As I explained in another thread that isn't universally true. If your country is poor and has mass unemployment then it's the working class who benefit. Industries arrive. Globalisation is flattening out opportunity. It's impact has to be managed to ensure smooth transitions and avoid social disruptions.

It might be a challenge but as it simply cannot just be reversed we have no choice other than to try to go with the flow and find smart ways to benefit.

I read lots of complaints and desires to turn the clocks back decades but no practical, legal, suggestions on how to handle things better. Just turning off immigration won't do much other than hurt us. Those who believe there is a pool of locally born labour, trained, willing and ready to step into the breech are living in a dream land.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

No need for sterilisation anyway. You're dealing with masses of people, literally billions, unable to work out that boiling water sterilises it. Stop aid and stop migration and they'd soon die out.

Back to Brexit Corbyn today hinted in PMQ's he has shifted position and now wants a second referendum.

I think this is good news as it puts daylight between the parties, not good news if you are a Brexit Labour supporter of course.

At least now the public have a clear choice who to support. This matters because I think we will have a GE in the next few months.

One more point

I guess that splits the remain vote between labour, green and the libtards which is great news.

Still need to bring down the tories to be sure of a Brexit party win. Hunt it is then!

Edited by W12 (03 Jul 2019 9.45pm)

Because England is only England because it has a majority of English people in it.....the clue is in the name.

I wish to live in a country that is for the English and has a majority of English in it.....I think every country has a right to that hegemonic self defining reality....and indeed it's only in Europe where this is even questioned.

If you continue with an immigration policy that doesn't reflect the requirement to maintain that country's internal hegemony then ultimately you create social and cultural upheaval, segregation by house price and other means.....ultimately the higher the multi-cultural mix the higher the malcontent.

So I'm for the immigration policies of countries such as Japan or Israel, where citizenship for foreigners is difficult and rules keep them as secondary.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jul 2019 10.42am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Uh oh.

Hmmmm. North Korea?

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

You should read your links Maine.

There is nothing inconsistent with what Japan is doing.

They are increasing the numbers of 'foreign workers' but they aren't allowing them a path to citizenship.....once the permit ends....bye bye foreigner.

The 'foreign worker' idea is thousands of years old and I have no issues with it....as long as it is implemented properly....They can do that in Japan because a non Japanese person is far easier to spot.

Anyway hence Japan stays Japanese and keeps its culture and inherent Japanese nature.

As for Israel.....Duh Maine....Israel is composed of mostly European Jews who emigrated there last century.

They aren't going to lose their Jewishness by allowing more Jews to emigrate there are they.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jul 2019 11.58am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The latest polls put Corbyn at his lowest rating ever.

Interesting comment from the pollster as to why. He felt that Labour's position on Brexit which is to try and keep the middle ground between Brexiteers and Remainers is killing them.

He says that positions over Brexit have hardened so the vast majority of voters now either back Brexit or Remain, there is no middle ground.

Or as he put Labour is trying to fish in a very small pond. Corbyn is now hinting he is shifting his position but the reality is that at some point Labour will have to go Remain and risk losing Brexit voters because at the moment they are losing both Remain and Brexit voters who are migrating to parties with clear policies.

This is one area where holding the middle ground doesn't work. Pick a side Labour, pick a side.

One more point

Well I'm an agnostic atheist. However the heritage of this country is Christian and sure it would count in someone's favour.

However, it's a number's game. I don't believe in closing off immigration I believe in a country not losing its identity....and so it must have at least a 3 to 1 numeric advantage I'd say....pretty much what Israel is keeping in place....complete with business and land ownership being kept in the country or to nationals.

I think they are great examples of what I mean.

It's not about 'picking an issue' it's about protecting the identity of a country.

As Japan are doing, as Israel are doing.....In fact, as most countries outside of western Europe are doing.

It's only the west who have middle class and elites who appear to think otherwise.....certain elites anyway.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jul 2019 1.27pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yep, no one respects the two faced......Most of their grass roots are remain so they should go fully remain and start being honest.

Either that or fill your shadow bench with Labour leavers....if you can find enough.

Stop flapping about and pick a side.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)