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 Stirlingsays  09 Jun 21 10.36pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
If you take your maternity entitlement for each child then it’s two years. I know many take more if they can afford it/childcare costs often make it pointless going back full time anyway. So we see that the realities of life are much more the answer than any sloganizing. Personally I think women get a far worse deal than before....feminism has certainly benefited career minded middle class women but it's worsened the prospects for everyone else, especially most women. Excepting the elite capitalists of course.....more workers, lower relative pay. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jun 2021 10.37pm)
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 21 10.41pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
I agree. Modern women want careers too though and you could make the same argument about needing fathers too. I wouldn't be so keen to speak in absolutes, I think most women would like the choice instead of the compulsion. It's certainly true that children need their fathers, however while the children are young mothers are commonly more important, and nature made most females more maternal for that purpose. But no father in the home affects the stats on many outcomes negatively. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jun 2021 10.49pm)
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| DanH SW2 09 Jun 21 10.53pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I wouldn't be so keen to speak in absolutes, I think most women would like the choice instead of the compulsion. It's certainly true that children need their fathers, however while the children are young mothers are commonly more important, and nature made most females more maternal for that purpose. But no father in the home affects the stats on many outcomes negatively. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jun 2021 10.49pm) I agree with you again.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 21 10.57pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
I agree with you again. Cool, but even if you didn't, as a young father I certainly only wish you well and there is so much you have to look forward to.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 09 Jun 21 10.59pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Cool, but even if you didn't, as a young father I certainly only wish you well and there is so much you have to look forward to. ditto, the kids first visit to Selhurst being high on the list.
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| DanH SW2 09 Jun 21 11.00pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Cool, but even if you didn't, as a young father I certainly only wish you well and there is so much you have to look forward to. Certainly finding out in the last few days that sometimes only a cuddle from mummy will do and daddy can go amuse himself elsewhere
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Thank you. | Stirlingsays 09 Jun 21 11.02pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
countries with career women also have unaffordable housing. And the corollary is true. Stay-at-home women in, say, morocco, have more freedoms than wage-slave women in London. Countries with a high proportion of career women ? apart from a flashy car, a nice iPhone & interior decor.....what are the real advantages ? the marriage statistics are in the toilet. A lot of lonely 40 year old women without kids. regarding 'taking the knee'.... to what extent are the problems of underprivilege associate with the family and education choices of people in poor neighbourhoods. A ton of single mothers means some dodgy statistics for the neighbourhood's kids.... - educational achievement - drugs and alcohol problems - etc etc You shouldnt blame the government for a load of absentee fathers. Maybe blame Boris for just a handful of kids, his own. career women ...ok planned parenthood , single on the dole aged 17....a disaster for society. Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 Jun 2021 10.53pm) Yep, the messages social liberalism have given out over decades has been a wrecking ball for families of lower means. And those women who chose careers instead of families and reached 40 with no kids.....Well, if they are ok with the next 40 years on their own then I have no negative words for them. But I think a lot of them are going to be very bitter and lonely...They believed the messaging they were sold...it certainly wasn't the fault of the average bloke.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 21 11.06pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
Certainly finding out in the last few days that sometimes only a cuddle from mummy will do and daddy can go amuse himself elsewhere
Yeah, I had that from my second....that actually lasted for a couple of years. When I look back it was just natural development for him. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jun 2021 11.06pm)
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| Stirlingsays 09 Jun 21 11.08pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
ditto, the kids first visit to Selhurst being high on the list. Oh yes. Seeing the lads in Palace attire makes you happy.
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Goal Machine  The Cronx 10 Jun 21 7.05am |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Good interview with Simon Jordan who talks about BLM and politics in sport. [Link] He speaks very eloquently about a sensitive subject. I suspect his views match those of the majority. Compare his interview with Rio Ferdinand on BBC this morning - 'The people booing England players 'taking a knee' are an "ignorant minority" who need "educating", says former England captain Rio Ferdinand.' The whole thing is a total mess. It was always going to be when you introduce divisive politics into sport. Edited by Goal Machine (10 Jun 2021 8.03am)
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| Spiderman Horsham 10 Jun 21 7.59am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
ditto, the kids first visit to Selhurst being high on the list. But child cruelty is a criminal offence isn’t it?
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| eritheagle Erith 10 Jun 21 8.53am |
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
He speaks very eloquently about a sensitive subject. I suspect his views match those of the majority. Compare his interview with Rio Ferdinand on BBC this morning - 'The people booing England players 'taking a knee' are an "ignorant minority" who need "educating", says former England captain Rio Ferdinand.' The whole thing is a total mess. It was always going to be when you introduce divisive politics into sport. Edited by Goal Machine (10 Jun 2021 8.03am) Laura Woods went off on a couple of rants on her Talksport morning show the other day. According to her those that booed are racist and idiots.
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| Stirlingsays 10 Jun 21 8.59am |
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Originally posted by palace_in_frogland
Rio Ferdinand says people who are booing need to be educated. It's like living through 2016 again.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 10 Jun 21 9.07am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Cool, but even if you didn't, as a young father I certainly only wish you well and there is so much you have to look forward to. Get a room you two
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| Mapletree Croydon 10 Jun 21 10.17am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Isn’t that illegal? To under-estimate someone?
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| Spiderman Horsham 10 Jun 21 10.17am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Get a room you two Exactly! What is happening here? All this agreement, it has to stop. Hope family is well Dan
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 10 Jun 21 10.24am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Exactly! What is happening here? All this agreement, it has to stop. Hope family is well Dan No it bloody doesn’t!! (See what I did there Spider)
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| Stirlingsays 10 Jun 21 11.23am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Get a room you two Nope, I'm not giving Dan any opportunity to get on his knees. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jun 2021 11.23am)
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