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 OknotOK  Cockfosters, London 20 Jun 16 11.18am |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Has this thread managed to convince anyone to change their voting intentions? I suspect not. It does seem to have turned various people against each other, though. I've deliberately refrained from getting too involved other than to occasionally reaffirm my commitment to a 'leave' vote but I don't believe for one minute that I've changed people's minds or influenced the waverers. Some people seem to be falling out over all this and that's sad. I think it's fair to say the quality of debate on the thread has been very poor in the last few days at least.
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| Hoof Hearted 20 Jun 16 11.21am | |
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Originally posted by snytaxx
Have you declared for remain yet Nick? Alternatively, you could do a Baroness Warsi and defect from a campaign you were never part of. Do you know what... I chuckled to myself this morning as I heard that "news" and thought exactly the same. Baroness Warsi was no more going to vote for Brexit than Gusset is/was. And he expects us to treat him with respect.... LOL
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 20 Jun 16 11.31am |
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Well this may explain why the Unions are in the remain camp
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Attachment:  Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jun 16 11.38am |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Do you know what... I chuckled to myself this morning as I heard that "news" and thought exactly the same. Baroness Warsi was no more going to vote for Brexit than Gusset is/was. And he expects us to treat him with respect.... LOL Tories calling in favours after she kept her job in the expenses scandal.
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| DivingIsNotGood se25 20 Jun 16 12.15pm |
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Assange backs Leave because David Cameron's government is using EU legislation as an excuse for its own poor decision making. [Link]
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| blackpalacefan 20 Jun 16 12.20pm |
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood
Assange backs Leave because David Cameron's government is using EU legislation as an excuse for its own poor decision making. [Link] there's definitely some truth to that. The chickens have come home to roost for him a result of blaming the EU for everything though now that he's defending it with every ounce of his being. politics is a funny old game.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 20 Jun 16 1.33pm |
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Originally posted by snytaxx
Have you declared for remain yet Nick? Alternatively, you could do a Baroness Warsi and defect from a campaign you were never part of. Have to say that made me laugh...almost as much as the MP the other day refusing to get on the Bus due to the slogans on it. Sleepers the pair of them triggered to 'jump' at given points closer to the end of the campaigning in an attempt to sway votes...honestly who falls for this shyte!?
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Jun 16 1.52pm |
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| johnfirewall 20 Jun 16 1.53pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
More b/s from brexit. (from facebook) So this flyer is coming through doors from the Brexit campaign. An intrepid scientist called Nick Roesen decided to look into this claim. The Rio-Antirrio Bridge cost 630m Euros and is 47% funded by a loan from the European Investment Bank (source: The Economist). The same bank is funding: This is all part of £16bn of investment in British projects over the last 3 years (Crossrail, Manchester Metrolink etc.) (source: gov.uk, Wikipedia). Potholes are a problem but not because of the EU. That is the UK and local government's remit. It's not helping them persuade me if they are going to carry on with these half truths. The other half came from the Greeks themselves, and that was in 2002 so they weren't as skint. Not a great bit of propaganda. What does annoy me is that the lefty remainers only like facts supporting their cause. Any linking immigration to lower wages are just ignored.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 20 Jun 16 2.58pm |
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Originally posted by johnfirewall
Any linking immigration to lower wages are just ignored. I don't think that's true. Almost every study shows there is, at worst, little statistical impact and, at best, a positive impact on overall wages from immigration.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jun 16 3.01pm |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
I don't think that's true. Almost every study shows there is, at worst, little statistical impact and, at best, a positive impact on overall wages from immigration. Are you serious? Think about that for a moment.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Jun 16 3.20pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Do you know what... I chuckled to myself this morning as I heard that "news" and thought exactly the same. Baroness Warsi was no more going to vote for Brexit than Gusset is/was. And he expects us to treat him with respect.... LOL
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| Part Time James 20 Jun 16 3.24pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I don't want to do a Paddy Ashdown, but I will eat some form of headwear if you vote Leave!
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Jun 16 3.43pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
I don't want to do a Paddy Ashdown, but I will eat some form of headwear if you vote Leave! A crown of thorns? I don't care for Farage’s xenophobic posters and views. Boris and Gove can f*** off. TTIP scares the s*** out of me. Lobbyists influencing the EU commission don't give a feck about workers rights. Greece has been shafted right up the jacksie, nationalism will rise even more if we stay...
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| snytaxx London 20 Jun 16 3.45pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Have you seen 'Lexit the movie' yet Nick?
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| Part Time James 20 Jun 16 3.47pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
A crown of thorns? I don't care for Farage’s xenophobic posters and views. Boris and Gove can f*** off. TTIP scares the s*** out of me. Lobbyists influencing the EU commission don't give a feck about workers rights. Greece has been shafted right up the jacksie, nationalism will rise even more if we stay... It doesn't sound much like I'm going to need to worry about what sort of headwear it is!
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 20 Jun 16 3.56pm |
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Fully serious. Even the recent study that was reported widely in the press as finally proving that immigration did drive down wages was almost the contrary (it actually was a revision of an earlier study and concluded that the overall impact was "very small" - [Link] ). Sector by sector review shows that a 10% increase in the proportion of immigrants resulted in just a 2% reduction in pay for the worst effected (semi/unskilled sector). Edited by OknotOK (20 Jun 2016 3.58pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jun 16 3.58pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
A crown of thorns? I don't care for Farage’s xenophobic posters and views. Boris and Gove can f*** off. TTIP scares the s*** out of me. Lobbyists influencing the EU commission don't give a feck about workers rights. Greece has been shafted right up the jacksie, nationalism will rise even more if we stay... You sound like a man torn between principles. I do feel sorry for you.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jun 16 4.00pm |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
Fully serious. Even the recent study that was reported widely in the press as finally proving that immigration did drive down wages was almost the contrary (it actually was a revision of an earlier study and concluded that the overall impact was "very small" - [Link] ). Sector by sector review shows that a 10% increase in the proportion of immigrants resulted in just a 2% reduction in pay for the worst effected (semi/unskilled sector). Edited by OknotOK (20 Jun 2016 3.58pm) You believe those figures if you want and I will go with common sense. It usually serves me well.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 20 Jun 16 4.02pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You sound like a man torn between principles. I do feel sorry for you. Europe seems like such an odd issue that somehow manages to unite both (proper) left and (proper) right - in desired outcome even if not for the same reasons. I'm still inclined towards Remain but it is very conflicting given the acknowledged issues with the EU.
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