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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 31 Jan 22 6.28pm

Originally posted by doombear


Do you really think it might be the latter? Our summer dealings suggest to me at least that the club are not going to pay silly money for short term gain. The real business will be pencilled in for this coming summer and I suspect that DF & Co are already identifying the targets they want to bring in not to mention which of the expiring contracts they wish to renew. We knew from the start of this window that it was unlikely we would do any business unless the right type of player at the right price became available. We are fortunate that we are not in desperation straits like Newcastle and Everton.

I think the premis for a midfielder could have been instigated by Jimmy Macs extended injury whilst accepting that they are different kinds of player. We could be short of quality in that department if he struggles to regain fitness and we pick up another injury to say Schlupp who normally manages at least one injury per season.

To be fair, any loan player is short term gain. Whether it makes sense or not depends on the cost to added value ratio which no one would really know with DVdB until he joins a team. If he has a stormer at Everton we will regret it.

 

crvenaeagle Flag 02 Feb 22 11.16am

Why? I will never understand why players go to Everton. Crap, dead end club that never do anything. Total obscurity.

Perhaps nobody else wanted him?

 

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 02 Feb 22 12.28pm

Originally posted by crvenaeagle

Why? I will never understand why players go to Everton. Crap, dead end club that never do anything. Total obscurity.

Perhaps nobody else wanted him?

A, A, A, calm down, calm down.

Harsh words, harsh words but can't help but agree with the sentiment. Perhaps we should employ AJ and Yannick to consult on such moves? Always grateful for the wonga however.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

dreamwaverider Flag London 02 Feb 22 1.20pm

Originally posted by silvertop

I hate to break it to you but we still are.

West Ham and Everton gazump us because they have more money and are prepared to chuck as much at the seller as the seller demands.

Not necessarily a bad thing for us. We are a middling sized club run prudently on sustainable grounds. You play for us if you want first team football in the premier league and get paid well. But if you want to pull our pants down, go elsewhere.

On young Donny, would have loved him to have played for us for a bit, but it was not to be.

I agree, but at the same time I would rather splash cash as we have done. Short term loans I'm not convinced of especially expensive ones.

 

Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 02 Feb 22 2.49pm

I think there were other factors concerning DVDB going Everton.

1. Firstly, Everton is not too far away from United so he doesn't have to temporarily move homes.

2. His partner is pregnant, so she probably doesn't want to up sticks and move to London for the next 6 months.

So when Everton expressed an interest, it probably seemed easier for them.

 

Brinscalleagle2 Flag Brinscall 02 Feb 22 4.54pm

That I think is Crystal- Clear . COYP

 

sydtheeagle Flag England 03 Feb 22 11.47am

I'm pretty ambivalent about VdB. The upside was that it would have been, for us, what these days they call a "statement signing" and I do think it would have helped our image in terms of marketing ourselves to future targets to have done this sort of deal. But that said, I'm not entirely convinced that VdB was a player it made sense to push the boat out for. Not at all proven in the Prem and a reasonable argument can be made that he's a bit too lightweight for the league. All-in-all, I can see that keeping our powder dry until the summer was a better strategy.

I do find Everton's window an act of utter desperation. It seems the main motivation behind the signings of both VdB and Alli, each of whom cost a lot of money (whether in fees or wages) and neither of whom is anywhere near top form or at this point, a proven commodity is the usual Everton strategy of putting lipstick on a pig.

Everton has no real long-term recruitment strategy; they just chuck money at a couple of names so the fans stop moaning and go back into their box. I like Lampard but you'd think Everton had brought in Klopp the way their fans are reacting. That club is seriously delusional when it comes to understanding its own importance (or the lack thereof). In six months' time Everton'll be having the same predictable post-mortem about where it went wrong with everyone pointing fingers at everyone else. We may not be a bigger club than Everton but for damn sure we're a better run one.

 


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Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 03 Feb 22 12.01pm

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

We may not be a bigger club than Everton but for damn sure we're a better run one.

Yep, agree with you on this Syd.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 03 Feb 22 12.48pm

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

a proven commodity is the usual Everton strategy of putting lipstick on a pig.

I'm sure that Andros Townsend wouldn't be happy at being called a pig

 

sydtheeagle Flag England 03 Feb 22 5.28pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I'm sure that Andros Townsend wouldn't be happy at being called a pig

I think if Andros looked at Everton's record over the past seventeen games, he'd be honest enough to acknowledge they've been a pig. And until proven otherwise, lipstick (style, but no substance) is a pretty good description of VdB and Alli.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 12 Feb 22 5.51pm

Man of the match in his first start for Everton today

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 12 Feb 22 7.06pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Man of the match in his first start for Everton today


and a lot of Man U fans are NOT happy bunnies.

 

silvertop Flag Portishead 07 Mar 22 8.42pm

...but maybe now questioning his choice?

 

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 10 Mar 22 7.47am

Originally posted by silvertop

...but maybe now questioning his choice?

I very much doubt he's questioning his choice at all.

He's probably looking at his situation and definitively thinking "This was a terrible choice".

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

YT Flag Oxford 10 Mar 22 8.17am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I very much doubt he's questioning his choice at all.

He's probably looking at his situation and definitively thinking "This was a terrible choice".

I don't see why. He's now playing football whereas he wasn't doing so at Manure. If Everton finish low or are even relegated, so what? It's no skin off his nose.

 


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VinceHilaire Flag London 10 Mar 22 8.26am

Headless chicken against Spurs. But then he was not the only one playing poorly.

Being cynical, I guess you could say by not signing him, we have saved ££££.

Currently, not sure who he would have replaced.

Edited by VinceHilaire (10 Mar 2022 8.26am)

 

Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 10 Mar 22 8.28am

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 10 Mar 22 9.53am

Originally posted by YT

I don't see why. He's now playing football whereas he wasn't doing so at Manure. If Everton finish low or are even relegated, so what? It's no skin off his nose.

Yeah that is very true.

I was thinking more along the lines however of him being young, wanting to win things, at least try and promote his name etc. I think I am also convinced he will not be staying or wanting to stay at United so may have I been showcasing himself on the market for potential suitors etc., does that make sense or am I rambling?

Either way, I of course would still give my left nut to be in his position just thought these considerations might come into play! I'll stop with this particular lunatic diatribe.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

YT Flag Oxford 10 Mar 22 9.58am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Yeah that is very true.

I was thinking more along the lines however of him being young, wanting to win things, at least try and promote his name etc. I think I am also convinced he will not be staying or wanting to stay at United so may have I been showcasing himself on the market for potential suitors etc., does that make sense or am I rambling?

Either way, I of course would still give my left nut to be in his position just thought these considerations might come into play! I'll stop with this particular lunatic diatribe.

Not at all. You've made perfectly valid points.

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 10 Mar 22 10.22am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Yeah that is very true.

I was thinking more along the lines however of him being young, wanting to win things, at least try and promote his name etc. I think I am also convinced he will not be staying or wanting to stay at United so may have I been showcasing himself on the market for potential suitors etc., does that make sense or am I rambling?

Either way, I of course would still give my left nut to be in his position just thought these considerations might come into play! I'll stop with this particular lunatic diatribe.

I wouldn't worry too much on that Nic, the worst thing is, that an awful lot of us understood what you were on about . . .

 


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