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DanH Flag SW2 31 May 19 5.28pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Wuuuuu?

So I can say I f***ing hate Albanian people and its not being racist?

You can be racist towards people from a certain country, last time I checked.

Having an issue with racism is not being PC, its being a decent human being.

Judging people because of what is on their passport is bonkers.

It's xenophobic rather than racist, but still as disgusting.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 31 May 19 5.32pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

I thought Jesus played for Coventry and then went out on loan to Northampton?

If Bicycle Repair Man were here, he would retort to this in only 1 way.

COBBLERS.

I type corrected.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 31 May 19 5.34pm

Originally posted by DanH

It's xenophobic rather than racist, but still as disgusting.

Yeh true, I think they are a bit interchangeable though these days, but the classic meanings:

Xenophobia:

Dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.

Racism:

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 31 May 19 5.40pm

Originally posted by DanH

Why?

Because you are offendewd by such a harmnless comment that is not even directed at you.

That is snowflake behaviour and typical of millennials types who have been raised on liberal hogwash.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 31 May 19 5.48pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Like Heseltine I voted Lib Dem last week, for exactly the same reasons. Want them to throw me out too?

You actually pay subs towards the Tory party?

I'd say you voting Lib Dem is actually an accurate reflection of the political opinions we have seen on this board.

If I were in a position of authority within a party would I throw someone out of the party for voting for a different party? Not as a one off protest by a long standing member.....However, it's valid outside of that.

As for you Wisbech, I found your responses as unconvincing as always and once again you didn't tell us where you politics differed in any meaningful way from the left on these boards.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 31 May 19 5.51pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Yeh true, I think they are a bit interchangeable though these days, but the classic meanings:

Xenophobia:

Dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.

Racism:

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Na....you and Dan are just Anglophobes.

You're against a national of a country asserting their right to their own country.

I've probably taught more foreigners and helped more foreigners than I care to remember, it doesn't mean I wish to give my country away.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 31 May 19 6.05pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Na....you and Dan are just Anglophobes.

You're against a national of a country asserting their right to their own country.

I've probably taught more foreigners and helped more foreigners than I care to remember, it doesn't mean I wish to give my country away.

Flippin eck Stirlingsays you dont half sound like a bloke with an interesting moustache in the 1930s sometimes.

I believe this started about a comment regarding Albanian's washing cars. Quite a stretch to go from those meager beginnings to a debate about your "right to your country" whatever that actually means?

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

I am not an Anglophobe at all, that is a silly claim. I am also not a fan of xenophobia or racism where it rears its ugly 2 heads.

There is a middle ground, where people can be both non anglophobes, AND not appreciate xenophobia. I guess I am inhabiting this particular area.

Not sure what your "right to your own country" means exactly, but let me guess - kick out Johnny Foreigner and take back your jobs and women?

What does "give your country away" actually mean?

What is it that you want, the England of the 14th century, where you would perhaps only see a Frenchman on the end of a longbow, and all faces around you are lilywhite and English at all times?

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Stirlingsays Flag 31 May 19 6.24pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Flippin eck Stirlingsays you dont half sound like a bloke with an interesting moustache in the 1930s sometimes.


How dare you criticise my carefully groomed moustache!

Still, I'm happy that you enjoy my Oliver Hardy impressions.

As for Hitler....Na....I just don't like the socialism...and the...you know...killing Jews bit.

I actually quite like Jews....the rational ones anyway.

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

I believe this started about a comment regarding Albanian's washing cars. Quite a stretch to go from those meager beginnings to a debate about your "right to your country" whatever that actually means?

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

A Sith lord?

Yeah, but Luke Skywalker was into incest.....so maybe the dark side had a point....but just with terrible facial acne.


Originally posted by Maine Eagle

I am not an Anglophobe at all, that is a silly claim. I am also not a fan of xenophobia or racism where it rears its ugly 2 heads.

Hang on....if you want to throw 'phobes' about, you can't start complaining when they bounce back me lad.


Originally posted by Maine Eagle

There is a middle ground, where people can be both non anglophobes, AND not appreciate xenophobia. I guess I am inhabiting this particular area.

Na....when you start throwing pies, you better enjoy the taste of pie.


Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Not sure what your "right to your own country" means exactly, but let me guess - kick out Johnny Foreigner and take back your jobs and women?

Only the attractive ones.

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

What does "give your country away" actually mean?

It means allowing your country to demographically shift so that both the power and territory within it are increasingly controlled by those who don't identify with that country.


Originally posted by Maine Eagle

What is it that you want, the England of the 14th century, where you would perhaps only see a Frenchman on the end of a longbow, and all faces around you are lilywhite and English at all times?

The French are Europeans.

In terms of percentages requirements that is a difficult topic to broach.....it's not a skin colour issue, it's an allegiance one.

England has to have a majority of English people within it to actually be English. Our capital has lost that identity and our second largest city is about too.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 31 May 19 6.31pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

tell us where you politics differed in any meaningful way from the left on these boards.

What do you think not wanting a Labour government under Corbyn actually means?

The problem with those on the hard right is that they think all those who stand slightly less to the right than them are on the "left".

It's a bit like looking at a compass and thinking that if you want to go north, but find yourself headed NNE, that you will end up in the south.

I see myself as to the right of the centre and not on the left.

It's like you being really convinced that the BBC has a left wing bias when the truth is that does a very reasonable job of trying to ensure that all points of view get air time. It ALL depends on your personal perspective.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 31 May 19 6.38pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What do you think not wanting a Labour government under Corbyn actually means?

The problem with those on the hard right is that they think all those who stand slightly less to the right than them are on the "left".

It's a bit like looking at a compass and thinking that if you want to go north, but find yourself headed NNE, that you will end up in the south.

I see myself as to the right of the centre and not on the left.

It's like you being really convinced that the BBC has a left wing bias when the truth is that does a very reasonable job of trying to ensure that all points of view get air time. It ALL depends on your personal perspective.

Still, no actual policies like I requested.

'You doth protest too much'.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 31 May 19 7.09pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Still, no actual policies like I requested.

'You doth protest too much'.

What do you think fiscal conservatism and a liberal social policy agenda mean?

Do you expect me to produce a manifesto? If so you are going to be disappointed.

I have described where I stand. If you cannot understand it then that's not my problem. Most people will.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 31 May 19 7.13pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What do you think fiscal conservatism and a liberal social policy agenda mean?

That you are on the right of the liberal democrats.

The Tories aren't just about fiscal conservatism, one nation or not.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 31 May 19 7.14pm

Originally posted by DanH

It's xenophobic rather than racist, but still as disgusting.

You outrage is bloody funny.

Firstly, the fact that you think that offending people is so important and secondly because you so are precious.

I saw an appallingly juvenile comedy on TV the other night called 'Famalan' where Black people were continuously using White stereotypes.

That is on my TV in a predominantly and traditionally White country.

Got a problem with that?

 

DanH Flag SW2 31 May 19 7.23pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You outrage is bloody funny.

Firstly, the fact that you think that offending people is so important and secondly because you so are precious.

I saw an appallingly juvenile comedy on TV the other night called 'Famalan' where Black people were continuously using White stereotypes.

That is on my TV in a predominantly and traditionally White country.

Got a problem with that?

Never heard of it but see it’s on the BBC. Did you watch it just to get offended?

‘Traditionally white’. Skin colour really doesn’t matter mate, we’re all human beings. We’ll all never agree anyway; I like a mixing pot of cultures, you lot don’t. I honestly find difference in people fascinating and want to learn and understand, not stick up a guard to it and be fearful of it.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 31 May 19 7.29pm

Originally posted by DanH

Never heard of it but see it’s on the BBC. Did you watch it just to get offended?

‘Traditionally white’. Skin colour really doesn’t matter mate, we’re all human beings. We’ll all never agree anyway; I like a mixing pot of cultures, you lot don’t. I honestly find difference in people fascinating and want to learn and understand, not stick up a guard to it and be fearful of it.

No. I'm not like you.

I was offended by how crap it was but I'm already used to the double standards applied to Black people.

Only White people can be racist apparently.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 31 May 19 8.59pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That you are on the right of the liberal democrats.

The Tories aren't just about fiscal conservatism, one nation or not.

Of course they aren't but one nation Tories have a more liberal approach to social issues than those on the hard right wing. That's where I stand. That I share some values with the Lib Dems, and indeed those on the right of the Labour party, is totally in line with standing on the middle ground.

My big hope is that, if the Tory party continues to drift to the hard right and Labour to the hard left that the splits will become permanent and a strong middle ground party will coalesce. It's what will provide the nucleus and the backing that remains the big unknown.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 31 May 19 9.14pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Wuuuuu?

So I can say I f***ing hate Albanian people and its not being racist?

You can be racist towards people from a certain country, last time I checked.

Having an issue with racism is not being PC, its being a decent human being.

Judging people because of what is on their passport is bonkers.

In my experience many of these won't have entered with passports (now ducking down behind the sofa waiting for the flax)

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 31 May 19 9.16pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Yeh true, I think they are a bit interchangeable though these days, but the classic meanings:

Xenophobia:

Dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.

Racism:

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Don't think ME said he disliked them and showed no prejudice towards them did he?

 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 31 May 19 9.56pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

In my experience many of these won't have entered with passports (now ducking down behind the sofa waiting for the flax)

Here you go.

[Link]

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle Flag USA 31 May 19 9.59pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Don't think ME said he disliked them and showed no prejudice towards them did he?

Think your spidey sense is a bit off again here, Pete.

You don’t think he showed no prejudice, that would be a double negative.

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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