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 Maine Eagle  USA 29 May 19 12.39pm |
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Originally posted by becky
Trading under WTO rules doesn't actually require there to be a hard border, so it's purely an EU problem. The hard border is down to who is in the EU and who isn’t. Generally speaking there needs to be checks and customs etc when trading between an EU and non EU country, particularly for live animals etc. This means that if there is an overnight no deal exit, then this immediately creates a hard border in Ireland, which is where the backstop debate comes in.
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 becky over the moon 29 May 19 12.43pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
You keep missing the point, I think your spidey sense is misfiring. I list over 20 people or groups and you come back with individual responses to 1 or 2 of them. There is such a thing as Trump Derangement Syndrome. Something else I have noticed is Brexit Derangement Syndrome. People who suffer from that think every single person who warns against it is disingenuous and has nefarious ulterior motives. A BDS sufferer can never accept a single criticism or possible downside of Brexit. I think the head of the National Union of farmers is warning against a no deal crash out of the EU as it will be a catastrophe for the farming industry. Yet Farmers in the South West voted for Brexit invery large numbers - mainly because they see this as an opportunity to escape from the rigidity of EU 'box ticking', as this article explains.....
A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers |
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| Maine Eagle USA 29 May 19 12.46pm |
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Comedy. I think someone should answer for that enormous lie.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| Rubin 29 May 19 1.37pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
You keep missing the point, I think your spidey sense is misfiring. I list over 20 people or groups and you come back with individual responses to 1 or 2 of them. There is such a thing as Trump Derangement Syndrome. Something else I have noticed is Brexit Derangement Syndrome. People who suffer from that think every single person who warns against it is disingenuous and has nefarious ulterior motives. A BDS sufferer can never accept a single criticism or possible downside of Brexit. I think the head of the National Union of farmers is warning against a no deal crash out of the EU as it will be a catastrophe for the farming industry. There's counter examples and opinions to those that you list. The majority of Brexiters who gave it proper thought accept that there will be some negative consequences of leaving, but cam to the conclusion that overall, leaving is the correct thing to do. No one has ever said it will be perfect. There's no need to strawman.
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| Invalid user 2019 29 May 19 1.46pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Agreed it's a publicity stunt. If you have the money and this chap crowd funded it so he will get his day in court. "Someone is guilty of the offence if a prosecution can prove that the official wilfully neglected to perform their duty - or "misconducts" themselves - to such a degree that it amounts to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder" The £350 million per week claim does not recognise that some of that money comes back to the UK as a rebate. Boris will argue his point was that the rebate comes with strings attached and that having left the EU we can decide 100% how that money is spent. Edited by Badger11 (29 May 2019 1.12pm) Yes, I can't see this going anywhere. It seems like it's designed to damage his leadership chances. Edited by dollardays (29 May 2019 1.47pm)
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| Maine Eagle USA 29 May 19 1.49pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Yes, I can't see this going anywhere. It seems like it's designed to damage his leadership chances. Edited by dollardays (29 May 2019 1.47pm) If this results in a conviction then Farage will be doing life in strangeways inside 6 months. Joking aside if this makes politicians stop and think, for just 1 second, before spreading at best somewhat misleading and at worse totally false lies in terms of stats and figures, then it’s a good thing.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| Maine Eagle USA 29 May 19 1.52pm |
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Originally posted by becky
Yet Farmers in the South West voted for Brexit invery large numbers - mainly because they see this as an opportunity to escape from the rigidity of EU 'box ticking', as this article explains..... Think you need a subscription to the FT to access that link, Becky. I think many farmers didn’t vote for a no deal exit, they voted for a managed exit. The head of the national farmers union is very clear on her grave concerns about the disaster of a no deal exit for the entire industry.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| Midlands Eagle 29 May 19 1.58pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
If this results in a conviction then Farage will be doing life in strangeways inside 6 months. Joking aside if this makes politicians stop and think, for just 1 second, before spreading at best somewhat misleading and at worse totally false lies in terms of stats and figures, then it’s a good thing. If this results in a conviction then George Osborne should be next up in front of the beak for his comment that if Brexit won the economy would immediately crash and he would have to have an emergency budget
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| Midlands Eagle 29 May 19 2.03pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Did he jump ship or was he pushed? Seem to recall Midlands Eagle wasn’t too fond. He was pushed. There is a limit to the amount of final warnings that one can give someone and unfortunately he was someone that just couldn't argue his point without resorting to personal insults
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| Stirlingsays 29 May 19 2.05pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
If this results in a conviction then Farage will be doing life in strangeways inside 6 months. Joking aside if this makes politicians stop and think, for just 1 second, before spreading at best somewhat misleading and at worse totally false lies in terms of stats and figures, then it’s a good thing. True, we all have reason to be annoyed by liars and those who manipulate to push distortions to get the outcomes they want. Still, the day we get politicians who don't do that is the day it isn't successful. As people enjoy hearing their own biases fed back to them....I can reliably inform you that this day will be a cold day in hell.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Maine Eagle USA 29 May 19 2.09pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If Johnson gets down to the last two candidates who will then go to the party membership for selection it will be a no contest. The left correctly fear him the most so that's why this case is happening. Hopefully the majority of Tory MPs will do what their opposition most fears. That said however, I don't think that Johnson is even the most ardent leaver amongst the candidates. But he can win the Tories an election.......it will be interesting to see what happens. Reminds me of the John Major situation, I think one of the lesser names will sneak this because of his character, as well as his views. Many believe Johnson will finally rip apart the tories as he pushes for no deal against all odds. With politics changing massively and with the very future of the party at stake, perhaps a safer pair of hands makes more sense.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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Park Road  29 May 19 2.13pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
He was pushed. There is a limit to the amount of final warnings that one can give someone and unfortunately he was someone that just couldn't argue his point without resorting to personal insults Warnings were a plentiful and he wasn't even palace... I suppose as in life... some posters/people get more of a squeeze than others... I'd have loved to have got a warning...but I'll take it on the chin and soldier on... Not blaming anyone.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 29 May 19 2.13pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
If this results in a conviction then George Osborne should be next up in front of the beak for his comment that if Brexit won the economy would immediately crash and he would have to have an emergency budget Not before Tony Blair
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| Invalid user 2019 29 May 19 2.17pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
If this results in a conviction then George Osborne should be next up in front of the beak for his comment that if Brexit won the economy would immediately crash and he would have to have an emergency budget If we carried on too far down this path, we'd have to conduct the business of parliament from prison! Hopefully the current political shifts will eventually result in something better aligned to the common man, though I won't get my hopes up. Few of the privileged Etonians representing us appear to have experienced decent, hard working lives and so it's no wonder that they have no shame in bulls***ting the public and looking down on our every day concerns.
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| Spiderman Horsham 29 May 19 3.44pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
If this results in a conviction then George Osborne should be next up in front of the beak for his comment that if Brexit won the economy would immediately crash and he would have to have an emergency budget And Carney, Hammond et al. Blair will have to follow, his warnings about WMD that led to hundreds of casualties was far worse than anything Boris has said. I'd like to know the background of this "entrepreneur" and who has backed him
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| Spiderman Horsham 29 May 19 3.47pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Reminds me of the John Major situation, I think one of the lesser names will sneak this because of his character, as well as his views. Many believe Johnson will finally rip apart the tories as he pushes for no deal against all odds. With politics changing massively and with the very future of the party at stake, perhaps a safer pair of hands makes more sense. I think they have done that already. I can't see anyway that they will stay as one party. Not convinced Labour won't go the same way as well.
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| Spiderman Horsham 29 May 19 3.50pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
You keep missing the point, I think your spidey sense is misfiring. I list over 20 people or groups and you come back with individual responses to 1 or 2 of them. There is such a thing as Trump Derangement Syndrome. Something else I have noticed is Brexit Derangement Syndrome. People who suffer from that think every single person who warns against it is disingenuous and has nefarious ulterior motives. A BDS sufferer can never accept a single criticism or possible downside of Brexit. I think the head of the National Union of farmers is warning against a no deal crash out of the EU as it will be a catastrophe for the farming industry. Have any of the remainers on here accepted any possible advantages of leaving the EU?
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| dannyboy1978 29 May 19 3.54pm |
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And if it ever gets found out Huawei are spying may should good go down for treason after being warned by her own secret service.
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