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Den1923 Flag 05 Jan 24 2.50pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

You do realise Tyrick is the only player to start every game for us this season . . . [Link]

Because there is no competition for that position, I think he has played 19/20 for the record as he had one match suspension for two yellows!

 

Croydon-Trucker Flag 05 Jan 24 2.51pm

Originally posted by Willo

I can see why the referee in 'Real time' never deemed the incident a foul, but I can also see why the VAR intervened and sent him to the monitor.

I agree Willo , it looks like nothing in real time but slowed down looks like a potential leg breaker . Studs were up , over the top of the ball and made contact high on Clynes leg , OK no malice was intended but that like saying after doing an over head kick , sorry i didnt know his head was going to be there .

 

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 05 Jan 24 2.57pm

Originally posted by Den1923

Then please tell me who do you think is EPL quality my list is:-
Doucoure,Johnson,Henderson,Anderson,Guehi,Lerma,Eze and Olise. That makes eight if you count the two GK's and these are certainly the players that could be sold to top the table clubs in elite football. The rest are Championship quality at best and would be hard to sell on to another EPL club, including Mitchell who has been very disappointing and has been living up to expectation for sometime now.

You’re being hyperbolic again - surely the definition of a player of PL quality is not whether they could be sold to an elite club - that definition excludes more than half of the players currently playing in the league, which doesn’t make any sense. How many of the Everton or Bournemouth squads I shared would meet that definition? Probably less than us!

To suggest players like Mitchell, Ayew and Richards aren’t PL quality is silly. I’d also include Mateta, Edouard and Hughes.

Ward, Clyne, Tomkins and Schlupp are all at the wrong end of their careers but all have hundreds of appearances at this level. The rest are kids we are seeking to develop to this level, as is normal.

Like I said initially, there are some big holes in this squad and the recruitment has not been good enough, but it’s still nowhere near as bad as people like to suggest - it stands up in comparison to pretty much everyone in the bottom half, and arguably our best 5 or 6 players are as good as anyone’s outside the top clubs.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Jan 24 3.06pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

We only have one left back, which is likely to be the main reason. He is ok, but adds little to our attack. As poor as PVA was at defending at times, I preferred him to Mitchell. Just my opinion mind.

I think you've perhaps forgotten what PVA was like in the end. He was literally unable to defend. Mitchell is a better player but needs competition and, dare I say it, better coaching. If we could get an experienced left back in then Mitchell could possibly learn a lot. Possibly.

 


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dreamwaverider Flag London 05 Jan 24 3.10pm

If Calvert Lewin foul and red card had been Mateta, I would have been hopping wild.

 

Eden Eagle Flag Kent 05 Jan 24 3.13pm

Originally posted by doombear


If they have really said that, then they are wrong because Everton have a PL home game against Villa on Sunday 14th. It's more likely a case of a night in the week beginning Monday 15th. Bear in mind we have the 12.30 slot on 20th at the Emirates. I suspect Wednesday 17th will be the most likely date.

Now confirmed for Wednesday 17th at 7:45pm.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jan 24 3.17pm

Originally posted by Eden Eagle


Now confirmed for Wednesday 17th at 7:45pm.

I will refrain from watching it if it is on the television.
I really have no desire to subject myself to yet another drab and uninspired performance, causing a look of instant gaseous nausea to fall on my face.

Edited by Willo (05 Jan 2024 3.20pm)

 

The Dolphin Flag 05 Jan 24 3.34pm

That is the Arsenal game up the spout. Hodgson will need to put out a weak side and forget about the 4th round.
Idiocy last night not to go for it - bad management yet again!

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Jan 24 3.35pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

According to the bbc, they have the replay down for Mon 15th 20.00 ko. although it is still TBC.


Not with Everton playing Villa the day before!

 

Den1923 Flag 05 Jan 24 3.42pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

You’re being hyperbolic again - surely the definition of a player of PL quality is not whether they could be sold to an elite club - that definition excludes more than half of the players currently playing in the league, which doesn’t make any sense. How many of the Everton or Bournemouth squads I shared would meet that definition? Probably less than us!

To suggest players like Mitchell, Ayew and Richards aren’t PL quality is silly. I’d also include Mateta, Edouard and Hughes.

Ward, Clyne, Tomkins and Schlupp are all at the wrong end of their careers but all have hundreds of appearances at this level. The rest are kids we are seeking to develop to this level, as is normal.

Like I said initially, there are some big holes in this squad and the recruitment has not been good enough, but it’s still nowhere near as bad as people like to suggest - it stands up in comparison to pretty much everyone in the bottom half, and arguably our best 5 or 6 players are as good as anyone’s outside the top clubs.

Well sadly, I think you are trying to minimize the problems we are facing, Our EPL survival this year is in serious jeopardy because of prevarication by SP and the board over investment in the right players to make us competitive. As a result the whole team balance is wrong but I would accept Ayew should be included because of his tireless efforts, week in and week out. If we go down, the good players we now have, will all go to other EPL clubs and we will struggle to get out of the championship and could even slide further down the football pyramid as we have done in the past and as many clubs before have also gone because of owners not facing up to the shortcomings in quality in their teams. Sorry I respect your view but I do not agree that the situation is not bad, it is!

 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 05 Jan 24 3.51pm

Originally posted by doombear


Not with Everton playing Villa the day before!

Doesn't matter now, its Wed's 17th @ 19.45 confirmed

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 05 Jan 24 3.52pm

Originally posted by Den1923

Well sadly, I think you are trying to minimize the problems we are facing, Our EPL survival this year is in serious jeopardy because of prevarication by SP and the board over investment in the right players to make us competitive. As a result the whole team balance is wrong but I would accept Ayew should be included because of his tireless efforts, week in and week out. If we go down, the good players we now have, will all go to other EPL clubs and we will struggle to get out of the championship and could even slide further down the football pyramid as we have done in the past and as many clubs before have also gone because of owners not facing up to the shortcomings in quality in their teams. Sorry I respect your view but I do not agree that the situation is not bad, it is!

I appreciate the point but I obviously don’t need the risks of relegation spelled out to me, although I don’t think we ever have slid beyond the second tier in the past.

My point is not that I think we’re not at risk, it’s that I view Roy as *more* responsible for that than I think it’s because of the gaps in our squads - a better manager (see Sean Dyche) gets considerably more out of our squad, I’m certain of that.

 

Robk Flag 05 Jan 24 3.53pm

I thought Franca did all right.. surprised he didn’t stay on.. I do think he’ll be better on the left as he briefly showed at Man City....if he gets minutes I think he’ll improve too...

 

Croydon-Trucker Flag 05 Jan 24 3.56pm

Originally posted by Willo

I will refrain from watching it if it is on the television.
I really have no desire to subject myself to yet another drab and uninspired performance, causing a look of instant gaseous nausea to fall on my face.

Edited by Willo (05 Jan 2024 3.20pm)

As will i Willo , I think the best thing to do would be to put out the under 23s and let them have a go . A draw was probably the worst result we could have hoped for. Can we not just concede or not turn up and say the bus broke down or had the wheels taken of it while stopped at traffic lights in Liverpool. Its a common thing up there seemingly.

 

palace chick Flag South Croydon 05 Jan 24 4.27pm

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

As will i Willo , I think the best thing to do would be to put out the under 23s and let them have a go . A draw was probably the worst result we could have hoped for. Can we not just concede or not turn up and say the bus broke down or had the wheels taken of it while stopped at traffic lights in Liverpool. Its a common thing up there seemingly.

Terrible thinking. This is the FA cup and we should be trying to get as far as we can in this competition. Won’t affect our league position which is in jeopardy whether we stay in the cup or not. Us old timers should be wanting a winning Wembley appearance before we leave this earth. Get a grip, as bad as last night was Everton are beatable and we should go for it. Arsenal will most probably beat us whatever happens in the Everton replay.

 

NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Jan 24 4.34pm

Originally posted by palace99

Eze is a worry at the moment. When he has the ball i just want to see him running at his man, yet just often slows things down and makes a simple pass. He is the only one in that midfield who can do anything creative so i'd rather see him try and fail than not try. He still did good things yesterday but it was too infrequent for my liking.

As for his booking it was correct and completely unacceptable. What was he thinking. He needs to be careful as he is getting a reputation for going down too easily.

I was only thinking last night that he's started to turn into a latter day Jason Puncheon !

However Jason had lost a bit of pace by then. I'm sure Ebs will come good again, just needs to play through this sticky patch.

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Jan 24 4.36pm

Originally posted by Willo

I will refrain from watching it if it is on the television.
I really have no desire to subject myself to yet another drab and uninspired performance, causing a look of instant gaseous nausea to fall on my face.

Edited by Willo (05 Jan 2024 3.20pm)

I'm off the hook - already going to Ronnie Scott's that night !

 


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pssguy Flag 05 Jan 24 4.41pm

Originally posted by doombear


Not with Everton playing Villa the day before!

In 1969 we played 9 league matches between 15 March and 12 April inc 4/5 April. Got promoted as well

 

ambrose7 Flag Croydon 05 Jan 24 4.47pm

Now in the strange position of praying for Arsenal and Liverpool to draw a football match against each other to generate a replay.

Everton have 10 days off after the replay so I really can't see a reason for them not to go full strength again. We'd have to play a lot better than we did last night to beat them at Goodison.


 


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Croydon-Trucker Flag 05 Jan 24 5.38pm

Originally posted by palace chick

Terrible thinking. This is the FA cup and we should be trying to get as far as we can in this competition. Won’t affect our league position which is in jeopardy whether we stay in the cup or not. Us old timers should be wanting a winning Wembley appearance before we leave this earth. Get a grip, as bad as last night was Everton are beatable and we should go for it. Arsenal will most probably beat us whatever happens in the Everton replay.

You would rather put some of our key players at risk for the FA cup and leave us vulnerable to relegation is terrible thinking . We wont win the FA cup with the likes of City united Arse Spurs ect still in it , VAR and the FA will make sure of that . You need to get a grip we dont have the players or the depth in our squad. What if Eze or Marc Guéhi or Anderson or Lerma get injured for the rest of the season .Everton are beatable well we couldnt do it against 10 of them last night what makes you think we will do it against 11 of them away from home , did you spot something i didnt last night ?? did you even watch the game ? 2 words for you mate the first one begins with f .

 

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