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We should make our own laws and enforce them in our own courts.
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| legaleagle |
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Please provide the evidence for the proposition that the "majority of our laws" emanate from the EU.
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Quote leggedstruggle at 22 Jul 2015 4.38pm
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Quote nickgusset at 22 Jul 2015 3.50pm
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Legged. I take it that you think it's OK for people to call others a black c***. Speaks volumes I'm afraid. I don't think you should call anyone a c**t. Whether you use the word black as well, or fat, or bald etc, I don't think it matters much - certainly does not warrant a criminal prosecution. By the way, have there been any prosecutions of black people for calling white people 'white c****s? Your selective outrage at the use of the word black of course speaks volumes too. I'm not taking a stance. Just presenting what are Societal norms.
Poor trolling. Must try harder. My contributions were in answer to your own posting of a link about 'thought crimes', contrasting the left's support of the right of Islamic State supporters to have freedom of speech, but the likes of Terry not to. Terry was found not guilty of using racist language by a proper court. The politically correct FA punished him for political reasons. Is it a 'societal norm' to allow Islamic State supporters to spread their poison unhindered?
I just said that there is a difference between saying something as a personal opinion, and acting on an expressed view. If you don't think there is a difference between someone saying 'I don't like black people' and telling someone directly, to their face, to 'go back home' or calling them a black c**t then you're right. If however, you do see a difference between an idea or belief, and 'attacking' people on the basis of that idea of belief, verbally or physically then I'm right. I don't have a problem with people who express unpopular, horrible or even criminal views. Its when they act on them. Also, as the so called 'Thought Police' aren't actually murdering people for what they believe in private, its a hyperbole. I don't see how telling someone to go home is attacking them. I've had pub landlords tell me to go home; they weren't arrested and handcuffed - mind you I think they were under 85 years of age. The difference would be that there was just cause and it wasn't directed at you as an insult. If you really can't see the difference between the two examples, then that's fine, but your line in rhetoric is pretty poor.
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Quote fed up eagle at 22 Jul 2015 7.47pm
Quote nickgusset at 22 Jul 2015 7.13pm
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Quote fed up eagle at 22 Jul 2015 6.36pm
If the Human Rights act is scrapped then that would be the best thing that could happen. Because of this criminal's and terrorist's charter we can't get rid of these f**k**g parasites who come over here stowed away on the back of trucks and come here to claim benefits and enjoy a health system that they've NEVER even contributed to. It's the reason why prisoners may get the vote, it's the reason that people are allowed to sue over something that happened over 100 hundred years ago ie people suing over the slave trade. It's the reason that terrorists, murderers and rapists have more bloody rights than their victims. Screw the human rights act and screw the European Court of Human Rights. The sooner we're without these riduclous acts the better. it can only be an improvement if the Human Rights Act is consigned to the dustbin of history.
Bloody human rights, getting in the way of giving people basic human rights.
You expect this lot (let alone any other lot) to come up with anything 'common sense' f***ing hell, people are so gullible for abstract nouns... What would be part of a 'common sense' bill of human rights? Have a look through the current Human rights act and tell us what should be removed, in your opinion. I've had a look through and there seem to be enough legal caveats to cover terrorism.
How many instances of the flouting of the human rights act , the sort that you are alluding to, are there in the UK per year?
Edited by nickgusset (22 Jul 2015 7.14pm)
Actually it wasn't anything to do with human rights. Even prior to 1998 it would have been almost impossible to deport someone to a country that they'd been granted asylum from. The ECHR serves as the highest court of appeal in all UK cases, has done so since its inception. Choudary can't be deported because he is British, and despite being a c**t, he was born in the UK. The cat story isn't true. The defendant had a cat, but the judges decision was based on family, the cat was irrelivent (its not mentioned at all in the judges summation). The decision was made on common-law relationships. But don't let the actual context or facts get in the way. Much better to propose a system where by only the people you like can be british and have rights.
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Quote leggedstruggle at 23 Jul 2015 10.00am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 23 Jul 2015 9.04am
Quote fed up eagle at 22 Jul 2015 7.47pm
Quote nickgusset at 22 Jul 2015 7.13pm
Quote fed up eagle at 22 Jul 2015 7.01pm
Quote nickgusset at 22 Jul 2015 6.51pm
Quote fed up eagle at 22 Jul 2015 6.36pm
If the Human Rights act is scrapped then that would be the best thing that could happen. Because of this criminal's and terrorist's charter we can't get rid of these f**k**g parasites who come over here stowed away on the back of trucks and come here to claim benefits and enjoy a health system that they've NEVER even contributed to. It's the reason why prisoners may get the vote, it's the reason that people are allowed to sue over something that happened over 100 hundred years ago ie people suing over the slave trade. It's the reason that terrorists, murderers and rapists have more bloody rights than their victims. Screw the human rights act and screw the European Court of Human Rights. The sooner we're without these riduclous acts the better. it can only be an improvement if the Human Rights Act is consigned to the dustbin of history.
Bloody human rights, getting in the way of giving people basic human rights.
You expect this lot (let alone any other lot) to come up with anything 'common sense' f***ing hell, people are so gullible for abstract nouns... What would be part of a 'common sense' bill of human rights? Have a look through the current Human rights act and tell us what should be removed, in your opinion. I've had a look through and there seem to be enough legal caveats to cover terrorism.
How many instances of the flouting of the human rights act , the sort that you are alluding to, are there in the UK per year?
Edited by nickgusset (22 Jul 2015 7.14pm)
Actually it wasn't anything to do with human rights. Even prior to 1998 it would have been almost impossible to deport someone to a country that they'd been granted asylum from. The ECHR serves as the highest court of appeal in all UK cases, has done so since its inception. Choudary can't be deported because he is British, and despite being a c**t, he was born in the UK. The cat story isn't true. The defendant had a cat, but the judges decision was based on family, the cat was irrelivent (its not mentioned at all in the judges summation). The decision was made on common-law relationships. But don't let the actual context or facts get in the way. Much better to propose a system where by only the people you like can be british and have rights. We know that - that is the problem. We should administer our own laws. Does Choudhury consider himself British? In 2001 he stated that his allegiance is to Islam, and not a country. He believes that, for a true Muslim, "a British passport is no more than a travel document." We'd still need an independent court of appeal to ratify UK law, and serve as the highest court of appeal, which would of course have reached the same decision - ie that you cannot deport someone to a country from which you've granted them asylum from (Notably the court of appeal also considered it highly questionable, and passed it on for interpretation and arbitration). You don't like it because its the European court I'm guessing. It was the right decision, in law. Governments should be held to their own legal decisions, even if they are unpopular further down the road. Doesn't matter what he considers himself, he is British. Unless he becomes a naturalized citizen of another country, he will remain British. Just as I am, I don't want to be British, either, but for better or worse I am.
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