Please explain what they could do about it? Vote of no confidence? Bring it on, as Labour have gone, I suspect some of the Tory Brexit busters will either be de-selected or lose their seats (those whose constituents voted to leave).
I can forsee the Brexit party targeting seats in, mainly Labour constituencies, where they voted to leave but the MP has tried to derail Brexit eg Yvette Cooper with the Tories probably not even contesting them

Decided to stick my toe back into the political waters now that the mud has cleared a little.

For me the key to understanding it all is the Dominic Cummings/Gove partnership in essentially taking control of the No Deal preparations. One hell of a combination and sending a crystal clear message. This is a s*** or bust, in less than 100 days, piece of political theatre.

Johnson is a student of history. And knows that his entire political legacy rests on one single date. October 31st, 2019.

If we are still in the EU come November 1st he will be remembered as a failure. Nothing else matters to him now.

He has effectively burnt all the Remain bridges. His insistence on not sitting down to talk to the EU until it drops the backstop means he is gambling everything on it either backing down or else Parliament forces him, and it will require Conservative rebels to effectively collapse their own Government, to fight an election on a simple No Deal narrative.

And that is winnable. Lose all the rebels, replace them with people willing to do what their manifesto promises and do a deal with the Brexit Party. And Johnson strolls an October election. 30-40 seat majority. Maybe even stand aside in certain seats for Brexit candidates. With a Labour Party torn to bits as the Lib-Dems effectively cripple them. No way they will combine because Labours northern MP's will be up in arms. A suicide pact for Labour.

My own prediction is that Corbyn will bottle calling a vote of no confidence and that Johnson might get us out on October 31st on the back of Labour rebels abstaining on votes designed to stop at it.

In terms of the EU, I suspect they will not blink until at least the middle of September but Brexit will be decided by the end of that month.

Also interesting noises from Ireland. A hard-border destroys them. 85% of their exports have to cross it compared to less than half of 1% of ours. That reality is starting to hit home.

I was wary of Johnson. Still am. But the makeup of his cabinet along with that Cummings/Gove combination has caused me to concede that perhaps, and it is a huge perhaps, he might actually deliver on what he has said he would.

Halloween is Johnsons date with destiny. No other way of looking at it. Might be worth stocking up on the fireworks early because it could be a wonderful night!

But if November 1st dawns with that s***ty flag not having one less star, Brexit is over. A truly historic few weeks await us.

Edited by Matov (31 Jul 2019 12.09am)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Not much in that to disagree with although I suspect that he set his sights on number 10 early and was willing to do anything to get there. Meaning he desires a legacy. And that he might just succeed.

Plus he has a teflon quality. By rights and all modern parameters he should not have been in with a sniff of making it but he did so.

Reserving judgement at the moment. October 31st really is the key date here and I suspect he knows it. What has impressed me is how he has hit the ground running on Brexit. No smoke and mirrors and effectively setting out his stall straight away with no room for backing out.

And I know I bang on about it but that Cummings/Grove axis is the key for me. Raab as foreign secretary as well. Bridges and boats are well and truly burnt and this is a fight to the political death for him. And he must know it. Failure to leave by October 31st and none of it matters anymore as the Brexit Party effectively kill the Tories off for decades to come.

September is now the key. Lot of hot air between now and the first week but then it gets real.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

What a refreshing comment at a time when so many others have already made their minds up that we are doomed, based on absolutely nothing but their existing prejudice.

My only complaint at the moment is that I'd like to see less photo opportunities of our Prime Minister holding chickens as it really isn't necessary

Good point. I think the EU will not miss us but they will miss our money. The concern for them is that if we "get away with it" others may follow.

Moving onto to Johnson's strategy I think he has it about right. There is no point in holding discussions with the EU unless they take the backstop off the table. The EU's strategy is quite clear delay and prevarication, this suits the Remainers as they hope the tide will tun in their favour and it never happens.

Johnson has now called the EU's bluff and they have a big decision to make. Compromise on the backstop or risk a hard Brexit with them seen as the guilty party. They could go "all in" and hope that parliament rejects a hard Brexit and that Johnson then loses a general election. However this is high risk as I think Johnson may get the votes.

Parliament has rejected a hard Brexit before however this was only by one vote and at a time when it was thought a better deal was available. Faced with a binary choice some MPs will have a tough call.

The Remainers don't enter the equation as they will always vote against it whatever the deal or no deal. Some MP's can be persuaded to switch sides because they face the prospect of facing a rampant Brexit party at the GE. Boris may also pressurise the local party to deselect an MP in favour of a Brexiteer.

If Johnson can show that the EU are the bad guys and are unwillingly to negotiate I think he will get just enough votes to pass a no deal Brexit but it will be tight.

For now he needs to increase the Tory vote in the opinion polls. The more likely a Tory win at the next GE the more likely that the EU will realise that a deal is the best solution for them as Corbyn will not be the next PM.

One more point

Explain what is "scare mongering" about publishing a factual article about a vital issue dominating the national news?

Don't we have a right to understand the impact?

Do you prefer that we be kept in the blissful ignorance of promises, wishes and hopes?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I agree no-one knows. Certainly not Bogus Johnson.

I don't think the DUP will break with the Tories but I do believe that there is likely to be a significant group of Tories who will put country before party at this time if a no deal outcome is the alternative.

I think there is a growing mood within Labour that they need to replace Corbyn if they are to secure power so don't be surprised if something happens in the coming few weeks to achieve that in time.

But I am only speculating too.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

The article was deliberately written to appeal to people like yourself who are so close minded that they aren't interested in any other viewpoint apart from their own.

Everyone has the right to understand the impact of a no deal Brexit but reading biased articles like that one won't help at all

This has been the problem with the whole Brexit affair.
There is virtually no unbiased information and no previous experience to draw on.

Primarily the fact that it's all doom and gloom and painting a picture of the worst possible scenario which is typical BBC