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Invalid user 2019 Flag 18 Jul 19 10.09pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Personally I'll be very surprised if there isn't an early election.

And I don't get surprised very often, as the hooker said to John Holmes.

Hmm, yes I've just now looked and odds of that are about even money, so that explains the other Brexit related odds. A scary situation as these elections can be unpredictable, but at least it's another shot at getting some kind of unassailable majority instead of this endless deadlock sh!te. Boris vs Corbyn is at least a contest somewhat reflective of the parties they represent, whereas May vs Corbyn wasn't.


 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 18 Jul 19 10.37pm

Brexit: MPs back bid to block Parliament suspension - [Link]

I wonder if this will have any practical impact on anything. Too early to say I suppose.

 

dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 19 Jul 19 3.36pm

Saw the tail end of the Newsnight interview with Dominic Grief last night. He said that the problems that we are in at the moment are because of the Article 50 being triggered too early. He may actually have a point here but the Government having started it and him being a Conservative MP surely he should have done everything possible, given his considerable experience (ex Attorney General and QC) to assist in getting the best negotiated deal in line with the democratic vote. Instead he has seemingly used this experience to run a separate agenda intent on blocking Brexit ("BB" and as I can see be the leader of it.

If anyone else saw the interview was he asked what he has done to help the agreement get done, if so what was his answer?

I doubt given that it was a BBC (Brexit Blocking Corporation) programme he would have been asked this.

Also, when he was asked would he vote for the Conservative party in a General Election he said it "depended what the manifesto said" ....there's loyalty for you and a defector about to spring off the blocks!

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Jul 19 3.50pm

Originally posted by dollardays

Hmm, yes I've just now looked and odds of that are about even money, so that explains the other Brexit related odds. A scary situation as these elections can be unpredictable, but at least it's another shot at getting some kind of unassailable majority instead of this endless deadlock sh!te. Boris vs Corbyn is at least a contest somewhat reflective of the parties they represent, whereas May vs Corbyn wasn't.

Evens is a 50% chance. Some people make errors in what they think is the percentage chance is with odds on a result or likelihood.,

 


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Invalid user 2019 Flag 19 Jul 19 4.09pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Evens is a 50% chance. Some people make errors in what they think is the percentage chance is with odds on a result or likelihood.,

I'm sure they do, but I well understand that even money means a 50% chance. The stated odd from the 'money where your mouth is' crowd, is that an election this year is certainly not an unlikely scenario in any sense of the word.

I'm saying that the looming possibility of a GE is impacting odds of other events such as the withdrawal of article 50, which outside of a GE context would surely be very unlikely to take place.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 19 Jul 19 4.51pm

Public sector pay rises are all very nice and everything....but?

How can a just out going Prime Minister justifying writing checks for an incoming PM to manage? This has to come from existing budgets.... Does Johnson support all this?

And look at the behaviour of the Chancellor showing his 'remainer' cards once again.....prepared to do anything to stop a 'no deal'....I expect the gravy train in Brussels awaits him.

As dirty tricks are used on you, the temptation to rub their noses in their own ethnics is strong.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jul 2019 4.55pm)

 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 19 Jul 19 5.13pm

Left "very shaken"
BBC News - Protester admits calling MP Anna Soubry a Nazi
[Link]

Does she look "very shaken"
[Link]

Wonder how many of left have shouted Nazi!!
[Link]


Edited by dannyboy1978 (19 Jul 2019 5.15pm)

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Jul 19 5.38pm

Originally posted by dollardays

I'm sure they do, but I well understand that even money means a 50% chance. The stated odd from the 'money where your mouth is' crowd, is that an election this year is certainly not an unlikely scenario in any sense of the word.

I'm saying that the looming possibility of a GE is impacting odds of other events such as the withdrawal of article 50, which outside of a GE context would surely be very unlikely to take place.

Yes the outcomes are anyone’s guess again.

 


COYP

Stirlingsays Flag 19 Jul 19 5.42pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Left "very shaken"
BBC News - Protester admits calling MP Anna Soubry a Nazi
[Link]

Does she look "very shaken"
[Link]

Wonder how many of left have shouted Nazi!!
[Link]


Edited by dannyboy1978 (19 Jul 2019 5.15pm)

Yep.....it's the establishment punishing its opponents using criteria which could be subjectively applied to many other situations.

 


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Invalid user 2019 Flag 19 Jul 19 6.49pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Yes the outcomes are anyone’s guess again.

Yes which is quite remarkable after all of this time. Let's hope we're still not saying the same thing in six months!

 

Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 19 Jul 19 10.53pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Public sector pay rises are all very nice and everything....but?

How can a just out going Prime Minister justifying writing checks for an incoming PM to manage? This has to come from existing budgets.... Does Johnson support all this?

And look at the behaviour of the Chancellor showing his 'remainer' cards once again.....prepared to do anything to stop a 'no deal'....I expect the gravy train in Brussels awaits him.

As dirty tricks are used on you, the temptation to rub their noses in their own ethnics is strong.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jul 2019 4.55pm)

The word is cheques and the fat scruffy cvnt can barely support his own trousers.

 

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Jul 19 11.12pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

The word is cheques and the fat scruffy cvnt can barely support his own trousers.

Corbyn is a scruffy c*** but hardly fat?

 


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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 19 Jul 19 11.41pm

Yes Corbyn is a c**t and scruffy but not fat.
How can you run a country when you're a morbidly obese chancer like Johnson ? What a low point in our history.

Have to say I judge people by their weight. Pretty decent barometer. Winston Churchill did quite well mind.

 

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Jul 19 11.49pm

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Yes Corbyn is a c**t and scruffy but not fat.
How can you run a country when you're a morbidly obese chancer like Johnson ? What a low point in our history.

Have to say I judge people by their weight. Pretty decent barometer. Winston Churchill did quite well mind.

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing the rather svelte Funty as PM.........

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jul 19 12.05am

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Yes Corbyn is a c**t and scruffy but not fat.
How can you run a country when you're a morbidly obese chancer like Johnson ? What a low point in our history.

Have to say I judge people by their weight. Pretty decent barometer. Winston Churchill did quite well mind.

Poor old Father Christmas isn't welcome down your chimney then.

Jimmy Carr had that good joke about fat people:

A women said 'you're fattest'.....so I said, 'no I'm not you're fattest'.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 20 Jul 19 8.27am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Public sector pay rises are all very nice and everything....but?

How can a just out going Prime Minister justifying writing checks for an incoming PM to manage? This has to come from existing budgets.... Does Johnson support all this?

And look at the behaviour of the Chancellor showing his 'remainer' cards once again.....prepared to do anything to stop a 'no deal'....I expect the gravy train in Brussels awaits him.

As dirty tricks are used on you, the temptation to rub their noses in their own ethnics is strong.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jul 2019 4.55pm)

When they say Public Sector they only mean NHS staff, Teachers and Armed Forces. The "Whitehall" Departments (for example Border Force) have been offered 1% which is what they have had for the last 10 years or so.

 

palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 20 Jul 19 10.05am

Originally posted by Jimenez

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing the rather svelte Funty as PM.........

Sycophantic bender.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jul 19 1.48pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

When they say Public Sector they only mean NHS staff, Teachers and Armed Forces. The "Whitehall" Departments (for example Border Force) have been offered 1% which is what they have had for the last 10 years or so.

Yep, it seems to be aimed at where they have a recruitment crisis.

Trying to solve with tax payer money problems that have nothing to do with wages......and, in terms of teaching the bureaucracy that created the problems has come from politicians.....several Education secretaries have lied about reducing bureaucracy and have done effectively nothing.

As for the forces, what right minded working class lad would want to fight for this shower.....it's of little surprise that enough aren't signing up.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jul 2019 1.52pm)

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 20 Jul 19 2.21pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, it seems to be aimed at where they have a recruitment crisis.

Trying to solve with tax payer money problems that have nothing to do with wages......and, in terms of teaching the bureaucracy that created the problems has come from politicians.....several Education secretaries have lied about reducing bureaucracy and have done effectively nothing.

As for the forces, what right minded working class lad would want to fight for this shower.....it's of little surprise that enough aren't signing up.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jul 2019 1.52pm)

Totally agree. Interestingly though, in Border Force they can recruit but not retain. This is mainly due to awful shift patterns, p*** poor management and lack of any wage rises. It really is a false economy as they spend thousands on training but fail to address the retention issues

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Jul 19 2.49pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Totally agree. Interestingly though, in Border Force they can recruit but not retain. This is mainly due to awful shift patterns, p*** poor management and lack of any wage rises. It really is a false economy as they spend thousands on training but fail to address the retention issues

They could recruit from abroad.

 


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