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BlueJay UK 14 Apr 22 6.09pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Obsessed? No. As the implications of this interference are profound, determined it not be denied, ignored or forgotten? Yes. Those who receive succour from our enemies need to be exposed for the traitors they truly are. [Link] Nice post presidency billion deal. But I'm sure it's all above board, and based on its merits: [Link] But it didn't happen in Ukraine and Tucker Carlson didn't mention it, so it doesn't count! Though primarily, it's a political problem, rather than a party problem. The more polarised politics become the more rife this stuff is. Edited by BlueJay (14 Apr 2022 6.16pm)

BlueJay

UK 14 Apr 22 6.09pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Obsessed? No. As the implications of this interference are profound, determined it not be denied, ignored or forgotten? Yes.

Those who receive succour from our enemies need to be exposed for the traitors they truly are.

[Link]

Nice post presidency billion deal. But I'm sure it's all above board, and based on its merits: [Link] But it didn't happen in Ukraine and Tucker Carlson didn't mention it, so it doesn't count! Though primarily, it's a political problem, rather than a party problem. The more polarised politics become the more rife this stuff is.

Edited by BlueJay (14 Apr 2022 6.16pm)

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Apr 22 6.12pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I don't think Finland will join NATO. All I care about is not dying because of idiot politicians and their bad strategies. I heard both Finish and Swedish politicians talking on Radio 4 yesterday as though it is a near certainty both their countries will join by the middle of this year. The Swedish decision hinges on the Finish one, but they are clearly in very close discussions over this. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 14 Apr 22 6.12pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I don't think Finland will join NATO.

All I care about is not dying because of idiot politicians and their bad strategies.

I heard both Finish and Swedish politicians talking on Radio 4 yesterday as though it is a near certainty both their countries will join by the middle of this year. The Swedish decision hinges on the Finish one, but they are clearly in very close discussions over this.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Stirlingsays 14 Apr 22 6.16pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I heard both Finish and Swedish politicians talking on Radio 4 yesterday as though it is a near certainty both their countries will join by the middle of this year. The Swedish decision hinges on the Finish one, but they are clearly in very close discussions over this. I should imagine that in reality all that matters is what the Pentagon thinks. As for you I guess you want to play chicken with nuclear war. Personally I don't. I see no benefit in enlarging NATO. I only see the benefit in de-escalation. We shall see. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 6.17pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

14 Apr 22 6.16pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I should imagine that in reality all that matters is what the Pentagon thinks. As for you I guess you want to play chicken with nuclear war.

Personally I don't.

I see no benefit in enlarging NATO.

I only see the benefit in de-escalation.

We shall see.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 6.17pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

BlueJay UK 14 Apr 22 6.18pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I heard both Finish and Swedish politicians talking on Radio 4 yesterday as though it is a near certainty both their countries will join by the middle of this year. The Swedish decision hinges on the Finish one, but they are clearly in very close discussions over this. Possible, though the 'money where your mouth is' markets (which are often surprisingly accurate) don't seem quite as sure as that [Link]

BlueJay

UK 14 Apr 22 6.18pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Possible, though the 'money where your mouth is' markets (which are often surprisingly accurate) don't seem quite as sure as that [Link]

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Apr 22 6.24pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays The Democrats, from Clinton to Biden are more immersed in foreign corruption and money than Trump could ever dream of. Yet you only have eyes for Trump....you waffled about him for years and nothing came of it. As I told you it wouldn't. All you have is waffle. Putting it very politely, that's piffle. The assertions about Clinton's and Biden's "corruption" are simply right-wing propaganda. If there is evidence, let it be presented and let due process deal with it. Some of Trump's associates were jailed. He was let off the hook, firstly by Barr, and then by the Republican Senators. Trump's time will come. Trump resists justice with every trick in the book. Plausible deniability and refusal to co-operate being the principal methods, but his crimes will catch up with him. As I have told you many times, you need to be patient. His only escape is that which saved Jimmy Savile, a man who he shares at least one characteristic with. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 14 Apr 22 6.24pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The Democrats, from Clinton to Biden are more immersed in foreign corruption and money than Trump could ever dream of.

Yet you only have eyes for Trump....you waffled about him for years and nothing came of it. As I told you it wouldn't.

All you have is waffle.

Putting it very politely, that's piffle. The assertions about Clinton's and Biden's "corruption" are simply right-wing propaganda. If there is evidence, let it be presented and let due process deal with it.

Some of Trump's associates were jailed. He was let off the hook, firstly by Barr, and then by the Republican Senators. Trump's time will come. Trump resists justice with every trick in the book. Plausible deniability and refusal to co-operate being the principal methods, but his crimes will catch up with him. As I have told you many times, you need to be patient. His only escape is that which saved Jimmy Savile, a man who he shares at least one characteristic with.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Stirlingsays 14 Apr 22 6.31pm
Kushner is as corrupt as any of them.....squalid little fixer. The Republicans are little better than the Democrats when it comes to corruption. Both parties are of the swamp. The Republican are just less crazy in social politics. De Santis 2024. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 6.32pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

14 Apr 22 6.31pm

Kushner is as corrupt as any of them.....squalid little fixer.

The Republicans are little better than the Democrats when it comes to corruption. Both parties are of the swamp.

The Republican are just less crazy in social politics.

De Santis 2024.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 6.32pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 14 Apr 22 6.33pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Putting it very politely, that's piffle. The assertions about Clinton's and Biden's "corruption" are simply right-wing propaganda. If there is evidence, let it be presented and let due process deal with it. Some of Trump's associates were jailed. He was let off the hook, firstly by Barr, and then by the Republican Senators. Trump's time will come. Trump resists justice with every trick in the book. Plausible deniability and refusal to co-operate being the principal methods, but his crimes will catch up with him. As I have told you many times, you need to be patient. His only escape is that which saved Jimmy Savile, a man who he shares at least one characteristic with. Sorry, all I could hear was 'honk honk'. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

14 Apr 22 6.33pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Sorry, all I could hear was 'honk honk'.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Apr 22 6.33pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I should imagine that in reality all that matters is what the Pentagon thinks. As for you I guess you want to play chicken with nuclear war. Personally I don't. I see no benefit in enlarging NATO. I only see the benefit in de-escalation. We shall see. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 6.17pm) Of course, I don't want to play chicken with nuclear war. What an absurd idea! Finland and Sweden joining Nato would decrease, not increase, the possibility of nuclear war. Both countries have strong, well-trained and well-equipped militaries. They would strengthen Nato's capacity to defend the Baltic States significantly, alongside giving both countries the reassurances of Nato's support for them if attacked. The whole point is to deter Russian expansionism, and in so doing the risk of any nuclear escalation decreases. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 14 Apr 22 6.33pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I should imagine that in reality all that matters is what the Pentagon thinks. As for you I guess you want to play chicken with nuclear war.

Personally I don't.

I see no benefit in enlarging NATO.

I only see the benefit in de-escalation.

We shall see.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Apr 2022 6.17pm)

Of course, I don't want to play chicken with nuclear war. What an absurd idea!

Finland and Sweden joining Nato would decrease, not increase, the possibility of nuclear war. Both countries have strong, well-trained and well-equipped militaries. They would strengthen Nato's capacity to defend the Baltic States significantly, alongside giving both countries the reassurances of Nato's support for them if attacked.

The whole point is to deter Russian expansionism, and in so doing the risk of any nuclear escalation decreases.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Stirlingsays 14 Apr 22 6.46pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Of course, I don't want to play chicken with nuclear war. What an absurd idea! Finland and Sweden joining Nato would decrease, not increase, the possibility of nuclear war. Both countries have strong, well-trained and well-equipped militaries. They would strengthen Nato's capacity to defend the Baltic States significantly, alongside giving both countries the reassurances of Nato's support for them if attacked. The whole point is to deter Russian expansionism, and in so doing the risk of any nuclear escalation decreases. You're a fool if you think expanding Nato decreases escalation. It's literally why we are where we are. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

14 Apr 22 6.46pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course, I don't want to play chicken with nuclear war. What an absurd idea!

The whole point is to deter Russian expansionism, and in so doing the risk of any nuclear escalation decreases.

You're a fool if you think expanding Nato decreases escalation.

It's literally why we are where we are.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 14 Apr 22 7.48pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You're a fool if you think expanding Nato decreases escalation. It's literally why we are where we are. No, i think if Ukraine was given what the asked for in 2008 we wouldn't be in this mess, if your theory is correct he will attack Poland or Romania, but he wont because of NATO “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 14 Apr 22 7.48pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You're a fool if you think expanding Nato decreases escalation.

It's literally why we are where we are.

No, i think if Ukraine was given what the asked for in 2008 we wouldn't be in this mess, if your theory is correct he will attack Poland or Romania, but he wont because of NATO

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 14 Apr 22 7.52pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Of course, I don't want to play chicken with nuclear war. What an absurd idea! Finland and Sweden joining Nato would decrease, not increase, the possibility of nuclear war. Both countries have strong, well-trained and well-equipped militaries. They would strengthen Nato's capacity to defend the Baltic States significantly, alongside giving both countries the reassurances of Nato's support for them if attacked. The whole point is to deter Russian expansionism, and in so doing the risk of any nuclear escalation decreases. I think you are completely correct, Russia know they cant beat America, so that is the deterrent “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 14 Apr 22 7.52pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course, I don't want to play chicken with nuclear war. What an absurd idea!

The whole point is to deter Russian expansionism, and in so doing the risk of any nuclear escalation decreases.

I think you are completely correct, Russia know they cant beat America, so that is the deterrent

Teddy Eagle 14 Apr 22 8.00pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Putting it very politely, that's piffle. The assertions about Clinton's and Biden's "corruption" are simply right-wing propaganda. If there is evidence, let it be presented and let due process deal with it. Some of Trump's associates were jailed. He was let off the hook, firstly by Barr, and then by the Republican Senators. Trump's time will come. Trump resists justice with every trick in the book. Plausible deniability and refusal to co-operate being the principal methods, but his crimes will catch up with him. As I have told you many times, you need to be patient. His only escape is that which saved Jimmy Savile, a man who he shares at least one characteristic with. There might be some evidence. [Link]

Teddy Eagle

14 Apr 22 8.00pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There might be some evidence.

[Link]

Hrolf The Ganger 14 Apr 22 8.07pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle As I see no relationship at all in your reply to that which I wrote, there is no confirmation. Unless you are suggesting that Trump, Brexit and Le Pen are all "useless". I see no relation between what you write and reality.

Hrolf The Ganger

14 Apr 22 8.07pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As I see no relationship at all in your reply to that which I wrote, there is no confirmation. Unless you are suggesting that Trump, Brexit and Le Pen are all "useless".

I see no relation between what you write and reality.

Stirlingsays 14 Apr 22 8.18pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad No, i think if Ukraine was given what the asked for in 2008 we wouldn't be in this mess, if your theory is correct he will attack Poland or Romania, but he wont because of NATO ? Neither Poland nor Romania are border countries. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

14 Apr 22 8.18pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

No, i think if Ukraine was given what the asked for in 2008 we wouldn't be in this mess, if your theory is correct he will attack Poland or Romania, but he wont because of NATO

Neither Poland nor Romania are border countries.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 14 Apr 22 8.22pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad I think you are completely correct, Russia know they cant beat America, so that is the deterrent As a deterrent that theory has hardly been working has it. The US has been fighting some war or other for most of my life. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

14 Apr 22 8.22pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I think you are completely correct, Russia know they cant beat America, so that is the deterrent

As a deterrent that theory has hardly been working has it. The US has been fighting some war or other for most of my life.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Mapletree Croydon 14 Apr 22 9.02pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays And old nags? A tiny riding or ‘pleasure’ horse. I’m not tiny but I’m extremely good at pleasure. But you can call me a cob. Sturdy, robust and strong with fluffy feet. Edited by Mapletree (14 Apr 2022 9.05pm)

Mapletree

Croydon 14 Apr 22 9.02pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

And old nags?

A tiny riding or ‘pleasure’ horse.

I’m not tiny but I’m extremely good at pleasure.

But you can call me a cob. Sturdy, robust and strong with fluffy feet.

Edited by Mapletree (14 Apr 2022 9.05pm)

palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 14 Apr 22 9.53pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays ? Neither Poland nor Romania are border countries. Poland has a border with Kaliningrad, which is Russian Federation Territory.

palace_in_frogland

In a broken dream 14 Apr 22 9.53pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Neither Poland nor Romania are border countries.

Poland has a border with Kaliningrad, which is Russian Federation Territory.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Apr 22 9.53pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle There might be some evidence. [Link] Simple. If true, and that's a big if seeing the source is the USA's version of the Daily Mail, then let it be presented in a court and due process decide. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 14 Apr 22 9.53pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

There might be some evidence.

[Link]

Simple. If true, and that's a big if seeing the source is the USA's version of the Daily Mail, then let it be presented in a court and due process decide.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 14 Apr 22 10.03pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Sorry, all I could hear was 'honk honk'. Strangely, all I often think, when trying to follow your reasoning, is that it honks. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 14 Apr 22 10.03pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sorry, all I could hear was 'honk honk'.

Strangely, all I often think, when trying to follow your reasoning, is that it honks.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Stirlingsays 14 Apr 22 10.06pm
Originally posted by Mapletree A tiny riding or ‘pleasure’ horse. I’m not tiny but I’m extremely good at pleasure. But you can call me a cob. Sturdy, robust and strong with fluffy feet. Edited by Mapletree (14 Apr 2022 9.05pm) Perhaps not a cob....but it rhymes with it. Only joking my man. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

14 Apr 22 10.06pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

A tiny riding or ‘pleasure’ horse.

I’m not tiny but I’m extremely good at pleasure.

But you can call me a cob. Sturdy, robust and strong with fluffy feet.

Edited by Mapletree (14 Apr 2022 9.05pm)

Perhaps not a cob....but it rhymes with it.

Only joking my man.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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