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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 21 Jul 16 8.14pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm not sure what alternative universe you are posting from. Does Mr Spock have a beard? Yes we vulcan
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  Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jul 16 9.32pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Yes we vulcan You have finally GORN mad.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 22 Jul 16 8.21am |
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Even those closest to him are struggling to see much point in him [Link] Comedy gold "The Leader of the Labour Party was proposing to address an issue with one of his own MPs by ringing his Dad." Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (22 Jul 2016 8.23am)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Jul 16 11.46am |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Even those closest to him are struggling to see much point in him [Link] Comedy gold "The Leader of the Labour Party was proposing to address an issue with one of his own MPs by ringing his Dad." Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (22 Jul 2016 8.23am) Worth reading the comments. There's been a spate of truth bending and near lies from those mp's taking part in the coup, this is just another example.
Edited by nickgusset (22 Jul 2016 11.46am)
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| Stuk Top half 22 Jul 16 11.56am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Worth reading the comments. There's been a spate of truth bending and near lies from those mp's taking part in the coup, this is just another example.
Edited by nickgusset (22 Jul 2016 11.46am) The language of Corbyn support is god awful. Do you mean leadership contest? That page shows the same number of by-election wins for the Conservatives as Labour, which is a poor result against the incumbent party.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Jul 16 12.04pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
The language of Corbyn support is god awful. Do you mean leadership contest? That page shows the same number of by-election wins for the Conservatives as Labour, which is a poor result against the incumbent party.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jul 16 12.14pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Nick I might be wrong but I think the message the person was trying to get across is that Labour in their current position are unelectable in terms of a 'General Election'.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 22 Jul 16 12.45pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Even you don't really believe that.
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| Stuk Top half 22 Jul 16 1.07pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I didn't say that. I pointed out that they won the same number of by-elections as the party in government. Which is poor. Even the Lib dems won 3 of them! If you think he can even keep the party together, never mind win a majority of seats in 2020, as leader - you're bonkers. Edited by Stuk (22 Jul 2016 1.07pm)
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| davidpercival Croydon 22 Jul 16 1.35pm |
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Nick makes a good point as always. The link is interesting but did you notice seem to have lost a seat in Sherwood which they held previously because they did not put up a candidate. Very strange. Amazing that 180.000 people paid £25 to vote as supporters in the leadership election (that is over £5 million for party coffers). This means that Labour now has more registered supporters than the whole Tory membership. One thing you can say about JC, he certainly gets people involved in politics. Originally posted by nickgusset
Worth reading the comments. There's been a spate of truth bending and near lies from those mp's taking part in the coup, this is just another example.
Edited by nickgusset (22 Jul 2016 11.46am)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jul 16 1.41pm |
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Originally posted by davidpercival
Nick makes a good point as always. The link is interesting but did you notice seem to have lost a seat in Sherwood which they held previously because they did not put up a candidate. Very strange. Amazing that 180.000 people paid £25 to vote as supporters in the leadership election (that is over £5 million for party coffers). This means that Labour now has more registered supporters than the whole Tory membership. One thing you can say about JC, he certainly gets people involved in politics. Yes they have got involved in unsavoury ways - just ask Angela Eagle.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 22 Jul 16 2.11pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Quote reborn at 13 Aug 2015 7.28pm
Quote dannyh at 13 Aug 2015 1.43pm
Look, even Tony Blair has come out and pleaded with Labour voters not to vote in Corbyn. As I said vote him lefties, and you have single handedly given power to the Tories for the next......... however many years you keep him at the helm for. Delusional, socialist fantasist who would bring the country to its knee's from a position of steady recovery, within months of his term in office (God forbid). And if you thought the Tory’s handed Labour their collective arses to them in the last election, wait and see what happens if gets elected. Please god let him win.
Exactly. Im a life long Tory voter, but I don't think its healthy at all not to have a robust opposition, and under Corbyn Labour will be a shambles.
Look chief. The people who joined the Labour Party to vote for Corbyn are in no way representative of the increasingly right leaning people of Britain. Either you want to have a chance of not being totally wiped out in the next election or you want to hold on to your potty, minority, far left principles for the bants. Labour only have students, the ethnics and a few old die hard socialist fat blokes from up north voting for them now anyway, so you are only making it worse for yourselves.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 22 Jul 16 2.19pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Look chief. The people who joined the Labour Party to vote for Corbyn are in no way representative of the increasingly right leaning people of Britain. Either you want to have a chance of not being totally wiped out in the next election or you want to hold on to your potty, minority, far left principles for the bants. Labour only have students, the ethnics and a few old die hard socialist fat blokes from up north voting for them now anyway, so you are only making it worse for yourselves. I'm not going to disagree necessarily on Corbyn but I'd be interested to know if you have anything to back up the statement in bold. Most of the polls show increasing support for policies such as nationalisation, higher progressive taxation, tariffs on (cheap) imports etc - policies traditionally associated with the Left.
"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 22 Jul 16 3.51pm |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
I'm not going to disagree necessarily on Corbyn but I'd be interested to know if you have anything to back up the statement in bold. Most of the polls show increasing support for policies such as nationalisation, higher progressive taxation, tariffs on (cheap) imports etc - policies traditionally associated with the Left. It's a fair point. I think the political landscape has changed quite a lot and people are not necessarily adhering to a party line on their opinions with regard specific issues. However when it comes to voting in an election, there is tenancy to choose a party that best represents core beliefs, self interest or maybe the least worst option. The rise of UKIP and the Leave votes suggests more right of centre attitude to me, especially when you consider how unrepresentative the ethnic vote of London and the SNP vote of Scotland is compared to the rest of the country.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Jul 16 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I didn't say that. I pointed out that they won the same number of by-elections as the party in government. Which is poor. Even the Lib dems won 3 of them! If you think he can even keep the party together, never mind win a majority of seats in 2020, as leader - you're bonkers. Edited by Stuk (22 Jul 2016 1.07pm) Labour stood candidates in 8 council by-elections. The Labour vote rose in 7 of these, and all the seats defended by Labour were held. The average rise in the Labour vote was just over 10%.
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| Stuk Top half 22 Jul 16 4.07pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Labour stood candidates in 8 council by-elections. The Labour vote rose in 7 of these, and all the seats defended by Labour were held. The average rise in the Labour vote was just over 10%. Are you blind? Choosing not to bother doesn't mean they didn't lose it. Newark & Sherwood DC, Balderton South- 21st July 2016 Conservative 483 [82.4%; +25.5%] Selby DC, Bryam & Brotherton- 14th July 2016 Conservative 251 [44.3%; +11.8%] They lost 2 seats, which was more than any other party.
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| Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 25 Jul 16 8.12am |
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Attachment: | Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jul 16 8.16am |
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Article in yesterday's 'Sunday Mail' :
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| Stuk Top half 25 Jul 16 1.22pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Reported about Corbyns speech today You won't have read this in the papers because they have been too busy, he says. Labour took Thanet from ukip he says, to huge applause Seems to be news to everyone He's actually retarded.
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