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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
And what's far right "voting for brexit" The only mass violence I'm seeing is from the left AKA ice cream woman and her mob. Not mass violence from the right. What does the article have to do with Brexit?
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
What does the article have to do with Brexit? Because anyone who voted brexit automatically branded right wing. The point I'm saying is were is this right wing violence? I've seen plenty left wing violence against brexit but the BBC fail to mention that.
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Because anyone who voted brexit automatically branded right wing. The point I'm saying is were is this right wing violence? I've seen plenty left wing violence against brexit but the BBC fail to mention that. Well it’s not incorrect to say the majority of Brexiteers are right wing - that’s not the same as far right though. The whole article is about a very specific incident of right wing violence, presumably because they have an interview with the Austrian chap and are building a story around it. What incidents of left wing violence against Brexit are you referring to?
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It seems to me that by promoting lifestyles that would increase the number of same sex relationships and hence reduce reproduction rates is doing exactly that...You are indeed supporting the 'configuring of society'....but just along the lines that you want. I as said, I think you have an internal inconsistency between your views of the sexual and that of the racial. To take your wider point....I have a certain acceptance of the general principle.....However, like I've stated people following your principles are walking into demographic replacement. Similar to what the Dalai Lama said, England is for the English.....A country like Japan, China and many others outside Europe protect their biological heritage and I ask for nothing more.....I view that as highly important as people with your views enable its destruction.
Recognision of a type of person and relationship is not 'promotion of a lifestyle'. Neither a sexual preference nor a race is in and of itself a 'lifestyle'. Sure if we're going to point to a worse case scenario of behaviour, for the former example there are those engaging in gangs, and for the latter unprotected sex. Those are ill advised lifestyles. In neither case, in an educational environment are those lifestyles promoted. In fact education endeavours to do the very opposite. 'Promotion of' policies like section 28 caused much harm than good. School groups supporting gay youth shut down in their droves as did support in general as there was concern about breaking the law. My own brother suffered mercilessly at the hands of vicious bullies during this time. So I speak up at cruel and outmoded policies, slurs and attitudes as it might help to put that take out there. A take that is not a controversial stance in wider society. So the basic act of discussing different types of relationship isn't 'promotion'. It's a recognision of real life. By your logic though, as you believe that discussing these relationships 'configures society' to be a place where there are somehow more gay people, you will also be of the mind that where relationships are depicted between members of different races, that can also promote and encourage those kind of relationships. That is clearly something that both has been and can easily be heavily influenced by societal views. It requires zero shift in sexuality. Just the a-ok by social. In decades past, it would have been shocking, due to prejudice of the times, for someone to have kids with someone of another race, whereas now it's rightly a complete irrelevance to most people. So, considering the frequent passion and value you attribute to the white racial identity, where's your scathing Viktor Orbán style take on racial mixing within education and society being 'promoted'? There is certainly far more danger to your specific world view from this than other low hanging fruit. It just doesn't play as well for you to vocalise it. It's easier to demean demographics where there is a free pass.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Well it’s not incorrect to say the majority of Brexiteers are right wing - that’s not the same as far right though. The whole article is about a very specific incident of right wing violence, presumably because they have an interview with the Austrian chap and are building a story around it. What incidents of left wing violence against Brexit are you referring to?
Incidents of lefty violence against Brexit....Off the top of my noggin we had Farage getting milkshaked....I remember Sargon was attacked a couple of times in the street campaigning for Ukip.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Incidents of lefty violence against Brexit....Off the top of my noggin we had Farage getting milkshaked....I remember Sargon was attacked a couple of times in the street campaigning for Ukip. All of which were reported in the BBC - that’s what I was getting at.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
All of which were reported in the BBC - that’s what I was getting at.
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Originally posted by dollardays
This I will add, since I missed your message where you said you wanted me to continue to argue this point. Recognision of a type of person and relationship is not 'promotion of a lifestyle'. Neither a sexual preference nor a race is in and of itself a 'lifestyle'. Sure if we're going to point to a worse case scenario of behaviour, for the former example there are those engaging in gangs, and for the latter unprotected sex. Those are ill advised lifestyles. In neither case, in an educational environment are those lifestyles promoted. In fact education endeavours to do the very opposite. 'Promotion of' policies like section 28 caused much harm than good. School groups supporting gay youth shut down in their droves as did support in general as there was concern about breaking the law. My own brother suffered mercilessly at the hands of vicious bullies during this time. So I speak up at cruel and outmoded policies, slurs and attitudes as it might help to put that take out there. A take that is not a controversial stance in wider society. So the basic act of discussing different types of relationship isn't 'promotion'. It's a recognision of real life. By your logic though, as you believe that discussing these relationships 'configures society' to be a place where there are somehow more gay people, you will also be of the mind that where relationships are depicted between members of different races, that can also promote and encourage those kind of relationships. That is clearly something that both has been and can easily be heavily influenced by societal views. It requires zero shift in sexuality. Just the a-ok by social. In decades past, it would have been shocking, due to prejudice of the times, for someone to have kids with someone of another race, whereas now it's rightly a complete irrelevance to most people. So, considering the frequent passion and value you attribute to the white racial identity, where's your scathing Viktor Orbán style take on racial mixing within education and society being 'promoted'? There is certainly far more danger to your specific world view from this than other low hanging fruit. It just doesn't play as well for you to vocalise it. It's easier to demean demographics where there is a free pass.
It's a good and well written post that deserves some thought in the reply. We differ though I do have some appreciation for your points....Let me address your post tomorrow as I'm off out tonight.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's a good and well written post that deserves some thought in the reply. We differ though I do have some appreciation for your points....Let me address your post tomorrow as I'm off out tonight. Stirling and Wisbech having a date night!
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's a good and well written post that deserves some thought in the reply. We differ though I do have some appreciation for your points....Let me address your post tomorrow as I'm off out tonight. Sounds good to me. Have a fun night.
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Stirling and Wisbech having a date night! Nov 5th come early.
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And on a school night.
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Stirling and Wisbech having a date night! Their hammer and tongs attempts to disguise their love affair is fooling no-one.
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Originally posted by dollardays
Sounds good to me. Have a fun night. These Lutwaffe reunions can be fun.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
These Lutwaffe reunions can be fun. But which Focker will have the most fun?
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Well it’s not incorrect to say the majority of Brexiteers are right wing - that’s not the same as far right though. The whole article is about a very specific incident of right wing violence, presumably because they have an interview with the Austrian chap and are building a story around it. What incidents of left wing violence against Brexit are you referring to? This mob
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Stirling and Wisbech having a date night! If I were batting for the other side....something tells me I could do better.
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Originally posted by dollardays
Sounds good to me. Have a fun night. Twas, cheers.
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Originally posted by dynamicdick
Dominic Grieve should be de-selected for this action and previous persistent attempts to block Brexit. This should also apply to any other MP who has sought this route including dear Mr Bercow. To all these idiots contribute to the Brexit process but do not dare block. Democracy has to be followed. Taking no deal off will again weaken our hand and play into the EU’s. Roll on Boris! Totally agree, bear in mind his constituency voted to leave
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Originally posted by cryrst
Nov 5th come early. Well, he's known for annoying Catholics.
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