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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 27 May 19 9.50am

Originally posted by Badger11

This is a classic from the BBC straight out of the Stalin book for accountancy.

1.Anti Brexit 40.4 (Lib Dems, Green, SNP, Change UK Plaid)
2.Brexit 34.9 (Brexit UKIP)
3. Tories 9
4. Labour 14.1

So the Anti Brexit parties have it.

Hang on why are the Tories and Labour not included? If they are excluded because they are more than just about Brexit well then that also applied to the Lib Dems. Green, SNP etc. If you are going to tally up the parties you have to include Labour and Tory as Brexit which is their official policy.

By that logic, we must send our commiserations to Man City because, if you add up all the points gained by all the other clubs competing in the league, they actually finished bottom.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 May 19 9.54am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I admire your energy levels. I gave up going through the process of complaining to the BBC about six months ago. Looking at their coverage, especially the website you could end up doing little else all day.

The fact that they are on the public purse when their stance on Brexit has been laid bare is incriminating.

I just try to limit my interactions with the BBC down to a minimal now and wait for the day when their unjust tax is made an optional one instead of one that's deliberately difficult to avoid.

I don't normally complain but this morning so many people throwing fake numbers around. It's one thing for people on this board including myself to extrapolate what we think happened but broadcasters need to be more responsible than us.

The BBC would have been better off not even trying to show that graph as Tom said these numbers are fantasy. Just because someone voted Green or SNP doesn't mean they are Remainers and vice versa.

Anyway rant over I'm off for a walk around Highgate and possibly Kenwood house.

 

One more point
Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 27 May 19 9.54am

Originally posted by silvertop

53% remain.
47% leave

Maths not you strong point?

Labour ARE NOT REMAIN. They’re confused and here and there.

 

COYP
Matov Flag 27 May 19 9.55am

The Brexit Party won it. As simple as that. And by a fair old margin.

Clearly the Lib/Green + silly hangers on can be presented as a 'Remain' vote but let us not forget that they had the chance to co-operate before these elections to campaign on a single issue Remain ticket and chose not to. I get why the Remain Retards are clinging on to this fantasy but it lacks genuine credibility. Throw in the lower turn out in Leave areas compared to those of Remain, a situation that would change if there was another re-run of June 23rd and it all starts to present a different picture.

Single biggest issue now is how the Labour Party play it. I get why they will be under pressure to come down in favour of another referendum (and you could argue that McDonnel did that this morning) but I suspect Corbyn will still want to try and walk the tight-rope for a bit longer.

I am in danger of boring even myself about this point now but what truly matters for Labour is the Constituency break down of this vote and the reality is that this is still heavily skewed in favour of Leave.

For anybody who takes this stuff far more seriously than they should then the results from the NE and the West Midlands are the ones worthy of serious study as they tell Labour that coming out fully in favour of a second referendum, let alone revoke, pose serious problems if they want to win a majority.

The Tory dilemma is much easier to comprehend. Anything else other than a meaningful Brexit by October and the Brexit party stand against them and decimates their vote. Probably makes it all much simpler for them.

And yes, the Libs did well but still only pulled in 20% of the national vote and based on a low turn out. Not a good look in terms of the bigger picture.

 

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becky Flag over the moon 27 May 19 10.02am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The BBC are so impartial, so objective.

Unfit for purpose.


Never bite the hand that feeds you......

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 May 19 10.19am

Originally posted by becky


Never bite the hand that feeds you......

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All that paid is Matt Le Blanc's lunch bill.

 

Red and Blue Army!
jeeagles Flag 27 May 19 10.29am

Originally posted by Badger11

This is a classic from the BBC straight out of the Stalin book for accountancy.

1.Anti Brexit 40.4 (Lib Dems, Green, SNP, Change UK Plaid)
2.Brexit 34.9 (Brexit UKIP)
3. Tories 9
4. Labour 14.1

So the Anti Brexit parties have it.

Hang on why are the Tories and Labour not included? If they are excluded because they are more than just about Brexit well then that also applied to the Lib Dems. Green, SNP etc. If you are going to tally up the parties you have to include Labour and Tory as Brexit which is their official policy.

As expected a tightly run race between leave and remain but remain is split. I think many of the Tory’s are now pretty much a leave party. I still can’t work out what Labour are, but many of their Welsh and Northern voters would only vote labour despite voting to leave.

Scotland yet to declare last I heard. Likely to be SNP for remain.

The countries still decided so who knows what the outcome of a second referendum will be. I don’t think it’s a good idea as it will just split the country more.

Would be more interesting to work out what’s happening across the rest of Europe. Reports are saying that Pro EU parties have a reduced majority.

 
Park Road Flag 27 May 19 10.34am

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

And leavers from anywhere and everywhere voted brexit party.

Agree, but initial data shows a cumulative win for remain parties here.



Maine's logic in a nutshell

In a late change on how English football is won. Arsenal, Tottenham, and Chelsea's results have been added up and now LONDON are the official premier League winners

Edited by Park Road (27 May 2019 10.35am)

 
DANGERCLOSE Flag London 27 May 19 10.35am

 
Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 May 19 11.19am

Originally posted by silvertop

53% remain.
47% leave

Maths not you strong point?

52% leave
48% remain
but this wasn't a big enough majority to accept the result!

 
Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 27 May 19 11.30am

Originally posted by Spiderman

52% leave
48% remain
but this wasn't a big enough majority to accept the result!

And his calculations are bollox anyway.

 

COYP
DANGERCLOSE Flag London 27 May 19 12.02pm

 
Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 27 May 19 2.07pm

Seeing more remain MP’s lying that it’s a victory for remain. They have no shame.

 

COYP
Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 19 3.04pm

Is anyone not actually running for the Tory leadership right now?

 

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 May 19 3.12pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Is anyone not actually running for the Tory leadership right now?

I'm not.

 

Red and Blue Army!
Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 19 3.13pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I'm not.


It's only a matter of time.

This time tomorrow you won't be able to help yourself.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 May 19 3.23pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


It's only a matter of time.

This time tomorrow you won't be able to help yourself.

I don't think it will be any of the big-guns who will win it. Irish media are really in overdrive about how terrible Johnson is but I just can't see it happening anyway. Just more a hunch than any educated view. There are often outside candidates who come from behind - I haven't seen enough of the news to know. I wouldn't be surprised if it were a woman.

 

Red and Blue Army!
Maine Eagle Flag USA 27 May 19 3.49pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Is anyone not actually running for the Tory leadership right now?

Ann Widdecombe / Gollum.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 19 3.58pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I don't think it will be any of the big-guns who will win it. Irish media are really in overdrive about how terrible Johnson is but I just can't see it happening anyway. Just more a hunch than any educated view. There are often outside candidates who come from behind - I haven't seen enough of the news to know. I wouldn't be surprised if it were a woman.

We haven't had one of those since Thatcher.

 

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 19 4.05pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Ann Widdecombe / Gollum.


I don't know....but I think I'm right in saying that Gollum's ring has certainly been fingered more times than Ann's.

 

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