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VeganPower Chesham 19 May 17 9.10am | |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (19 May 2017 12.20am) There is nothing anti vegan in killing pests. Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose. It's not practical to live with pests. The milk industry isn't very pleasant and there are plenty of good quality substitutes. Milk is perfect for taking a 35kg calf and turning it into a 350kg cow, but even cows don't drink milk after 9 months. It might be useful to drink it it an extreme poverty situation, but for most of the developed world, plant based "milks" are better for us. The factory egg production system kills millions of male chicks at birth, and keeps lots of birds in awful conditions, and there is no need. It's possible to live a good life without that cruelty and exploitation.
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VeganPower Chesham 19 May 17 9.13am | |
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Originally posted by sa_eagle
Now you see you've lost this thread. You started off just asking if there were any other vegans (reading the thread I would guess the answer is not many) but now you're dictating to others what they must and mustn't do and for that my friend there is one simple response... f@ck right off! On the contrary, you will see that I asked nicely and you were the one who dictated where I should go hence dictating. Pot kettle black?
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VeganPower Chesham 19 May 17 9.14am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
He may well be in the minority but at least he can present his case in an articulate manner Thanks for the appreciation
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Part Time James 19 May 17 9.15am | |
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Threads this good should not be left so close to the award nominations.
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 19 May 17 9.27am | |
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Originally posted by Mad4palace
You mean after we have all this extra farmland since we wouldn't have to feed any livestock?... Like in the UK Snowdonia and the Brecons, The Yorkshire Dales, The Highlands. Then New Zealand and Australia? large swathes of Africa. etc. There is a reason why historically certain countries, regions & farms have farmed particular produce. Whether geographic or meteorological. What is suitable for one is not necessarily suitable for the other. Throw in climate change and the fact that there will be an estimated further 2 billion in the world by 2050. Good luck with that As for the grain that is grown for feeding animals, yes a significant proportion could be used to feed humans but again like some meat, the quality is not great
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bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 19 May 17 9.57am | |
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Originally posted by VeganPower
Thanks for the appreciation One thing i would like to ask is that as a Vegan you must struggle for a night out, We generally go out with friends for meals. How do you manage? Whilst i know there are Vegan restaurants these are very few and you wouldnt want to keep going back to the same places. Nights when you cannot be bothered to prepare a meal it must be difficult getting take away,how do you manage and what would you get as a take out? Just curious
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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 19 May 17 10.05am | |
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Staying healthy is just taking the longest possible way to die
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Kermit8 Hevon 19 May 17 10.09am | |
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Back in the hippy dippy 80's there was very little choice for vegans and vegetarians. Hockney's in Croydon was unique as in the only veggie restaurant heard of in South London but most of its food tasted like cardboard. One vegan i knew lived on rice and potatoes for a while. Not good. She was a bit of a nutter tbf. But now it is very, very different. All that wonderful new food from home and abroad and all those cookery programmes on tv to whet the creative appetites. And no red-meat responsible bowel cancer to look forward to. Not sure if it is an urban myth but there was always a story doing the rounds that there are blobs of hard to digest very old meat squatting long-term in your colon area.
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VeganPower Chesham 19 May 17 10.10am | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Like in the UK Snowdonia and the Brecons, The Yorkshire Dales, The Highlands. Then New Zealand and Australia? large swathes of Africa. etc. There is a reason why historically certain countries, regions & farms have farmed particular produce. Whether geographic or meteorological. What is suitable for one is not necessarily suitable for the other. Throw in climate change and the fact that there will be an estimated further 2 billion in the world by 2050. Good luck with that As for the grain that is grown for feeding animals, yes a significant proportion could be used to feed humans but again like some meat, the quality is not great It's absolutely the case that some land is more suitable for turning into food through meat and milk production, goats in rocky and hilly terrain for example. 80% of soya grown is used to feed livestock and we currently deforest to allow that soya to grow. But a vegan diet uses anything from a fifth to a twentieth of the land that a non-vegan diet does, and far, far less water and methane/co2 emissions. There is no need to use so many billions of acres of land fit for vegetable and good quality plant production for meat production. Sustainability of life on the planet could well depend that we don't.
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VeganPower Chesham 19 May 17 10.16am | |
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Originally posted by bubble wrap
One thing i would like to ask is that as a Vegan you must struggle for a night out, We generally go out with friends for meals. How do you manage? Whilst i know there are Vegan restaurants these are very few and you wouldnt want to keep going back to the same places. Nights when you cannot be bothered to prepare a meal it must be difficult getting take away,how do you manage and what would you get as a take out? Just curious Yes, this was a bigger deal in the early 90's than it is now. Veganism has hit the mainstream in the last couple of years, and it would be really unusual to find no vegan option on a night out. Draft Guinness is now 100% vegan! and like I've said a few times on this thread, veganism is doing what is possible and practical to avoid exploitation and cruelty to animals. I can still be a vegan and eat animals if there is no other option (although in practice this has meant one plate of moule frite in France about 15 years ago - they simply had nothing else for me) Edited by VeganPower (19 May 2017 10.16am)
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Kermit8 Hevon 19 May 17 10.16am | |
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Those 'backward' peoples dotted around the globe have the right idea. If you take something from nature, respect it, leave it with its dignity even in death, and give something back. Not too confident that the behemoth, fattybumbum creating, industrialised, profit-driven, junk obsessed meat industry does that.
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VeganPower Chesham 19 May 17 10.18am | |
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Originally posted by mezzer
Staying healthy is just taking the longest possible way to die and hopefully enjoy a more powerful quality of life along the way Could you use a hug bro?
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