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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 20 May 17 9.29pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
So you are like Alf Garnett, ie: 'racist', if you don't like curry? If you think that then you are not very bright.
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 Stirlingsays 20 May 17 9.31pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I was being facetious. My grandfather actually did fight in the war after volunteering which he never had to and never did he whinge about the country because of whoever or their cuisine and he lived with the constant noise of reggae music and could afford to move. He wasn't a leftie. Just a bit open minded. So what, I don't regard your grandfather as any better than any of those who did complain about it. Maybe your grandfather would have been more comfortable with multiculturalism. If so then your grandfather was in a minority.....But from within a generation that was far more useful than the countless morons after them that benefited from what they collectively did yet took the piss out of them. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 May 2017 10.02pm)
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| Stirlingsays 20 May 17 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If you think that then you are not very bright. Come on Nick, you can't accuse someone else of not being too sharp when you are out campaigning for Corbyn. That's the biggest waste of time since the creation of ITV.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 20 May 17 9.55pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If you think that then you are not very bright. So what do the posts on here implying that really
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 May 17 12.14am |
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Gap down to single figures!
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 21 May 17 5.54am |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 May 17 7.39am |
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Originally posted by Willo
All I will say is : But at the end of the day we Conservatives take nothing for granted and are fighting hard for every vote to prevent a coalition of chaos and Brexit negotiations led by Corbyn. Think I will leave it at this on this thread, else it will descend into acrimony with me being in the 'Spotlight' and the debate will veer off the subject matter. Edited by Willo (21 May 2017 12.29am) I'm getting deja vu
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 May 17 12.13pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
This is astonishing. I can't believe what i'm seeing happen right now in British politics. Changing of the guard. How? I don't see it. May is going to win. It's a meter of by how many. How does that equate to 'changing of the guard'.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 May 17 12.43pm |
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Can someone explain why people say Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser but say also that he is a pacifist?
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 21 May 17 12.55pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Can someone explain why people say Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser but say also that he is a pacifist? Well he is a pacifist when it would be in the interests of Britain to have to use force. But he is a sympathiser of terrorists when their cause is seen by him as anti-Uk or anti-American 'imperialism'.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 May 17 12.59pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Well he is a pacifist when it would be in the interests of Britain to have to use force. But he is a sympathiser of terrorists when their cause is seen by him as anti-Uk or anti-American 'imperialism'. I was rather hoping for a sensible answer.
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| Stirlingsays 21 May 17 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I was rather hoping for a sensible answer. Nope, he's exactly right. The IRA were still murdering our soldiers when he was refusing to condemn them but would condemn the actions of British security forces. Corbyn is a terrible representative for the British state.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 21 May 17 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I was rather hoping for a sensible answer. In 1984, when questioned as to his motives for hosting two convicted IRA terrorists to tea in the House of Commons two weeks after the IRA Brighton attack, Corbyn said he was "a campaigner against imperialism in Ireland".
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 May 17 2.03pm |
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[Tweet Link]
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| Stirlingsays 21 May 17 2.13pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
[Tweet Link]It's like you expect any of that to improve how people regard Corbyn with his relationship with the IRA.....For example the joke of splitting hairs between Sinn Fein and those carrying out the murders. It shows the vast distance between the mindsets of the far left and the majority who aren't. My brother went on a tour of northern Ireland back in the early eighties. I really don't appreciate this. I've heard Corbyn back then giving interviews where he refusing to condemn IRA attacks yet slags off state operations. Again....the far left are willing to say copper is gold....they think they are better but in reality they are no better than the Daily Mail.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| elgrande bedford 21 May 17 2.31pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
[Tweet Link]It's deafening the support he has given for the private prosecutions for the families of the Hyde Park bombings. The man responsible for that is walking free due to a labour government. Yet they have been denied legal aid countless times. How much has the bloody sunday inquiry cost so far.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 21 May 17 2.31pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
How? I don't see it. May is going to win. It's a meter of by how many. How does that equate to 'changing of the guard'. Both party's manifestos have broken with the mainstream of their party. Labour's is their most progressive for decades, while the Tories is breakingits pact with pensioners and neoliberalism, something implicit in conservatism since Thatcher. The 'centre ground' of the past decade is now not represented in british politics. As for the inevitability, the lead has narrowed from 23 to 9 points. All bets are off for the next 3 weeks. Incredible.l
If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4 |
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 May 17 2.36pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Both party's manifestos have broken with the mainstream of their party. Labour's is their most progressive for decades, while the Tories is breakingits pact with pensioners and neoliberalism, something implicit in conservatism since Thatcher. The 'centre ground' of the past decade is now not represented in british politics. As for the inevitability, the lead has narrowed from 23 to 9 points. All bets are off for the next 3 weeks. Incredible.l I disagree and think what we are seeing is the Tories facing up to the reality of an ageing population, a matter successive governments have failed to address, Corbyn looking to shore up his support in the party by issuing a 'radical' manifesto and Labours support moving back to its traditional core of 30%. The hubris of the first few weeks polls for May were just hubris and I stick to my prediction, made at the time of the calling of the GE, that the Tories majority would be a maximum 30 seats. The campaign will really get going from next week and if you think that is good for Corbyn, then you will be mistaken.
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