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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 16 Dec 18 11.42am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

Not when the state proscribes the view that the rights of non anglo-saxons are less than that of anglo-saxons it isn't.


Oh I see, you think having rules is authoritarian.....You simply abuse the meaning of words.

So having a Police force is authoritarian....qualifications are authoritarian....I guess with your logic it's pick and choose.

You must find it so insulting to have to use the men's bathroom instead of the females.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 16 Dec 18 11.46am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Anyway I'll shut up rowing with Stevie boy on the Brexit thread....because it's all rather self indulgent.

 


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steve1984 16 Dec 18 11.50am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Oh I see, you think having rules is authoritarian.....You simply abuse the meaning of words.

So having a Police force is authoritarian....qualifications are authoritarian....I guess with your logic it's pick and choose.

You must find it so insulting to have to use the men's bathroom instead of the females.

The word you used was liberty - do try and keep up.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Dec 18 11.50am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

When was that then? 1980? 1960? 1840? 1750? 1066? How far back should we go before we reach an England that is good?

It's a fair question.
I'm not sure there is a definitive modern date you could point to but certainly, there have been a number of events that have impacted very negatively on this country post war. Certain cultures arriving here have been more of a problem than a blessing. Other have been more welcome.
What bugs me is how much time we now have to waste talking about race issues. This is all about minorities throwing their proverbial weight around and this will only get much worse as numbers grow.
Why would anyone who remembers Britain before all that see it as positive?

You do want honest debate right?

 

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steve1984 16 Dec 18 11.53am

Well you're the one advocating a return of some kind to the past. Can't you choose? 1980 perhaps?

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 16 Dec 18 11.54am

Originally posted by steve1984

Is that your take on the likely endgame? I'm not so sure. Isn't the government obliged to give Parliament a vote on the deal at some point? And if it gets voted down then Grieve's amendment gives Parliament to ability to determine what happens next.

Parliament could withdraw Article 50 if they consider us unprepared for no deal.

Not gonna happen before March 30

And any deal will never get through because we'll always be in a worse position. We're never going to get a better deal than the one we already have

 


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steve1984 16 Dec 18 11.55am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Anyway I'll shut up rowing with Stevie boy on the Brexit thread....because it's all rather self indulgent.

Self indulgent or more like pointless? Until you can come with an arguement that stands up to genuine scrutiny I would agree however that you're better off not engaging with me.

 

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Originally posted by steve1984

Well you're the one advocating a return of some kind to the past. Can't you choose? 1980 perhaps?

That's typical reductionism.

It tells me that you don't really want to discuss the topic seriously but just troll certain people.

Boring.

 

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steve1984 16 Dec 18 12.03pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Not gonna happen before March 30

And any deal will never get through because we'll always be in a worse position. We're never going to get a better deal than the one we already have

Probably not. And you're also right I think that Parliament won't vote through a deal that delivers lower economic benefits than full membership.

Basically anything can happen. Like for example the tory party splits after the meaningful vote on March 30th. At that point a no confidence vote is passed. An election is called. Some kind of weird b******ised SNP / Labour coalition gets a small working majority and we apply to withdraw article 50 after we've technically left. Strange concept but one that the EU might consider once there's a Government in Westminster that they can actually strike an agreement with. At the moment they're not willing to negotiate until there's a Government with the power needed to ratify what's been agreed. Can't say I blame them, they've already wasted enough time on this nonsense.

 

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steve1984 16 Dec 18 12.07pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That's typical reductionism.

It tells me that you don't really want to discuss the topic seriously but just troll certain people.

Boring.

OK let me try again then. At some unspecified time in it's recent past England was good as it was.

Are you saying then that we should try and recreate that period of time?

 

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steve1984 16 Dec 18 12.13pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is all about minorities throwing their proverbial weight around and this will only get much worse as numbers grow.

Surely once they've had enough babies they will no longer be a minority and conversely they will argue about you throwing your "minority" weight around?

Like for example the situation in Northern Island, where Britain artificially created a majority which is becoming a minority because the number of Republicans is growing?

Or Israel where the growth in the number of Arab Israelis is outstripping Jewish Israelis who will themselves become a minority in due course.

 

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Tawny Flag Croydon 16 Dec 18 12.37pm

double post

Edited by Tawny (16 Dec 2018 12.37pm)

 

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