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Originally posted by Kermit8

Banning them from having a proper army also helped like they did to the Japs. Oh, and making them wealthy. That helped too. They just can't can't be arsed with genocide, rape and invasion. Too busy with the filthy lucre. No fun anymore those two.


Not fun when the west especially America paid for their safety all through the cold war yet is mostly despised for it.

EU countries should pay for their own defence.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 02 Jun 16 12.13pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Banning them from having a proper army also helped like they did to the Japs. Oh, and making them wealthy. That helped too. They just can't can't be arsed with genocide, rape and invasion. Too busy with the filthy lucre. No fun anymore those two.

I don't think that's the case. The need to compete for territory, as a means of status and economic power, was gone, with the demise of the British and French Empires, the world changed dramatically. Before WWII the influence of the US, on the economy and global stage, was f**ked from 1929 onwards.

Post WWII empires and territory was no longer relevant. The US and wealth production was the new source of political capital, economy etc and the competition was the Soviet and Sino-Communists.

As such the future of European nations, really was re-defined by the need for mutual co-operation, rather than competition. For those across Europe, as the national liberation movements flared, was really about which 'way' they would go, Capitalism or Socialism.

Empire was a dead beast, it could not compete post war with the socialism and the power of US capitalism. You could even see this in the divisions within the UK, with the rise of Labour and Trade Unionism.

WWIII was fought through proxies, and called the Cold War. We didn't call it WWIII because it was 'different', the wars were fought around the world, by the super powers. Not so much for territory per se, but for access to resources and markets.

 


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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 02 Jun 16 1.04pm

See our news channels have conveniently forgotten to report this [Link]

The whole vote is a massive scam rig, the in will win even when 99.9% vote out.

 


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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

See our news channels have conveniently forgotten to report this [Link]

The whole vote is a massive scam rig, the in will win even when 99.9% vote out.

Doesn't matter who wins, or by how much, the other side will bleat about 'biased liberal/right wing media', rigged votes etc etc.

I suspect when it comes down to it, the In camp will win- people will vote cautiously, for the status quo, especially if they're not sure. Will be close whatever- probably no more than 55-45 whichever way.

Batten down the hatches for the last hysterical shrieking from both sides- latest is that staying in the EU will (somehow) push up housing market- presumably to try and appeal to younger voters. Madness and complete BS arguments and 'facts' from both sides, increasingly nonsensical and crazed!

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 02 Jun 16 1.54pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8


You are not threatening to 'leave the country'?


Don't be silly. There's more foreigners outside of England then there are here. For the moment.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Jun 16 1.56pm

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 02 Jun 16 3.02pm

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 02 Jun 16 4.19pm

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

See our news channels have conveniently forgotten to report this [Link]

The whole vote is a massive scam rig, the in will win even when 99.9% vote out.

Because its not actually a major issue. Whilst people will receive a registration card, you still need to be on the local electoral roll in order to receive a ballot. When you go into the polling station, you hand over the card, they check you against the electoral register, and then if you are on it, you get a ballot.

So even if you've accidently gotten a referendum voting card, you still need to be a registered UK voter, eligible to vote in UK elections, in order to trade that in for a ballot

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 02 Jun 16 4.24pm

Originally posted by leifandersonshair

Doesn't matter who wins, or by how much, the other side will bleat about 'biased liberal/right wing media', rigged votes etc etc.

I suspect when it comes down to it, the In camp will win- people will vote cautiously, for the status quo, especially if they're not sure. Will be close whatever- probably no more than 55-45 whichever way.

Batten down the hatches for the last hysterical shrieking from both sides- latest is that staying in the EU will (somehow) push up housing market- presumably to try and appeal to younger voters. Madness and complete BS arguments and 'facts' from both sides, increasingly nonsensical and crazed!

Quite, because neither side will be able to accept that they 'aren't the will of the people'. The 'Out' campaign already seem to be getting their knickers in a twist, over 'non-UK citizens' receiving polling cards, without remembering that polling stations verify these against the electoral register before issuing a ballot.

Iain Duncan Smith, you'd think, would know how the basic process of voting works... The only successes of the Out and In campaigns have been me realising I don't like the representation of both of them.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 02 Jun 16 4.25pm

Originally posted by appletees

All Politicians should wear this!!

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To quote a great man, all politicians are liars and murderers.

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

Yes indeed. It's all good news, Hoof. City traders are planning for sterling to drop 20% on Brexit and the dollar to go up 20%.

It's going to be great.

Completely agree with that! The ££ is far too strong, so we'll be able to export more. Plus the promised drop in house prices, and (as the leader of the Remain campaign told us) higher wages for workers. Might even be able to get on the property ladder.

 

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