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Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 19 1.07am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

UKIP got absolutely hammered mate.

Yeah alright, 'Ukip got hammered'. I had managed to read it the first time.

 

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cardiff eagle Flag 27 May 19 1.09am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

UKIP got absolutely hammered mate.

You’re as frustrating as hard Brexiteers. All tonight is going to do is leave both Brexiteers and remainers claiming a victory by different methods. Both sides have an inability to see any opinion other than their own or make any concessions and that’s why we’re in this mess.

 
Maine Eagle Flag USA 27 May 19 1.14am

Originally posted by cardiff eagle

You’re as frustrating as hard Brexiteers. All tonight is going to do is leave both Brexiteers and remainers claiming a victory by different methods. Both sides have an inability to see any opinion other than their own or make any concessions and that’s why we’re in this mess.

Yes precisely.

Somehow that’s human nature though isn’t it, when you very strongly believe in something which has the potential to massively impact your life.

That is why the only way out of this mess is a new vote on if to leave, and if so, how.

 

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laddo Flag london 27 May 19 1.14am

In remain areas labour finished second to Lib Dem. In leave areas Labour finished second to brexit party. What does this mean? It means this country is still divided and broken due to David Cameron and the tories. Shame on them!

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 27 May 19 1.16am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

UKIP got absolutely hammered mate.

........and so did Change UK. They actually got beaten by the Yorkshire Party

 

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Maine Eagle Flag USA 27 May 19 1.19am

Originally posted by Jimenez

........and so did Change UK. They actually got beaten by the Yorkshire Party

Change UK got beaten by the Yorkshire pudding party, who got 3 votes and a packet of cheese and onion crisps.

 

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Maine Eagle Flag USA 27 May 19 1.22am

Cumulative totals so far show remain position parties getting easily more votes than pro leave parties.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 27 May 19 1.30am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Cumulative totals so far show remain position parties getting easily more votes than pro leave parties.

Update: 9,651,367 votes for parties backing the referendum result.
6,703,592 votes for parties backing a 2nd referendum.
When Labour discounted for being too ambiguous, 2nd referendum parties still behind: 7,304,926 to 6,703,592 votes. Tack on those EU Nationals who voted & wont be allowed to vote in a GE you are well off the mark

 

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Maine Eagle Flag USA 27 May 19 1.39am

Originally posted by Jimenez

Update: 9,651,367 votes for parties backing the referendum result.
6,703,592 votes for parties backing a 2nd referendum.
When Labour discounted for being too ambiguous, 2nd referendum parties still behind: 7,304,926 to 6,703,592 votes. Tack on those EU Nationals who voted & wont be allowed to vote in a GE you are well off the mark

Excluding the 2 main parties there is a 38% vote share for pro remain and 37% for pro leave parties.

Adding Labour to remain which is what most of their leadership are now saying and adding conservatives to leave, it is a clear majority to remain.

What you do not have, and never will have, is a majority for a no deal exit.

Regardless of tonight we can see the actual totals in the upcoming second referendum.

I wish you luck, as you are gonna need it based on tonight.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 27 May 19 1.44am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Excluding the 2 main parties there is a 38% vote share for pro remain and 37% for pro leave parties.

Adding Labour to remain which is what most of their leadership are now saying and adding conservatives to leave, it is a clear majority to remain.

What you do not have, and never will have, is a majority for a no deal exit.

Regardless of tonight we can see the actual totals in the upcoming second referendum.

I wish you luck, as you are gonna need it based on tonight.

Also factor in a lot of turnout in leave areas was down due to apathy, also a lot of people who voted Tory also voted to leave. There wasn't a major shift to remain at all.
As for luck I don't need it I was born lucky. Don't choke on your lobster

 

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Maine Eagle Flag USA 27 May 19 1.47am

Originally posted by Jimenez

Also factor in a lot of turnout in leave areas was down due to apathy, also a lot of people who voted Tory also voted to leave. There wasn't a major shift to remain at all.
As for luck I don't need it I was born lucky. Don't choke on your lobster

You seem a bit obsessed with lobster, Jimenez.

Like I already told you, I haven’t had any for a while. Your ability to listen and understand regarding my lobster consumption mirrors your inability to understand that the national mood is currently to remain, as tonight shows.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 19 1.49am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Excluding the 2 main parties there is a 38% vote share for pro remain and 37% for pro leave parties.

Adding Labour to remain which is what most of their leadership are now saying and adding conservatives to leave, it is a clear majority to remain.

What you do not have, and never will have, is a majority for a no deal exit.

Regardless of tonight we can see the actual totals in the upcoming second referendum.

I wish you luck, as you are gonna need it based on tonight.


Most of the serious remainers in the Labour vote would have voted Lib Dem or Change.....you are just making it up as you go along.

This will need time for more serious analysis.


Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2019 1.50am)

 

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Maine Eagle Flag USA 27 May 19 1.52am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Most of the serious remainers in the Labour vote would have voted Lib Dem or Change.....you are just making it up as you go along.

This will need time for more serious analysis.


Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2019 1.50am)

And leavers from anywhere and everywhere voted brexit party.

Agree, but initial data shows a cumulative win for remain parties here.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 19 1.58am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

And leavers from anywhere and everywhere voted brexit party.

Agree, but initial data shows a cumulative win for remain parties here.

No that's not accurate. Soft leavers would still have voted for Labour due to their policy of actually leaving.

What is true is that no 'no deal' voters would have voted Labour.

The real split between leave and remain isn't really knowable and that was always the case with Labour's position.

 

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Maine Eagle Flag USA 27 May 19 2.06am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No that's not accurate. Soft leavers would still have voted for Labour due to their policy of actually leaving.

What is true is that no 'no deal' voters would have voted Labour.

The real split between leave and remain isn't really knowable and that was always the case with Labour's position.

One thing which is clear is that there is no majority whatsoever for a no deal crash out of the EU.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 19 2.14am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

One thing which is clear is that there is no majority whatsoever for a no deal crash out of the EU.

Depends what you mean by majority.

It's probably the single most popular option amongst voters.

Regardless something's going to happen in October....leave, remain or a bacon sandwich.

Personally I'm starting to think that some form of soft Brexit will happen.....but that's just an impression.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2019 2.16am)

 

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Maine Eagle Flag USA 27 May 19 2.22am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Depends what you mean by majority.

It's probably the single most popular option amongst voters.

Regardless something's going to happen in October....leave, remain or a bacon sandwich.

Personally I'm starting to think that some form of soft Brexit will happen.....but that's just an impression.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2019 2.16am)

If you assume no ‘no deal’ supporters voted labor, lib dem, change or green, and only some who voted conservative in addition to the vast majority of Brexit voters (but not all) and ukip, then the answer is clear that the single most popular option would be to revoke article 50 rather than crash out, assuming it’s no deal or revoke.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 19 2.29am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

If you assume no ‘no deal’ supporters voted labor, lib dem, change or green, and only some who voted conservative in addition to the vast majority of Brexit voters (but not all) and ukip, then the answer is clear that the single most popular option would be to revoke article 50 rather than crash out, assuming it’s no deal or revoke.

I honestly don't know.

All I do know is that when it comes to MEP votes, Farage is going to have the biggest party by some margin.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 May 2019 2.30am)

 

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Invalid user 2019 Flag 27 May 19 2.53am

A result that can be interpreted many ways and tells us little about what the people want as a whole. The key take home is that both Labour and the Conservatives got the hammering they deserved for not really listening to their voters. I wouldn't call this a vote for 'No Deal', but nor would I call it a vote for 'Remain' either. Corbyn came second to the Liberal Democrats in his own constituency too.

The new Tory leader has a tricky task on his hands, but then so does the EU since it's being acknowledged that there is something of a shake up in many European countries. If the EU had offered member countries more autonomy over immigration numbers it's unlikely we or it would be in this situation to begin with.

 
Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 May 19 6.43am

My thoughts, some votes are still to be counted.

Labour and especially the Tories were crushed. At the last GE they got 80% of the vote between them this time it looks like around 24%.

Brexit party just 6 weeks old swept all before. The politicians had better pay attention.

Lib Dems gobbled up the Remain vote.

The Greens have done well again.

UKIP collapsed. As I have said previously we don't vote for extremists in this country so all the nonsense about the rise of the far right* is just that.
*I don't believe believe they are far right but many do.

Change UK. Who? They're slogan should be we want Change by remaining the same. No surprise they failed I think the voters saw them for what they were a bunch of bitter losers from both parties.

So what now.

Tories, worst election ever. If I was a Tory MP on a small majority and wanting to save my job I would be thinking warm and fuzzy thoughts about Boris. None of the other candidates have brand recognition I am not sure he would be a good PM but for the Tories this is about damage limitation.

Labour. Last night Emily Thornberry said "the results show we need a second referendum". Really Emily is that what you take from this? Lord Adonis at least had the good sense to refuse to speak to the media.

My guess is that for once Corbyn is actually right I think a GE may happen before the year is out with a new Tory leader and possibly a new Labour leader.


Edited by Badger11 (27 May 2019 6.45am)

 

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