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 DanH  SW2 09 Jun 21 4.11pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
I disagree. I strive to be polite because it is the right thing for me to do, not because I 'respect' others. I lack respect for many other cultures and beliefs. Well if everyone could bite their tongue and just be polite I would settle for that.
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| Mapletree Croydon 09 Jun 21 4.14pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Might that be because companies become and remain successful by appointing the best candidates rather than meeting some quota target? Would they really sacrifice profit to fit some non-diverse agenda? I regularly observe people under-estimating those from ethnic minorities. When given a level playing field they do well. I just put the first Director onto our Exec from an ethnic minority group. Without my efforts there is almost zero chance that would happen. He needed coaching, support and someone to merchandise him inside the organisation. When he got it he blossomed.
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| Matov 09 Jun 21 4.14pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
so you accept being called a Gammon ? its all ok ? would you walk around a prison calling people by their respective ethnic slurs ? nope, didnt think so. but you seem to think its ok for a gang of urban yoof to call one of your elderly relatives a Gammon ? much to their amusement and derision. do you think the streets of South London are above such behaviours ? i pity your PC delusions. I think that expecting a certain level of civility from people is more than reasonable. As to the feral scum who abused your relatives, then I have no answer other than to condemn them but ultimately, their behaviour, whilst clearly disagreeable, is all the proof needed to see why we have to rise above it. They are not our equal. Need to view them as you might a rabid pack of dogs. We don't bark back at them.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 09 Jun 21 4.16pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
45% of Black 18-year-olds across England were accepted to higher education in 2019. This was well above the levels for White and Mixed ethnic groups and the overall average (35%). The entry rate of Black young people has increased from 28% in 2010, Great so in twenty years time they will have the right level of experience to be a CEO.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 21 4.18pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I regularly observe people under-estimating those from ethnic minorities. When given a level playing field they do well. I just put the first Director onto our Exec from an ethnic minority group. Without my efforts there is almost zero chance that would happen. He needed coaching, support and someone to merchandise him inside the organisation. When he got it he blossomed. It's true, I distinctly remember telling you at the start of Covid that minorities would be amongst the highest groups to be infected.....something that caused you much annoyance if I remember....you definitely underestimated them. Only for myself to be proven right once again.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 21 4.23pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Please go ahead and provide your alternative facts. Here you go: Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jun 2021 4.24pm)
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Teddy Eagle  09 Jun 21 4.45pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I regularly observe people under-estimating those from ethnic minorities. When given a level playing field they do well. I just put the first Director onto our Exec from an ethnic minority group. Without my efforts there is almost zero chance that would happen. He needed coaching, support and someone to merchandise him inside the organisation. When he got it he blossomed. Why wouldn’t it happen?
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 21 4.46pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Oh dear, an understandable, but, a mahoosive OG if the FA do this . . . The pious condescension from these people....so far up their own arse they need a miner's light. But hey, it'll be fun.
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| Matov 09 Jun 21 4.51pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Oh dear, an understandable, but, a mahoosive OG if the FA do this . . . I still love the part where they claim the gesture is not political. They had BLM banners all over stadiums, on the backs of players shirts but want us to now believe that the kneeling is nothing to do with it? LOL. That's me out of the now. Football is eating itself and for what purpose? Nothing is ever going to be the same again and for what? One of the things that struck me during that entire debacle over the supposed European Super League was the use of the term 'heritage supporters'. The likes of us lot basically. They don't want us around anymore. Feel we tarnish the brand. Not allowed to express any kind of disapproval at what is going on. Fine. They win on this. Let them have their World Cup in Qatar, their VAR making a mockery of the game and somehow people booing what they see, and with absolute justification given how it came about as a reality in British football, as being worthy of big brother style 'education'. Nah. I am out.
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| Mapletree Croydon 09 Jun 21 4.58pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Why wouldn’t it happen? Because people always under-estimated him, IMO due to his African roots. I had a huge blow-up with the CEO and forced her to realise what was happening. They keep doing the same with one of our Care Home managers because she has a strong African accent. She is incredibly clever. Edited by Mapletree (09 Jun 2021 4.58pm)
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| Mapletree Croydon 09 Jun 21 4.59pm |
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You would have to explain how this helps.
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| Mapletree Croydon 09 Jun 21 5.04pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's true, I distinctly remember telling you at the start of Covid that minorities would be amongst the highest groups to be infected.....something that caused you much annoyance if I remember....you definitely underestimated them. Only for myself to be proven right once again. Haha You are only ever proven right in your own legendary lunch time.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 21 5.07pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You would have to explain how this helps. Helps? I explained previously it's your selective lens....I'm criticising its dodgey pixels.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 21 5.07pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Haha You are only ever proven right in your own legendary lunch time. Denial is strong in this one.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 21 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Because people always under-estimated him, IMO due to his African roots. I had a huge blow-up with the CEO and forced her to realise what was happening. They keep doing the same with one of our Care Home managers because she has a strong African accent. She is incredibly clever. Edited by Mapletree (09 Jun 2021 4.58pm) Reminded me of this:
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| Badger11 Beckenham 09 Jun 21 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Oh dear, an understandable, but, a mahoosive OG if the FA do this . . . I had to laugh that the FA is now complaining they are not getting support from the government on this kneelling and booing. The FA caused this problem by allowing it to happen and now they want the government to sort their mess out.
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| Teddy Eagle 09 Jun 21 5.34pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Because people always under-estimated him, IMO due to his African roots. I had a huge blow-up with the CEO and forced her to realise what was happening. They keep doing the same with one of our Care Home managers because she has a strong African accent. She is incredibly clever. Edited by Mapletree (09 Jun 2021 4.58pm) Isn’t that illegal?
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| YT Oxford 09 Jun 21 5.47pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Leaving aside the reason for taking the knee, I wonder whether an opposing team who chooses not to kneel, will somehow gain a physiological advantage by ‘looking down’ and feeling superior to the other team. It may fire them up to take advantage of a ‘weak’ opponent. Just a thought. Well that certainly happened in the Six Nations (rugby union).
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