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VeganPower Flag Chesham 19 May 17 9.10am

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64


Anyhow, I have no problem swatting flies. And I get extremely excited if the cat catches them pesky squirrels which invade my loft. And if it was legal to kill badgers and foxes......


I drink milk, eat eggs, shoot squirrels, and am applying for a gun licence to shoot deer (destructive fekkas).

Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (19 May 2017 12.20am)

There is nothing anti vegan in killing pests. Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose. It's not practical to live with pests.

The milk industry isn't very pleasant and there are plenty of good quality substitutes. Milk is perfect for taking a 35kg calf and turning it into a 350kg cow, but even cows don't drink milk after 9 months. It might be useful to drink it it an extreme poverty situation, but for most of the developed world, plant based "milks" are better for us.

The factory egg production system kills millions of male chicks at birth, and keeps lots of birds in awful conditions, and there is no need. It's possible to live a good life without that cruelty and exploitation.

 


22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

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VeganPower Flag Chesham 19 May 17 9.13am

Originally posted by sa_eagle

Now you see you've lost this thread. You started off just asking if there were any other vegans (reading the thread I would guess the answer is not many) but now you're dictating to others what they must and mustn't do and for that my friend there is one simple response... f@ck right off!

On the contrary, you will see that I asked nicely and you were the one who dictated where I should go hence dictating. Pot kettle black?

 


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VeganPower Flag Chesham 19 May 17 9.14am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

He may well be in the minority but at least he can present his case in an articulate manner

Thanks for the appreciation

 


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Part Time James Flag 19 May 17 9.15am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Threads this good should not be left so close to the award nominations.

 




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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 19 May 17 9.27am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by Mad4palace

You mean after we have all this extra farmland since we wouldn't have to feed any livestock?...

Like in the UK Snowdonia and the Brecons, The Yorkshire Dales, The Highlands. Then New Zealand and Australia? large swathes of Africa. etc.

There is a reason why historically certain countries, regions & farms have farmed particular produce. Whether geographic or meteorological. What is suitable for one is not necessarily suitable for the other.

Throw in climate change and the fact that there will be an estimated further 2 billion in the world by 2050. Good luck with that

As for the grain that is grown for feeding animals, yes a significant proportion could be used to feed humans but again like some meat, the quality is not great

Unless of course everyone wants to continue with the deforestation of rainforests

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 19 May 17 9.57am

Originally posted by VeganPower

Thanks for the appreciation

One thing i would like to ask is that as a Vegan you must struggle for a night out, We generally go out with friends for meals. How do you manage? Whilst i know there are Vegan restaurants these are very few and you wouldnt want to keep going back to the same places. Nights when you cannot be bothered to prepare a meal it must be difficult getting take away,how do you manage and what would you get as a take out? Just curious

 

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mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 19 May 17 10.05am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Staying healthy is just taking the longest possible way to die

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 19 May 17 10.09am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Back in the hippy dippy 80's there was very little choice for vegans and vegetarians. Hockney's in Croydon was unique as in the only veggie restaurant heard of in South London but most of its food tasted like cardboard. One vegan i knew lived on rice and potatoes for a while. Not good. She was a bit of a nutter tbf.

But now it is very, very different. All that wonderful new food from home and abroad and all those cookery programmes on tv to whet the creative appetites.

And no red-meat responsible bowel cancer to look forward to.

Not sure if it is an urban myth but there was always a story doing the rounds that there are blobs of hard to digest very old meat squatting long-term in your colon area.

 


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VeganPower Flag Chesham 19 May 17 10.10am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Like in the UK Snowdonia and the Brecons, The Yorkshire Dales, The Highlands. Then New Zealand and Australia? large swathes of Africa. etc.

There is a reason why historically certain countries, regions & farms have farmed particular produce. Whether geographic or meteorological. What is suitable for one is not necessarily suitable for the other.

Throw in climate change and the fact that there will be an estimated further 2 billion in the world by 2050. Good luck with that

As for the grain that is grown for feeding animals, yes a significant proportion could be used to feed humans but again like some meat, the quality is not great

Unless of course everyone wants to continue with the deforestation of rainforests

It's absolutely the case that some land is more suitable for turning into food through meat and milk production, goats in rocky and hilly terrain for example.

80% of soya grown is used to feed livestock and we currently deforest to allow that soya to grow. But a vegan diet uses anything from a fifth to a twentieth of the land that a non-vegan diet does, and far, far less water and methane/co2 emissions.

There is no need to use so many billions of acres of land fit for vegetable and good quality plant production for meat production. Sustainability of life on the planet could well depend that we don't.

 


22 years eating a vegan diet. Perfectly happy and healthy on it.

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VeganPower Flag Chesham 19 May 17 10.16am

Originally posted by bubble wrap

One thing i would like to ask is that as a Vegan you must struggle for a night out, We generally go out with friends for meals. How do you manage? Whilst i know there are Vegan restaurants these are very few and you wouldnt want to keep going back to the same places. Nights when you cannot be bothered to prepare a meal it must be difficult getting take away,how do you manage and what would you get as a take out? Just curious

Yes, this was a bigger deal in the early 90's than it is now. Veganism has hit the mainstream in the last couple of years, and it would be really unusual to find no vegan option on a night out.

Draft Guinness is now 100% vegan!

and like I've said a few times on this thread, veganism is doing what is possible and practical to avoid exploitation and cruelty to animals. I can still be a vegan and eat animals if there is no other option (although in practice this has meant one plate of moule frite in France about 15 years ago - they simply had nothing else for me)

Edited by VeganPower (19 May 2017 10.16am)

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 19 May 17 10.16am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Those 'backward' peoples dotted around the globe have the right idea. If you take something from nature, respect it, leave it with its dignity even in death, and give something back.

Not too confident that the behemoth, fattybumbum creating, industrialised, profit-driven, junk obsessed meat industry does that.

 


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VeganPower Flag Chesham 19 May 17 10.18am

Originally posted by mezzer

Staying healthy is just taking the longest possible way to die

and hopefully enjoy a more powerful quality of life along the way

Could you use a hug bro?

 


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