Seems very harsh, petty and pretty silly from Labour.

However, it's very in-line with the new wave far left who have taken over the party.....getting rid of those dissenting voices one by one.

But this leadership is what the membership wanted so at least it isn't undemocratic.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 May 2019 1.22pm)

In my opinion mainstream politics in this country is finished. Time for a change and a total rethink on how our country is run. There is not one politician that I trust to do something they are told. Liars, cheats, scoundrels the lot of them. They have spent the last thirty years learning how not to answer a question and now they have taken it a step forward and quite simply make s*** up if it suits them to do so. Had enough of it frankly, maybe it's time to move abroad, (but I would miss visiting the mighty Palace then).

I voted remain and tend to vote for a centre left party in a general election.
I don’t understand the delusion of people claiming the European results were a win for remain. It seems to me the liberals and the greens were beaten by the brexit party both in seats and share of the vote. Lumping labour in with those results just doesn’t work as many labour voters voted for brexit.
I can’t understand people who claim to have liberal views now want to disregard the result of a democratic referendum based purely on economic reasons. I think this whole situation reflects so badly on us as a democracy and would 100% vote the other way if we have another referendum.

So you believe people realised how much worse off they would be post Brexit? I don't. The economics was not properly explained and the people trusted populist statements.

In addition, the people that voted are no longer the the same as the people who would live with the vote. The demographics have changed such that a Brexit vote now would be unlikely. Young people will refuse to be saddled with the lack of informed choice that drove the first vote. The longer the impasse lasts the more the voters will have changed.

You don't appear to have taken all of the data into account. In seats yes but in terms of overall vote share:

Brexit plus UKIP = 34.9%

LibDems, Greens, SNP, Change, Plaid Cymru = 40.4%

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And night is day.

A party that did not exist 6 weeks ago becomes the largest party after the election and one of the largest in the EU Parliament with 32% of the vote. Only 5 seats? Doesn't sound much but there are only about 70+ seats on offer and it's not a fair analogy as he left UKIP.

Change UK formed about the same time only got 600,000 votes and about 4% of the vote yet some people are saying for a new party they did OK.

If 32% of the vote is failure I bet Corbyn and the Tories would bite your hand off for that kind of failure.

I voted remain and tend to vote for a centre left party in a general election.
I don’t understand the delusion of people claiming the European results were a win for remain. It seems to me the liberals and the greens were beaten by the brexit party both in seats and share of the vote. Lumping labour in with those results just doesn’t work as many labour voters voted for brexit.
I can’t understand people who claim to have liberal views now want to disregard the result of a democratic referendum based purely on economic reasons. I think this whole situation reflects so badly on us as a democracy and would 100% vote the other way if we have another referendum.

I would urge you to think again.

The referendum was NOT democratic. No referendum in the UK can be because referendums are not recognised in our system. What gave it democratic legitimacy were the commitments given to respect the result and the enactment of Article 50. However everyone, MPs included, are entitled to change their mind in the light of new knowledge or changed circumstances. Commitments can be withdrawn and Acts repealed.

Rather than being a failure of our democracy what we are witnessing is a triumph of it, as the will of Parliament is being shown to be paramount. So this actually reflects very well on us as a democracy. It's just such a pity that so many don't understand this.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (28 May 2019 3.26pm)

What a complete and utter load of tosh.

The referendum was forwarded by a democratically elected government and had previous precedent. Its decision was again affirmed by the parliament of democratically elected MPs.

You really have no position or right to present a case that the referendum result was not democratic.

What is so hard about accepting the simple fact that referendums have no legal legitimacy in our system of representative democracy?