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Hrolf The Ganger 19 May 17 8.24pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman But that is not businesses charging what they want/what they think customers will pay (what you said). That is determining price by profit margin, which is what you said they don't do these days. No they don't. Businesses generally try to squeeze the competition by price. Undercutting must be limited by cost but price setting can be more arbitrary and based on what people will pay.People don't necessarily have the time or inclination to find the cheapest price.

Hrolf The Ganger

19 May 17 8.24pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

But that is not businesses charging what they want/what they think customers will pay (what you said). That is determining price by profit margin, which is what you said they don't do these days.

No they don't. Businesses generally try to squeeze the competition by price.

Undercutting must be limited by cost but price setting can be more arbitrary and based on what people will pay.People don't necessarily have the time or inclination to find the cheapest price.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 May 17 8.52pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Undercutting must be limited by cost but price setting can be more arbitrary and based on what people will pay.People don't necessarily have the time or inclination to find the cheapest price. Or they see you coming? COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 19 May 17 8.52pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Undercutting must be limited by cost but price setting can be more arbitrary and based on what people will pay.People don't necessarily have the time or inclination to find the cheapest price.

Or they see you coming?

COYP

legaleagle 19 May 17 9.05pm
Just watched the UKIP party political broadcast,where they say they stand up for "normal" people.What could they mean by "normal"? Anyway,at the end,Mr Nuttall outlines the 5 main planks of UKIP policy. One is to "protect British culture". I wonder, does the panel think the street corner curry house is an integral part of British culture? If not,why not?

legaleagle

19 May 17 9.05pm

Just watched the UKIP party political broadcast,where they say they stand up for "normal" people.What could they mean by "normal"?

Anyway,at the end,Mr Nuttall outlines the 5 main planks of UKIP policy. One is to "protect British culture".

I wonder, does the panel think the street corner curry house is an integral part of British culture?

If not,why not?

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 19 May 17 9.09pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Undercutting must be limited by cost but price setting can be more arbitrary and based on what people will pay.People don't necessarily have the time or inclination to find the cheapest price. People are often wary of cheapest price and are inclined to go for mid price. Particularly with one off purchases the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 19 May 17 9.09pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Undercutting must be limited by cost but price setting can be more arbitrary and based on what people will pay.People don't necessarily have the time or inclination to find the cheapest price.

People are often wary of cheapest price and are inclined to go for mid price. Particularly with one off purchases

the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 19 May 17 9.13pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Just watched the UKIP party political broadcast,where they say they stand up for "normal" people.What could they mean by "normal"? Anyway,at the end,Mr Nuttall outlines the 5 main planks of UKIP policy. One is to "protect British culture". I wonder, does the panel think the street corner curry house is an integral part of British culture? If not,why not? Funnily enough it was the first thing I thought. Nuttall is, as a scouser would say, a blert. the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 19 May 17 9.13pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Just watched the UKIP party political broadcast,where they say they stand up for "normal" people.What could they mean by "normal"?

Anyway,at the end,Mr Nuttall outlines the 5 main planks of UKIP policy. One is to "protect British culture".

I wonder, does the panel think the street corner curry house is an integral part of British culture?

If not,why not?

Funnily enough it was the first thing I thought. Nuttall is, as a scouser would say, a blert.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 May 17 9.26pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Just watched the UKIP party political broadcast,where they say they stand up for "normal" people.What could they mean by "normal"? Anyway,at the end,Mr Nuttall outlines the 5 main planks of UKIP policy. One is to "protect British culture". I wonder, does the panel think the street corner curry house is an integral part of British culture? If not,why not? I voted UKIP and Brexit but the thought wouldn't enter my mind now. However, British culture would mean things like the right and freedom to celebrate and name certain religious times and holidays as they always have been, in public and schools. British parents really start to plan flight from the area when they're in the minority, and the majority comes from another century. Even Curry houses aren't very 'Indian', or Asian. It's now more fine dining or at least neutral colours and black, with table linen, China and glasses pre-laid. P.S - had an appliance delivered today by 2 east Europeans. They were tipped. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 19 May 17 9.26pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Just watched the UKIP party political broadcast,where they say they stand up for "normal" people.What could they mean by "normal"?

Anyway,at the end,Mr Nuttall outlines the 5 main planks of UKIP policy. One is to "protect British culture".

I wonder, does the panel think the street corner curry house is an integral part of British culture?

If not,why not?

I voted UKIP and Brexit but the thought wouldn't enter my mind now.

However, British culture would mean things like the right and freedom to celebrate and name certain religious times and holidays as they always have been, in public and schools. British parents really start to plan flight from the area when they're in the minority, and the majority comes from another century.

Even Curry houses aren't very 'Indian', or Asian. It's now more fine dining or at least neutral colours and black, with table linen, China and glasses pre-laid.

P.S - had an appliance delivered today by 2 east Europeans. They were tipped.

COYP

legaleagle 19 May 17 9.34pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman However, British culture would mean things like the right and freedom to celebrate and name certain religious times and holidays as they always have been, in public and schools. British parents really start to plan flight from the area when they're in the minority, and the majority comes from another century. Even Curry houses aren't very 'Indian', or Asian. It's now more fine dining or at least neutral colours and black, with table linen, China and glasses pre-laid. Exactly my point..our local curry houses are an integral part of British culture..not something "alien" or "foreign" in any way..but as familiar and reassuring as the fish and chip shop.. I do know what you mean by feeling oppressed when the majority come from another century,though...Its how I feel on HOL surrounded by so many rabid Brexiteers!

legaleagle

19 May 17 9.34pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Even Curry houses aren't very 'Indian', or Asian. It's now more fine dining or at least neutral colours and black, with table linen, China and glasses pre-laid.

Exactly my point..our local curry houses are an integral part of British culture..not something "alien" or "foreign" in any way..but as familiar and reassuring as the fish and chip shop..

I do know what you mean by feeling oppressed when the majority come from another century,though...Its how I feel on HOL surrounded by so many rabid Brexiteers!

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 May 17 9.45pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Exactly my point..our local curry houses are an integral part of British culture..not something "alien" or "foreign" in any way..but as familiar and reassuring as the fish and chip shop.. I do know what you mean by feeling oppressed when the majority come from another century,though...Its how I feel on HOL surrounded by so many rabid Brexiteers!

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 19 May 17 9.45pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Exactly my point..our local curry houses are an integral part of British culture..not something "alien" or "foreign" in any way..but as familiar and reassuring as the fish and chip shop..

I do know what you mean by feeling oppressed when the majority come from another century,though...Its how I feel on HOL surrounded by so many rabid Brexiteers!

Hrolf The Ganger 19 May 17 9.58pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Exactly my point..our local curry houses are an integral part of British culture..not something "alien" or "foreign" in any way..but as familiar and reassuring as the fish and chip shop.. I do know what you mean by feeling oppressed when the majority come from another century,though...Its how I feel on HOL surrounded by so many rabid Brexiteers! So your argument for mass immigration is curry houses? Stop please.

Hrolf The Ganger

19 May 17 9.58pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Exactly my point..our local curry houses are an integral part of British culture..not something "alien" or "foreign" in any way..but as familiar and reassuring as the fish and chip shop..

I do know what you mean by feeling oppressed when the majority come from another century,though...Its how I feel on HOL surrounded by so many rabid Brexiteers!

So your argument for mass immigration is curry houses?

Stop please.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 May 17 10.01pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Exactly my point..our local curry houses are an integral part of British culture..not something "alien" or "foreign" in any way..but as familiar and reassuring as the fish and chip shop.. I do know what you mean by feeling oppressed when the majority come from another century,though...Its how I feel on HOL surrounded by so many rabid Brexiteers! You could always move to Tower Hamlets. Or SW England Lib Dem constituencies, only the voters are floating over to Tory this time. Even the once remainers are now re-leavers. A surprise to Farron. What now? Threaten to move because 'We're European yes we are' placards. Jeez. Go on then. Edited by Rudi Hedman (19 May 2017 10.16pm) COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 19 May 17 10.01pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Exactly my point..our local curry houses are an integral part of British culture..not something "alien" or "foreign" in any way..but as familiar and reassuring as the fish and chip shop..

I do know what you mean by feeling oppressed when the majority come from another century,though...Its how I feel on HOL surrounded by so many rabid Brexiteers!

You could always move to Tower Hamlets. Or SW England Lib Dem constituencies, only the voters are floating over to Tory this time.

Even the once remainers are now re-leavers. A surprise to Farron. What now? Threaten to move because 'We're European yes we are' placards. Jeez. Go on then.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (19 May 2017 10.16pm)

COYP

Stirlingsays 19 May 17 10.11pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Exactly my point..our local curry houses are an integral part of British culture..not something "alien" or "foreign" in any way..but as familiar and reassuring as the fish and chip shop.. I do know what you mean by feeling oppressed when the majority come from another century,though...Its how I feel on HOL surrounded by so many rabid Brexiteers! Food is food. If the people making and serving the food are British then that's fine. If they are foreign then that's fine, as long as they are legally here. What it is to be 'British' now has become so mangled and meaningless as to mean anything you like. It describes a legal situation rather than allegiance. Personally if someone with Asian heritage tells me they are English/Scottish/Irish then I know they are mentally integrated with the country they live in. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 May 2017 10.14pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 May 17 10.11pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Exactly my point..our local curry houses are an integral part of British culture..not something "alien" or "foreign" in any way..but as familiar and reassuring as the fish and chip shop..

I do know what you mean by feeling oppressed when the majority come from another century,though...Its how I feel on HOL surrounded by so many rabid Brexiteers!

Food is food.

If the people making and serving the food are British then that's fine. If they are foreign then that's fine, as long as they are legally here.

What it is to be 'British' now has become so mangled and meaningless as to mean anything you like. It describes a legal situation rather than allegiance. Personally if someone with Asian heritage tells me they are English/Scottish/Irish then I know they are mentally integrated with the country they live in.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 May 2017 10.14pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 May 17 10.25pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Food is food. If the people making and serving the food are British then that's fine. If they are foreign then that's fine, as long as they are legally here. What it is to be 'British' now has become so mangled and meaningless as to mean anything you like. It describes a legal situation rather than allegiance. Personally if someone with Asian heritage tells me they are English/Scottish/Irish then I know they are mentally integrated with the country they live in. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 May 2017 10.14pm) I agree with that, only I don't hear any Asians say 'I'm English', because I think people say the country their parents are from, perhaps and hopefully followed by 'British.' It's a bit like America really. Italian-American. Irish-Anerican. You won't hear many Greeks in Britain saying they're English either, and their habits are very close to our's. I would say culture only we're in more of a hurry to distance ourselves from annoying family and place elderly relatives in care if you get my point. Anyway, Mrs May can afford annoying a few. She'll still win nearly all her solid areas and pick up a good few labour seats. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 19 May 17 10.25pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Food is food.

If the people making and serving the food are British then that's fine. If they are foreign then that's fine, as long as they are legally here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 May 2017 10.14pm)

I agree with that, only I don't hear any Asians say 'I'm English', because I think people say the country their parents are from, perhaps and hopefully followed by 'British.'

It's a bit like America really. Italian-American. Irish-Anerican.

You won't hear many Greeks in Britain saying they're English either, and their habits are very close to our's. I would say culture only we're in more of a hurry to distance ourselves from annoying family and place elderly relatives in care if you get my point.

Anyway, Mrs May can afford annoying a few. She'll still win nearly all her solid areas and pick up a good few labour seats.

COYP

Stirlingsays 19 May 17 10.33pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman I agree with that, only I don't hear any Asians say 'I'm English', because I think people say the country their parents are from, perhaps and hopefully followed by 'British.' It's a bit like America really. Italian-American. Irish-Anerican. You won't hear many Greeks in Britain saying they're English either, and their habits are very close to our's. I would say culture only we're in more of a hurry to distance ourselves from annoying family and place elderly relatives in care if you get my point. Anyway, Mrs May can afford annoying a few. She'll still win nearly all her solid areas and pick up a good few labour seats. I tend to agree. The reference to Greek culture is very poignant as it's pan-european in influence and any student of history knows that parts of its ancient systems are deeply ingrained within anglo saxon culture itself. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

19 May 17 10.33pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I agree with that, only I don't hear any Asians say 'I'm English', because I think people say the country their parents are from, perhaps and hopefully followed by 'British.'

It's a bit like America really. Italian-American. Irish-Anerican.

Anyway, Mrs May can afford annoying a few. She'll still win nearly all her solid areas and pick up a good few labour seats.

I tend to agree.

The reference to Greek culture is very poignant as it's pan-european in influence and any student of history knows that parts of its ancient systems are deeply ingrained within anglo saxon culture itself.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 May 17 10.42pm
Actually I meant they'll say 'British' followed by their parents origin. 'British Asian' for example. Probably because it sounds right, whereas 'American Italian' or 'American Irish' wouldn't. Or is there a reason for the different syntax or syntax back then for the US immigration. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 19 May 17 10.42pm

Actually I meant they'll say 'British' followed by their parents origin.

'British Asian' for example.

Probably because it sounds right, whereas 'American Italian' or 'American Irish' wouldn't. Or is there a reason for the different syntax or syntax back then for the US immigration.

COYP

hedgehog50 Croydon 19 May 17 10.42pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Exactly my point..our local curry houses are an integral part of British culture..not something "alien" or "foreign" in any way..but as familiar and reassuring as the fish and chip shop.. I do know what you mean by feeling oppressed when the majority come from another century,though...Its how I feel on HOL surrounded by so many rabid Brexiteers! Curry 'integral part of British culture'? My arse literally - cut out the middle-man and throw it straight down the toilet. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 19 May 17 10.42pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

Exactly my point..our local curry houses are an integral part of British culture..not something "alien" or "foreign" in any way..but as familiar and reassuring as the fish and chip shop..

I do know what you mean by feeling oppressed when the majority come from another century,though...Its how I feel on HOL surrounded by so many rabid Brexiteers!

Curry 'integral part of British culture'? My arse literally - cut out the middle-man and throw it straight down the toilet.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

legaleagle 19 May 17 10.46pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Food is food. If the people making and serving the food are British then that's fine. If they are foreign then that's fine, as long as they are legally here. What it is to be 'British' now has become so mangled and meaningless as to mean anything you like. It describes a legal situation rather than allegiance. Personally if someone with Asian heritage tells me they are English/Scottish/Irish then I know they are mentally integrated with the country they live in. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 May 2017 10.14pm) I can't agree with a thesis that says if a person thinks of themselves as a Brit primarily as opposed to English(though say English,Scottish or Welsh also),there's something "mangled or meaningless" about that.Its actually perfectly in keeping with tradition. Interesting most of our recent historical (past 200 years)symbols of "allegiance" are British,not English etc..Rule Britannia was so named for a reason,the Black Watch were part of the essence of the British armed forces...The Royal Navy was a lot more than the English navy....The king was His Britannic Majesty for a reason... Being British is very distinct from say being French or Italian or American...not meaningless But,we are talking culture here,Stirling,which is something different.What would you say are the essential characteristics of English culture and how would you say those characteristics differ from British culture?..Is being partial to a curry, pint of ale and a cup of tea,English,Scottish,Welsh,or British? Edited by legaleagle (19 May 2017 10.56pm)

legaleagle

19 May 17 10.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Food is food.

If the people making and serving the food are British then that's fine. If they are foreign then that's fine, as long as they are legally here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 May 2017 10.14pm)

I can't agree with a thesis that says if a person thinks of themselves as a Brit primarily as opposed to English(though say English,Scottish or Welsh also),there's something "mangled or meaningless" about that.Its actually perfectly in keeping with tradition.

Interesting most of our recent historical (past 200 years)symbols of "allegiance" are British,not English etc..Rule Britannia was so named for a reason,the Black Watch were part of the essence of the British armed forces...The Royal Navy was a lot more than the English navy....The king was His Britannic Majesty for a reason...

Being British is very distinct from say being French or Italian or American...not meaningless

But,we are talking culture here,Stirling,which is something different.What would you say are the essential characteristics of English culture and how would you say those characteristics differ from British culture?..Is being partial to a curry, pint of ale and a cup of tea,English,Scottish,Welsh,or British?

Edited by legaleagle (19 May 2017 10.56pm)

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 19 May 17 10.48pm
Originally posted by legaleagle I can't agree with a thesis that says if a person thinks of themselves as a Brit primarily (though say English,Scottish or Welsh also),there's something dodgy about that.Its actually perfectly in keeping with tradition. Interesting most of our recent historical (past 200 years)symbols of "allegiance" are British,not English..Rule Britannia was so named for a reason,the Black Watch were part of the essence of the British armed forces...The Royal Navy was a lot more than the English navy....The king was His Britannic Majesty for a reason But,we are talking culture here,Stirling,which is something different.What would you say are the essential characteristics of English culture and how would you say those characteristics differ from British culture?..Is being partial to a pint of ale and a cup of tea,English,Scottish,Welsh,or British? Edited by legaleagle (19 May 2017 10.48pm) I think you misread Sterlings post? Or I did the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 19 May 17 10.48pm

Originally posted by legaleagle

I can't agree with a thesis that says if a person thinks of themselves as a Brit primarily (though say English,Scottish or Welsh also),there's something dodgy about that.Its actually perfectly in keeping with tradition.

Interesting most of our recent historical (past 200 years)symbols of "allegiance" are British,not English..Rule Britannia was so named for a reason,the Black Watch were part of the essence of the British armed forces...The Royal Navy was a lot more than the English navy....The king was His Britannic Majesty for a reason

But,we are talking culture here,Stirling,which is something different.What would you say are the essential characteristics of English culture and how would you say those characteristics differ from British culture?..Is being partial to a pint of ale and a cup of tea,English,Scottish,Welsh,or British?

Edited by legaleagle (19 May 2017 10.48pm)

I think you misread Sterlings post? Or I did

the dignified don't even enter in the game

legaleagle 19 May 17 10.52pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch I think you misread Sterlings post? Or I did Have amended my last post to (hopefully) make clearer Edited by legaleagle (19 May 2017 10.53pm)

legaleagle

19 May 17 10.52pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

I think you misread Sterlings post? Or I did

Have amended my last post to (hopefully) make clearer

Edited by legaleagle (19 May 2017 10.53pm)

CPFC1965 Warrington 19 May 17 10.55pm
Can't be bothered reading 192 pages of vitriolic ranting. Prior to last night I was going to vote Tory. May didn't show up, Corbyn didn't show up and thathe leeves Tim Farron and the Lib Dems. Articulate and sensible rational policies.We don't need another dictator or a politician who can preach to the converted for a rapturous applause. Sadly this will be a wasted vote but my conscience is clear.

CPFC1965

Warrington 19 May 17 10.55pm

Can't be bothered reading 192 pages of vitriolic ranting. Prior to last night I was going to vote Tory. May didn't show up, Corbyn didn't show up and thathe leeves Tim Farron and the Lib Dems. Articulate and sensible rational policies.We don't need another dictator or a politician who can preach to the converted for a rapturous applause. Sadly this will be a wasted vote but my conscience is clear.

legaleagle 19 May 17 10.59pm
What is your view of Farron the Evangelical's views re gays?Are they "sensible" and "rational"?

legaleagle

19 May 17 10.59pm

What is your view of Farron the Evangelical's views re gays?Are they "sensible" and "rational"?

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