could have collapsed. But is is pretty unlikely. So I would say there is a very good chance he will be re-elected as leader. I see Labour MPs therefore having two options: 1. Splinter and set up their own centre-left party or 2. Accept Corbyn, and let him fight the next general election, assuming it is in the autumn. If they chose 2, then they have to just shut-the-fcuk-up because if they don't and continue the back-biting then he will have an argument for why he loses. If they do stay quiet and relatively supportive then the only two scenarios are a) he wins (which appears unlikely) or b) he loses and all but his closest allies start to drift away accepting that his hard-left policies aren't going to win. But keep mouthing off and stabbing him in the back and I think he could keep clinging on. "It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

OknotOK

Cockfosters, London 29 Jun 16 2.45pm

According to party rules, Corbyn (as the incumbent who is not resigning) will automatically be on the ballot. He doesn't even need to secure the 30+ MPs backing him.

It's not inconceivable that his support amongst the membership - which was overwhelming 9 months ago - could have collapsed. But is is pretty unlikely.

So I would say there is a very good chance he will be re-elected as leader.

I see Labour MPs therefore having two options: 1. Splinter and set up their own centre-left party or 2. Accept Corbyn, and let him fight the next general election, assuming it is in the autumn.

If they chose 2, then they have to just shut-the-fcuk-up because if they don't and continue the back-biting then he will have an argument for why he loses. If they do stay quiet and relatively supportive then the only two scenarios are a) he wins (which appears unlikely) or b) he loses and all but his closest allies start to drift away accepting that his hard-left policies aren't going to win.

But keep mouthing off and stabbing him in the back and I think he could keep clinging on.

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Jun 16 2.53pm
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Back to Corbyn thread: Pat Glass, Shadow Education Secretary for all of two days, has just resigned citing Corbyn debacle as main reason. That must be a record: TWO days! Pat Glass is retiring soon anyhow. But I think a leadership contest is inevitable now, and he probably should step down, and take it to the same system of selection. if he can win it, he's pretty much in a position to eliminate the PLP influence for a generation. I can see a lot of the same support he achieved last time, coming to the fore what with the exit and tory position. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 29 Jun 16 2.53pm

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Back to Corbyn thread: Pat Glass, Shadow Education Secretary for all of two days, has just resigned citing Corbyn debacle as main reason. That must be a record: TWO days!

Pat Glass is retiring soon anyhow.

But I think a leadership contest is inevitable now, and he probably should step down, and take it to the same system of selection. if he can win it, he's pretty much in a position to eliminate the PLP influence for a generation. I can see a lot of the same support he achieved last time, coming to the fore what with the exit and tory position.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Jun 16 2.55pm
Originally posted by OknotOK I see Labour MPs therefore having two options: 1. Splinter and set up their own centre-left party or 2. Accept Corbyn, and let him fight the next general election, assuming it is in the autumn.. Big gamble, because its likely that the Unions could go either way, and Labour is very much dependent on Union support and funding. Plus that new party would have to compete with the Greens and Lib Dems... Its a long way from starting a new party to getting a MP. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 29 Jun 16 2.55pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

I see Labour MPs therefore having two options: 1. Splinter and set up their own centre-left party or 2. Accept Corbyn, and let him fight the next general election, assuming it is in the autumn..

Big gamble, because its likely that the Unions could go either way, and Labour is very much dependent on Union support and funding. Plus that new party would have to compete with the Greens and Lib Dems...

Its a long way from starting a new party to getting a MP.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

chris123 hove actually 29 Jun 16 2.55pm
Originally posted by nickgusset A friend posted this in an email. it may of course all be nonsense. "It now emerges that Hilary Benn and Angela Eagle have been secretly briefing against Jeremy Corbyn for the last 9 months. They have constantly fed information to Laura Kuenssberg and the Murdoch press corps about pending coups and dissatisfaction in the Parliamentary Party.They were planning to move against him on several occasions and chickened out'. The debate on the RAF bombing intervention on Syria on the 2.12.15 was to be the preliminary opportunity for Benn to strike by speaking out against the Labour line ( which he did to much Tory applause). This was to be followed up by a no confidence motion after the loss of the Oldham by-election which was confidently predicted by the Murdoch press.The plot fell apart when the Oldham by-election was won by Labour, with UKIP in second place and the Tories beaten into third. Their next attempt was when Shadow Foreign Minister,Stephen Doughty,resigned on air during the BBC's Daily Politics programme on 7.1.16,just before Prime Ministers Questions. Kuenssberg had been briefed by the plotters beforehand and she had fed this information to David Cameron who announced it during PM's Questions to the surprise of the Labour benches. This plot to usurp Jeremy also fell apart. All of Kuenssberg's reports which began with 'a senior Labour spokesman told me....etc.' came from the offices of Benn and Eagle. Kuenssberg was also informed about the present debacle. The conspirators had received news that Corbyn would suggest the impeachment of Tony Blair if the soon to be published Chilcott report on the Iraq war showed any basis of 'war crimes'. The conspirators decided they had to pre-empt this attack on Blair. It was agreed that Benn would initiate the attack on Corbyn. He awoke Corbyn in the early hours of Sunday morning 26.6.16 with a phone call to inform him of his intention to attack him publicly with a statement of his lack of confidence in his leadership. Corbyn had no option but to remove him from post.The plan was then to organise a series of resignations with one being announced roughly every 2 hours to give the impression of a growing revolt. This was designed to keep it in the public eye and they would hopefully then encourage others not involved in the plot to join the bandwagon if they thought the ship was sinking.Initially there were 10 Shadow cabinet members recruited. and Eagles was to be the last one to declare in order to separate any association between Benn and herself.She would make a tearful, on-line resignation speech underlining Jeremy's honesty and goodness but saying he had no leadership skills. "OH ! WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN FIRST WE PRACTICE TO DECEIVE" I don't remember anybody predicting the loss of Oldham - reduced majority maybe after Michael Meacher died.

chris123

hove actually 29 Jun 16 2.55pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

A friend posted this in an email. it may of course all be nonsense.

"It now emerges that Hilary Benn and Angela Eagle have been secretly briefing against Jeremy Corbyn for the last 9 months. They have constantly fed information to Laura Kuenssberg and the Murdoch press corps about pending coups and dissatisfaction in the Parliamentary Party.They were planning to move against him on several occasions and chickened out'. The debate on the RAF bombing intervention on Syria on the 2.12.15 was to be the preliminary opportunity for Benn to strike by
speaking out against the Labour line ( which he did to much Tory
applause). This was to be followed up by a no confidence motion after
the loss of the Oldham by-election which was confidently predicted by
the Murdoch press.The plot fell apart when the Oldham by-election was won by Labour, with UKIP in second place and the Tories beaten into third.
Their next attempt was when Shadow Foreign Minister,Stephen Doughty,resigned on air during the BBC's Daily Politics programme on 7.1.16,just before Prime Ministers Questions. Kuenssberg had been briefed by the plotters beforehand and she had fed this information to David Cameron who announced it during PM's Questions to the surprise of the Labour benches.
This plot to usurp Jeremy also fell apart.
All of Kuenssberg's reports which began with 'a senior Labour spokesman
told me....etc.' came from the offices of Benn and Eagle.
Kuenssberg was also informed about the present debacle. The conspirators had received news that Corbyn would suggest the impeachment of Tony Blair if the soon to be published Chilcott report on the Iraq war showed any basis of 'war crimes'. The conspirators decided they had to pre-empt this attack on Blair. It was agreed that Benn would initiate the attack on Corbyn. He awoke Corbyn in the early hours of Sunday morning 26.6.16 with a phone call to inform him of his intention to attack him publicly with a statement of his lack of confidence in his leadership. Corbyn had
no option but to remove him from post.The plan was then to organise a series of resignations with one being announced roughly every 2 hours to give the impression of a growing revolt. This was designed to keep it in the public eye and they would hopefully then encourage others not involved in the plot to join the bandwagon if they thought the ship was sinking.Initially there were 10 Shadow cabinet members recruited. and Eagles was to be the last one to declare in order to separate any association between Benn and herself.She would make a tearful, on-line resignation speech underlining Jeremy's honesty and goodness but saying he had no leadership skills.
"OH ! WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN FIRST WE PRACTICE TO DECEIVE"

I don't remember anybody predicting the loss of Oldham - reduced majority maybe after Michael Meacher died.

OknotOK Cockfosters, London 29 Jun 16 2.58pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Big gamble, because its likely that the Unions could go either way, and Labour is very much dependent on Union support and funding. Plus that new party would have to compete with the Greens and Lib Dems... Its a long way from starting a new party to getting a MP. Agreed, which is why I think the 2nd is the best option. If you believe he is that bad then let him have the rope.... "It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

OknotOK

Cockfosters, London 29 Jun 16 2.58pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Its a long way from starting a new party to getting a MP.

Agreed, which is why I think the 2nd is the best option. If you believe he is that bad then let him have the rope....

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

Sportyteacher London 29 Jun 16 3.00pm
Originally posted by OknotOK According to party rules, Corbyn (as the incumbent who is not resigning) will automatically be on the ballot. He doesn't even need to secure the 30+ MPs backing him. It's not inconceivable that his support amongst the membership - which was overwhelming 9 months ago - could have collapsed. But is is pretty unlikely. So I would say there is a very good chance he will be re-elected as leader. I see Labour MPs therefore having two options: 1. Splinter and set up their own centre-left party or 2. Accept Corbyn, and let him fight the next general election, assuming it is in the autumn. If they chose 2, then they have to just shut-the-fcuk-up because if they don't and continue the back-biting then he will have an argument for why he loses. If they do stay quiet and relatively supportive then the only two scenarios are a) he wins (which appears unlikely) or b) he loses and all but his closest allies start to drift away accepting that his hard-left policies aren't going to win. But keep mouthing off and stabbing him in the back and I think he could keep clinging on. This is surely what is on the cards for Labour Party, irrespective of Corbyn decision, as elected MPs are just too divided on working to the roots of The Party as opposed to those who adopt a more centre ground modernist approach. The Conservatives are facing their own divide with EU as well as far right and centre ground factions.

Sportyteacher

London 29 Jun 16 3.00pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

According to party rules, Corbyn (as the incumbent who is not resigning) will automatically be on the ballot. He doesn't even need to secure the 30+ MPs backing him.

It's not inconceivable that his support amongst the membership - which was overwhelming 9 months ago - could have collapsed. But is is pretty unlikely.

So I would say there is a very good chance he will be re-elected as leader.

I see Labour MPs therefore having two options: 1. Splinter and set up their own centre-left party or 2. Accept Corbyn, and let him fight the next general election, assuming it is in the autumn.

But keep mouthing off and stabbing him in the back and I think he could keep clinging on.

This is surely what is on the cards for Labour Party, irrespective of Corbyn decision, as elected MPs are just too divided on working to the roots of The Party as opposed to those who adopt a more centre ground modernist approach. The Conservatives are facing their own divide with EU as well as far right and centre ground factions.

jamiemartin721 Reading 29 Jun 16 3.02pm
Originally posted by OknotOK Agreed, which is why I think the 2nd is the best option. If you believe he is that bad then let him have the rope.... Problem is, a large part of those who vote labour would likely stick with the Labour party, as would many trade unionist members. The centre right of the Labour Party and the Blairites have always been distanced from the more grass root membership, and dependent on their ability to deliver enough middle class, and upper working class votes, to give labour a victory (Blair). "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 29 Jun 16 3.02pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

Agreed, which is why I think the 2nd is the best option. If you believe he is that bad then let him have the rope....

Problem is, a large part of those who vote labour would likely stick with the Labour party, as would many trade unionist members.

The centre right of the Labour Party and the Blairites have always been distanced from the more grass root membership, and dependent on their ability to deliver enough middle class, and upper working class votes, to give labour a victory (Blair).

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Jun 16 6.46pm
from facef*** aav page Remember the guy with the posh voice who splashed all over the BBC website and the mainstream media for heckling Jeremy Corbyn at the Gay Pride march about his supposed "Polish friend" who is in tears over Brexit? Did you know that he's a guy called Tom Mauchline who works for a dodgy Blairite PR company called Portland Communication, and that he submitted the video to the BBC himself? Did you know that Portland Communications is one of the main driving forces behind the anti-democratic Blairite coup attempt against Jeremy Corbyn? Imagine if you submitted a video of yourself slagging off a politician in the street, do you think the BBC would stick it up on their website immediately? Do you think that the BBC had an obligation to explain Tom Mauchline's clear conflict of political interest, rather than making out that he was just some Ordinary Joe member of the public? Do you think it is suspicious that the role of Portland Communications has not been mentioned once in any of the Corbyn coup coverage provided by supposedly left-liberal newspapers like The Guardian (one of their former executive editors works for Portland), the Independent, the Daily Mirror or by the BBC (who were ever so keen to post Mauchline's video)? Do you trust the mainstream corporate press and the BBC to give you the full picture, or do you understand that their job is to condition you to believe what the powers that be want you to believe, regardless of the actual facts?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 29 Jun 16 6.46pm

from facef*** aav page
Remember the guy with the posh voice who splashed all over the BBC website and the mainstream media for heckling Jeremy Corbyn at the Gay Pride march about his supposed "Polish friend" who is in tears over Brexit?

Did you know that he's a guy called Tom Mauchline who works for a dodgy Blairite PR company called Portland Communication, and that he submitted the video to the BBC himself?

Did you know that Portland Communications is one of the main driving forces behind the anti-democratic Blairite coup attempt against Jeremy Corbyn?

Imagine if you submitted a video of yourself slagging off a politician in the street, do you think the BBC would stick it up on their website immediately?

Do you think that the BBC had an obligation to explain Tom Mauchline's clear conflict of political interest, rather than making out that he was just some Ordinary Joe member of the public?

Do you think it is suspicious that the role of Portland Communications has not been mentioned once in any of the Corbyn coup coverage provided by supposedly left-liberal newspapers like The Guardian (one of their former executive editors works for Portland), the Independent, the Daily Mirror or by the BBC (who were ever so keen to post Mauchline's video)?

Do you trust the mainstream corporate press and the BBC to give you the full picture, or do you understand that their job is to condition you to believe what the powers that be want you to believe, regardless of the actual facts?

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 29 Jun 16 7.52pm
Corbyn supporters at it again [Link] the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 29 Jun 16 7.52pm

Corbyn supporters at it again

[Link]

the dignified don't even enter in the game

Sportyteacher London 29 Jun 16 7.55pm
Both Conservatives and Labour Parties are currently imploding which reflects the sad state of Parliament at present. Very little is actually going on to support the everyday best interests of the electorate. I've more time for the SNP at the moment...

Sportyteacher

London 29 Jun 16 7.55pm

Both Conservatives and Labour Parties are currently imploding which reflects the sad state of Parliament at present. Very little is actually going on to support the everyday best interests of the electorate. I've more time for the SNP at the moment...

Hrolf The Ganger 29 Jun 16 8.06pm
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Both Conservatives and Labour Parties are currently imploding which reflects the sad state of Parliament at present. Very little is actually going on to support the everyday best interests of the electorate. I've more time for the SNP at the moment... The SNP act in the interests of the SNP.

Hrolf The Ganger

29 Jun 16 8.06pm

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

The SNP act in the interests of the SNP.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Jun 16 9.20pm
Angela Eagle has changed her tune... Attachment: FB_IMG_1467231582199.jpg (23.27Kb)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 29 Jun 16 9.20pm

Angela Eagle has changed her tune...

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Stuk Top half 29 Jun 16 9.42pm
Meanwhile... I hear that Labour MPs are getting death threats from Corbyn supporters. Optimistic as ever

Stuk

Top half 29 Jun 16 9.42pm

Meanwhile... I hear that Labour MPs are getting death threats from Corbyn supporters.

Optimistic as ever

Palacetinian Surrey Fam 29 Jun 16 9.54pm
BREAKING: joint unions’ statement on Corbyn 29th June 2016 Tim Lezard News No comments Labour Party logoThe current crisis within the Parliamentary Labour Party is deeply regrettable and unnecessary. Last week’s vote to leave the European Union presents the entire labour movement with unprecedented challenges. Above all, we need to be fighting to preserve our members’ jobs, already under threat in several industries and across the public sector as a consequence. The government is in crisis, but already serious debates are taking place and decisions being made which profoundly affect the interests of working people. Under these circumstances, our members and millions of others will be looking with dismay at the events in Parliament. It cannot be right to seek to denude the Labour front bench at this time, when the government more than ever needs to be scrutinised and held to account by an effective and united opposition that does the job it is paid to do. Jeremy Corbyn is the democratically-elected Leader of our party who secured such a resounding mandate less than ten months ago under an electoral procedure fully supported by Labour MPs. His position cannot and should not be challenged except through the proper democratic procedures provided for in the p[arty’s constitution. We urge all Labour MPs to abide by those procedures, and to respect the authority of the party’s leader. While we have stated that we believe a Leadership election would be an unwelcome distraction at this time of crisis, if one nevertheless occurs through the proper procedures we would expect all parts of the party to honour the result and pull together in the interests of the country, and working people in particular. The only party that can win for working people is a strong and united Labour Party. Len McCluskey, General Secretary, Unite the Union Dave Prentis, General Secretary, UNISON Tim Roache, General Secretary, GMB Dave Ward, General Secretary, CWU Brian Rye, Acting General Secretary, UCATT Manuel Cortes, General Secretary, TSSA Mick Whelan, General Secretary, ASLEF Matt Wrack, General Secretary, FBU Ronnie Draper, General Secretary, BFAWU Chris Kitchen, General Secretary, NUM Supporting Crystal Palace since 19.45 on 29th August 1972 (approximately)!

Palacetinian

Surrey Fam 29 Jun 16 9.54pm

BREAKING: joint unions’ statement on Corbyn
29th June 2016 Tim Lezard News No comments
Labour Party logoThe current crisis within the Parliamentary Labour Party is deeply regrettable and unnecessary.

Last week’s vote to leave the European Union presents the entire labour movement with unprecedented challenges. Above all, we need to be fighting to preserve our members’ jobs, already under threat in several industries and across the public sector as a consequence.

The government is in crisis, but already serious debates are taking place and decisions being made which profoundly affect the interests of working people.

Under these circumstances, our members and millions of others will be looking with dismay at the events in Parliament. It cannot be right to seek to denude the Labour front bench at this time, when the government more than ever needs to be scrutinised and held to account by an effective and united opposition that does the job it is paid to do.

Jeremy Corbyn is the democratically-elected Leader of our party who secured such a resounding mandate less than ten months ago under an electoral procedure fully supported by Labour MPs. His position cannot and should not be challenged except through the proper democratic procedures provided for in the p[arty’s constitution. We urge all Labour MPs to abide by those procedures, and to respect the authority of the party’s leader.

While we have stated that we believe a Leadership election would be an unwelcome distraction at this time of crisis, if one nevertheless occurs through the proper procedures we would expect all parts of the party to honour the result and pull together in the interests of the country, and working people in particular. The only party that can win for working people is a strong and united Labour Party.

Len McCluskey, General Secretary, Unite the Union

Dave Prentis, General Secretary, UNISON

Tim Roache, General Secretary, GMB

Dave Ward, General Secretary, CWU

Brian Rye, Acting General Secretary, UCATT

Manuel Cortes, General Secretary, TSSA

Mick Whelan, General Secretary, ASLEF

Matt Wrack, General Secretary, FBU

Ronnie Draper, General Secretary, BFAWU

Chris Kitchen, General Secretary, NUM

Supporting Crystal Palace since 19.45 on 29th August 1972 (approximately)!

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 29 Jun 16 10.14pm
Momentum should take along hard look at themselves [Link] the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 29 Jun 16 10.14pm

Momentum should take along hard look at themselves
[Link]

the dignified don't even enter in the game

Anerley-Fried-Eagle Fake Beckenham actually 29 Jun 16 10.15pm
Corbyn must win and will win the new leadership election. Why? Because there is a mood within the country and in this case within labour supporters to give politicians a bloody nose. Significantly, Corbyn is also just about the only voice that is putting forward any arguments promoting a fairer society and a left wing agenda. How many other politicians do you here talking of banning zerohours contracts? The overwhelming majority of labour and old lib dem voters for that matter reject austerity and dint wish to see Labour return to a Blairite Tory light agenda. The fact of this situation is we have a bulk of Labout MPs either completely divorced from the true left wing ideals of your average Joe, or so swollowed up by the Westminster machine that they are motivated by solely by career and the chance to move up the ministerial greasy pole. When all is said and done a significant percentage of the country demands an end to the Thatcherite policies of the last 37 years and Labour sympathisers will be more than happy to pay £3 to re-elect Corbyn. It will also be true that the current FPTP voting system is now incapable of refelcting the current splinters in society and has to be reformed. RIP ENGLISH FOOTBALL 24/6/14

Anerley-Fried-Eagle

Fake Beckenham actually 29 Jun 16 10.15pm

Corbyn must win and will win the new leadership election.

Why?

Because there is a mood within the country and in this case within labour supporters to give politicians a bloody nose. Significantly, Corbyn is also just about the only voice that is putting forward any arguments promoting a fairer society and a left wing agenda. How many other politicians do you here talking of banning zerohours contracts?

The overwhelming majority of labour and old lib dem voters for that matter reject austerity and dint wish to see Labour return to a Blairite Tory light agenda.

The fact of this situation is we have a bulk of Labout MPs either completely divorced from the true left wing ideals of your average Joe, or so swollowed up by the Westminster machine that they are motivated by solely by career and the chance to move up the ministerial greasy pole.

When all is said and done a significant percentage of the country demands an end to the Thatcherite policies of the last 37 years and Labour sympathisers will be more than happy to pay £3 to re-elect Corbyn. It will also be true that the current FPTP voting system is now incapable of refelcting the current splinters in society and has to be reformed.

RIP ENGLISH FOOTBALL 24/6/14

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 29 Jun 16 10.20pm
Originally posted by Anerley-Fried-Eagle Corbyn must win and will win the new leadership election. Why? Because there is a mood within the country and in this case within labour supporters to give politicians a bloody nose. Significantly, Corbyn is also just about the only voice that is putting forward any arguments promoting a fairer society and a left wing agenda. How many other politicians do you here talking of banning zerohours contracts? The overwhelming majority of labour and old lib dem voters for that matter reject austerity and dint wish to see Labour return to a Blairite Tory light agenda. The fact of this situation is we have a bulk of Labout MPs either completely divorced from the true left wing ideals of your average Joe, or so swollowed up by the Westminster machine that they are motivated by solely by career and the chance to move up the ministerial greasy pole. When all is said and done a significant percentage of the country demands an end to the Thatcherite policies of the last 37 years and Labour sympathisers will be more than happy to pay £3 to re-elect Corbyn. It will also be true that the current FPTP voting system is now incapable of refelcting the current splinters in society and has to be reformed. Yep. I've had a change of heart from my position that his position was untenable this morning and just rejoined the Labour Party after a long haitus. Edited by nickgusset (29 Jun 2016 10.35pm)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 29 Jun 16 10.20pm

Originally posted by Anerley-Fried-Eagle

Corbyn must win and will win the new leadership election.

Why?

The overwhelming majority of labour and old lib dem voters for that matter reject austerity and dint wish to see Labour return to a Blairite Tory light agenda.

Yep. I've had a change of heart from my position that his position was untenable this morning and just rejoined the Labour Party after a long haitus.

Edited by nickgusset (29 Jun 2016 10.35pm)

Crystallised Oxfordshire 29 Jun 16 10.32pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Yep. I've had a change of heart form my position that his position was untenable this morning and just rejoined the Labour Party after an long haitus. I have done exactly that and will be voting for Corbyn. "I look at Steve Coppell and what a fantastic, educated man he is." Ian Holloway Twitter : [Tweet Link]

Crystallised

Oxfordshire 29 Jun 16 10.32pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Yep. I've had a change of heart form my position that his position was untenable this morning and just rejoined the Labour Party after an long haitus.

I have done exactly that and will be voting for Corbyn.

"I look at Steve Coppell and what a fantastic, educated man he is." Ian Holloway

Twitter :

[Tweet Link]

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 29 Jun 16 10.50pm
Corbyn idea of a fairer society. Agree with me or there'll be repercussions. Physical violence etc. And people have the gall to criticise Thatcher and still blame her for this country's ills the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 29 Jun 16 10.50pm

Corbyn idea of a fairer society. Agree with me or there'll be repercussions. Physical violence etc.

And people have the gall to criticise Thatcher and still blame her for this country's ills

the dignified don't even enter in the game

Crystallised Oxfordshire 29 Jun 16 11.06pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Corbyn idea of a fairer society. Agree with me or there'll be repercussions. Physical violence etc. And people have the gall to criticise Thatcher and still blame her for this country's ills He believes in KINDER politics. These are good lies you're peddling. "I look at Steve Coppell and what a fantastic, educated man he is." Ian Holloway Twitter : [Tweet Link]

Crystallised

Oxfordshire 29 Jun 16 11.06pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Corbyn idea of a fairer society. Agree with me or there'll be repercussions. Physical violence etc.

And people have the gall to criticise Thatcher and still blame her for this country's ills

He believes in KINDER politics. These are good lies you're peddling.

"I look at Steve Coppell and what a fantastic, educated man he is." Ian Holloway

Twitter :

[Tweet Link]

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