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|  Stirlingsays  10 Dec 18 6.51pm |      | 
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| Originally posted by steve1984 
 What was it that George Orwell said about nationalists again? Oh yes I remember "they have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts." And you a science teacher. Can't you get struck off for that sort of thing? 
 
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|    Hrolf The Ganger  10 Dec 18 6.53pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Tawny 
 You appear to view non white British people as less British than yourself if they do not share your political beliefs. Still here? 
 
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|  steeleye20  Croydon 10 Dec 18 6.55pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Stirlingsays 
 
 Suddenly if you mention anglo saxons or advocating for anglo saxons you're a racist......Some terrible person who wants to harm Raheem Sterling or something like that. Indeed the 'The Gangers' have made an immense contribution to our culture, we never had their brothel cleaning skills before...…. 
 
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|    Hrolf The Ganger  10 Dec 18 7.03pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by steve1984 
 I'm not here to find people who like me. I'm here to laugh at you. Knock yourself out. I just feel sorry for you. I have a life and I don't take myself too seriously. It's funny that I have such a big effect on you though.  You must take all this very seriously comrade. I bet you blubbed and blubbed. 
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| Tawny  Croydon 10 Dec 18 7.05pm | |
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| Originally posted by Stirlingsays 
 
 I'll intervene into any conversation I like thank you very much. As I know little of you what you think of it matters little to me. As for the validity of a person's view and their race.....well that's correct on an ethical level. However that wasn't what was being intimated. Hrolf was implying about someone's politics being related to allegiance and that unfortunately in many cases (not all by any means) is statistically correlated....It's not a reality I like but you can predict how someone will vote and what they will vote for based upon these matters. This is statistically a fact and I often find the left like to obfuscate that with claims of racism. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2018 6.36pm) As I said pepople are entitled to a view regardless of their race. If he or you want to be suspicious of a black or mixed race politicians view due to their race you can do so but it doesn't go anywhere does it. It's little different from pointing to a KIPPER and saying they're probably racist. It just further pushes people apart. You refer here about how this is their country when refering to your own. The Anglo Saxon matra. I can see that you also closely link genetics and a long history in the country as being somehow the pinaccle of being British. Add to the mix comments about violence and certain racial groups due to genetics. To be frank you're teetering on the brink of the view that people are less British or less entitled to claim ownership of the nationality if they are not white. 
 
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| Tawny  Croydon 10 Dec 18 7.05pm | |
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| Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger 
 Answering yourself? You are only hurting yourself you know. Find a place where people like you. You tried the BBS and HOL and failed but there are other places. The Joseph Stalin appreciation society perhaps? If I ever overtake your lofty ban total I will listen to you. 
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| Tawny  Croydon 10 Dec 18 7.08pm | |
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| Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger 
 Still here? 
 There's very little difference between saying this and suggesting that many more UKIP voters than the general population hold racist views. That's to say, if you're going to group up and scrutinise peoples motivatations for voting for something where exactly does it lead and what can you do with it? If a non white politician supports Brexit do they get handed an extra lollypop? People believe what they believe and if you obsess over their race or are doing a colour count up at every turn you're unlikely to ever end up on the same page as them. Consequently you feed the very thing you appear to take issue with. 
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|    Hrolf The Ganger  10 Dec 18 7.13pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by steeleye20 
 Indeed the 'The Gangers' have made an immense contribution to our culture, we never had their brothel cleaning skills before...…. 
 Actually, Ganger means walker. It is not a surname but more a nickname.  
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|  Stirlingsays  10 Dec 18 7.16pm |      | 
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| Originally posted by Tawny 
 As I said pepople are entitled to a view regardless of their race. If he or you want to be suspicious of a black or mixed race politicians view due to their race you can do so but it doesn't go anywhere does it. It's little different from pointing to a KIPPER and saying they're probably racist. It just further pushes people apart. I'm hardly someone who would deny someone a view, whatever their race. I have my political allegiances and I'm quite correct about the statistics upon how minorities line up on that....there's no suspicion about it. As for how that relates to an individual that's another matter. When it comes to connecting the charge of 'racism' to Ukippers.....sorry if you find me rather more than a bit cynical. The whole area of 'racism' has been turned into a meme at this point. The left treat what they regard as racists like the Nazis regarded Jews in the thirties.....they just make up stuff and invent monsters so that they can justify their commentary. It's quite funny really....they become what they think they oppose. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Dec 2018 7.39pm) 
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|    Hrolf The Ganger  10 Dec 18 7.18pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Tawny 
 There's very little difference between saying this and suggesting that many more UKIP voters than the general population hold racist views. That's to say, if you're going to group up and scrutinise peoples motivatations for voting for something where exactly does it lead and what can you do with it? If a non white politician supports Brexit do they get handed an extra lollypop? People believe what they believe and if you obsess over their race or are doing a colour count up at every turn you're unlikely to ever end up on the same page as them. Consequently you feed the very thing you appear to take issue with. It is nothing like saying that and only a complete idiot would think so. I think you will find that the who people obsess about race are minorities. And of course, snowflake liberals with White guilt syndrome. 
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|    Hrolf The Ganger  10 Dec 18 7.20pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Tawny 
 If I ever overtake your lofty ban total I will listen to you. Good luck with that. 
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|  steeleye20  Croydon 10 Dec 18 7.21pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger 
 Actually, Ganger means walker. It is not a surname but more a nickname.  So your EU credentials are pretty good. 
 
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