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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I am not giving excuses to have a 2nd vote. I am suggesting a 2nd vote is the only way to resolve this one way or the other. Those are not the same thing, Hrolf. As you say above, parliament could go with a no deal, or a proper brexit deal. This is precisely the issue here. There is no democratic foundation between picking one or the other of those 2 options! It was not voted on. It should be voted on. If another vote ever did happen the two options should be Mays deal or no deal. The remain vote has already failed so that needs to be taking out of the equation!
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
So you confirm what I hinted at. It isn't the fact that there are new people there (which has always been so by the way) but that it is a particular type of new person you object to. Specifically, Muslims. I saw a couple of Muslim women the other day in the local shops part of Caterham hill dressed in full Muslim gear apart from the veil. Another in Tesco car park. I wasn’t pleased and I’m not ashamed to say it. Edited by Rudi Hedman (17 May 2019 12.23am)
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Originally posted by cpfc_chap
If another vote ever did happen the two options should be Mays deal or no deal. The remain vote has already failed so that needs to be taking out of the equation! I agree with Maine that there are people split across the spectrum of which kind of Brexit, but May’s deal? Farage is right that it’s akin to some kind surrender deal and really quite pathetic. It’s such a shame the rest of the Tories were so cowardly they let her take the reigns. A real waste, but isn’t that what we’ve been doing for decades? Vote for leave so we can drive the country forward with new markets and trading agreements that can grow the small to medium sized British businesses? No we can’t, we have a useless administrator, not a negotiator, without an ounce of charm or personality.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I saw a couple of Muslim women the other day in the local shops part of Caterham hill dressed in full Muslim gear apart from the veil. Another in Tesco car park. I wasn’t pleased and I’m not ashamed to say it. Edited by Rudi Hedman (17 May 2019 12.23am) Why were you not pleased?
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No need to use a search engine. Just my eyes and brain are all that are needed. Just because you wish it wasn't so doesn't mean it isn't so. Says the man who doesn't know what day is holy for Muslims
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I suggest that you read my replies in the other thread, rather than seek another diversion here. I get the feeling that you are so set in your ways that new thoughts cannot ever enter your mind. As your hero might say. Sad! Clutching at straws here Wisbech. One may think I struck a nerve with you. Who's my hero btw? Or you just don't know when to stop? Now that's what I call really sad! Baby...
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Why were you not pleased? I'm sure Rudi won't mind me taking this for him when I say that it's because it's culturally alien to western values. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 May 2019 5.21am)
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
No-one really knows the answer but the results of next week's EU elections will give a massive clue if Farage's Brexit Party wins the significant number of seats that has been predicted.
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More right wing press rubbish Oh hold on.
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
People did not vote exclusively for a no deal exit, though some did. People didn't vote to join the EU, they voted to join the common market. But who bothered with that distinction.....do you moan about how the nature of the union changed without democratic approval? Hence, what goes around should come around.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm sure Rudi won't mind me taking this for him when I say that it's because it's culturally alien to western values. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 May 2019 5.21am) Yep. If I wanted this I’d live in the Middle East or East London. If I have the choice, and we should, I do not want my area to have many many women, or any women preferably covered from head to toe with only their faces uncovered, or not even their faces. I also do not want anybody looking down on our way of life, or feel uncomfortable or begin to feel like an outsider. It’s nothing to do with them, in our western country. Plus we’ve lost enough pubs. They can do what they like in their own regions of the world.
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Again, how is this constant stream of amoebic dross any different from PP similar levels of perceived nonsense Not noted just dismissed
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Why were you not pleased? I believe knowing the background of that dress is enough reason for not to be pleased. Woman`s position in Islam is structured on pure discrimination. So while discussing discrimination in the public (against immigrants, colored skin, LGBT etc), discriminating a mindset which was built on discrimination should not be an issue
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Originally posted by blackheatheagle
I believe knowing the background of that dress is enough reason for not to be pleased. Woman`s position in Islam is structured on pure discrimination. So while discussing discrimination in the public (against immigrants, colored skin, LGBT etc), discriminating a mindset which was built on discrimination should not be an issue How dare you crush one of the many illogical ideologies of the left. Shame on you.
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
You are wrong, if you dont mind me pointing out. People did not vote exclusively for a no deal exit, though some did. People did not vote exclusively for May's deal (as it didnt exist), though some voted for some kind of managed exit along the lines of a withdrawal agreement/deal. People did not vote exclusively for Norway plus, though some did. You cannot play the "uphold the democracy" card on one hand when it suits you, then completely sack of the concept of democracy on the other hand. The way in which we leave the EU has massive, fundamental and far reaching consequences. No deal compared to May's deal is very different indeed. To democratically deliver one of those exit routes, it must be voted on in a 2nd referendum. Given the amount of lies, mistruths, lack of understanding and simple inability to predict the future in 2016, any reasonable person would also concede the very concept of leaving the EU must be voted on again, if you are going to the trouble of arranging a second national vote. If your position is solid, we will vote again to leave the EU. As you hold democracy in such high regard, if the will of the British people has changed, as they have seen the 350 mil for the NHS was a lie, and they have seen job losses and uncertainty, and they have seen what is happening with British Steel, then democratic process must rule and a new vote must be held. How do you know this?
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Originally posted by Spiderman
How do you know this? It goes without saying, obviously. And I’m a leaver.
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Originally posted by Spiderman
the European commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, has warned voters against using the elections as a protest vote.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Peffers is really going for that red. He won't be denied! Don't do it Peffers! Quick....someone hold him back! What is 'homophobic bulling' by the way?.....Is it some kind of new sadomasochistic position after spooning? Edited by Stirlingsays (14 May 2019 7.34am) Only just noticed this. Genuinely sorry to see Peffers go. The Volkischer Beobachter comment did make me laugh, though, as did much of his output. Modding seems to be a lot more zero tolerance now than in my day.
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