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 silvertop  Portishead 11 Jul 16 12.03pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I'm one of those "Hardline Tories" who certainly won't be defecting to UKIP ! And I know quite a few like me who have never expressed their desire to leave. It might take the form of a party split where the right part breaks away and absorbs UKIP rather than some mass cross floor migration all in the direction of a startled Mr Carswell.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jul 16 12.11pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
It might take the form of a party split where the right part breaks away and absorbs UKIP rather than some mass cross floor migration all in the direction of a startled Mr Carswell. Only party I can see splitting is 'Labour' thanks to Jeremy Corbyn.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jul 16 12.34pm |
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Angela Eagle still campaigning by claiming that the Referendum was a disaster for Britain. Good luck with that Angela.
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leifandersonshair  Newport 11 Jul 16 12.35pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Only party I can see splitting is 'Labour' thanks to Jeremy Corbyn. Labour more likely to split than Tories, certainly. All the Blairites can join their like minded Tory chums on the government benches, or call themselves Blue Labour or something. Wouldn't be a bad thing, potentially- at least then people would know what Labour stood for.
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 11 Jul 16 2.16pm |
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
Labour more likely to split than Tories, certainly. All the Blairites can join their like minded Tory chums on the government benches, or call themselves Blue Labour or something. Wouldn't be a bad thing, potentially- at least then people would know what Labour stood for. This. At least someone voting Red would get Red and not an ever so slightly lighter shade of Blue.
Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune) |
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| davidpercival Croydon 11 Jul 16 3.39pm |
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Labour may be splitting but to say it is "thanks to Corbyn" is ridiculous. It is Ms Eagle (nothing to do with Palace) who is doing the splitting. She is standing against a leader elected with a 60% vote 9 months ago. I would say it is like saying that the Christians started the fight with the lions, except that Ms eagle is no lion and Corbyn is not a Christian (as far as I know). Originally posted by Willo
Only party I can see splitting is 'Labour' thanks to Jeremy Corbyn.
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| silvertop Portishead 11 Jul 16 4.09pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Only party I can see splitting is 'Labour' thanks to Jeremy Corbyn. I wouldn't count on it Willo. I agree that labour is more likely at the moment and accept that your party is a robust entity with very deep historic and cultural roots that must have survived many shocks. However, you almost imploded over Maastricht. That will seem like a tea party compared to the internecine carnage that poor Theresa is now going to have to manage. Rather her than me. Perhaps you will have a party in its current form when the all clear sounds. Perhaps you won't..?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Jul 16 4.10pm |
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Angela Eagle has done well with her first press conference... Seems other more important things were happening!
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Jul 16 4.36pm |
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Originally posted by john_kane
Labour MPs are ridiculous! They are doing this because they want to get re-elected a.k.a keep their jobs. But this is the worst way to go about it. They should have known: a) Corbyn (legend) wouldn't resign regardless of MP pressure b) Corbyn will be re-elected by the party members. So this will either lead to them damaging the party, or setting up a new party, which will damage them in the polls further. Why not just get behind Corbyn, let the public decide whether he is a good leader at upcoming elections, and if they struggle at the polls then try to give him the boot with justifiable reasons.
No you can't do that, it makes too much sense!
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 11 Jul 16 4.52pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Angela Eagle has done well with her first press conference... Seems other more important things were happening! Thank the lord for that I would hate to think she was the Labour leader in the near future...
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jul 16 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by john_kane
Labour MPs are ridiculous! They are doing this because they want to get re-elected a.k.a keep their jobs. But this is the worst way to go about it. They should have known: a) Corbyn (legend) wouldn't resign regardless of MP pressure b) Corbyn will be re-elected by the party members. So this will either lead to them damaging the party, or setting up a new party, which will damage them in the polls further. Why not just get behind Corbyn, let the public decide whether he is a good leader at upcoming elections, and if they struggle at the polls then try to give him the boot with justifiable reasons. Yeah, I think that's exactly what they should do. Then we will have at least another term without Labour in office. Rejoice.
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| leifandersonshair Newport 12 Jul 16 12.41pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Yeah, I think that's exactly what they should do. Then we will have at least another term without Labour in office. Rejoice. Both main parties currently completely screwed up and dysfunctional. If Labour can stop the bickering and get a clear message out, they actually stand a decent chance come next GE. Keep hammering home the message on equality and the NHS (2 areas the Tories are massively distrusted on) and people will listen. But (assuming no snap election) that's 4 years away- the way things are going, Labour will have split in half, so will the Tories, and a Lib Dem-SNP alliance will come through on the inside to pip them to the post
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| elgrande bedford 12 Jul 16 2.56pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I think an early GE as Mrs May will want to be an elected PM can't see why she should wait even a day. Jeremy is the only person I can think of with his integrity intact after the events of the last 2 weeks. I don't think Ms Eagle and her friends have any choice to offer the voters 'closet tories' is what they say. Jeremy has his integrity in tact......are you sure,he has spent the last 40 years campaigning against Europe, and now he voted remain.....really
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jul 16 3.49pm |
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
Both main parties currently completely screwed up and dysfunctional. If Labour can stop the bickering and get a clear message out, they actually stand a decent chance come next GE. Keep hammering home the message on equality and the NHS (2 areas the Tories are massively distrusted on) and people will listen. But (assuming no snap election) that's 4 years away- the way things are going, Labour will have split in half, so will the Tories, and a Lib Dem-SNP alliance will come through on the inside to pip them to the post The new cabinet will have enough on their plate without another general election campaign.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 12 Jul 16 6.02pm |
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Corbyn said his view was 7/10 remain but wanted to see changes I don't see anything wrong there.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jul 16 6.54pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Corbyn said his view was 7/10 remain but wanted to see changes I don't see anything wrong there. Except that a remain win would have changed the chances of EU reform from slim to none.
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| chris123 hove actually 12 Jul 16 8.04pm |
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Well he's on the ballot.
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