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Stirlingsays 03 Apr 19 3.39pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle We need to look into these oranges. [Link] It matters so much to you lot that Trump is a liar. Yet they are all. The thing about Trump is that he's a winner and he's the only alpha male option for men to vote for. So we forgive him his trespasses. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

03 Apr 19 3.39pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

We need to look into these oranges.

[Link]

It matters so much to you lot that Trump is a liar.

Yet they are all.

The thing about Trump is that he's a winner and he's the only alpha male option for men to vote for.

So we forgive him his trespasses.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Maine Eagle USA 03 Apr 19 3.42pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays It matters so much to you lot that Trump is a liar. Yet they are all. The thing about Trump is that he's a winner and he's the only alpha male option for men to vote for. So we forgive him his trespasses. But not those whose tresspass against him But we really need to look into these oranges, Stirlingsays. I am not currently calling him a liar. I am saying that when someone cannot pronounce words like origins and anonymous, it might tell a story about mental capacity. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 03 Apr 19 3.42pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It matters so much to you lot that Trump is a liar.

Yet they are all.

The thing about Trump is that he's a winner and he's the only alpha male option for men to vote for.

So we forgive him his trespasses.

But not those whose tresspass against him

But we really need to look into these oranges, Stirlingsays.

I am not currently calling him a liar. I am saying that when someone cannot pronounce words like origins and anonymous, it might tell a story about mental capacity.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Stirlingsays 03 Apr 19 3.52pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle But not those whose tresspass against him But we really need to look into these oranges, Stirlingsays. I am not currently calling him a liar. I am saying that when someone cannot pronounce words like origins and anonymous, it might tell a story about mental capacity. Trump is obviously smart enough, but yeah he's certainly not educated or have a 'well do to' liberal mentality. It needs to be recognised that Trump has improved the economy, increased job numbers and improved their trade deals. In foreign policy, he isn't being ignored by Russia or China like Obama was.....When his red line was crossed he actually did something. If he's thick then perhaps what you think of as smart isn't up to much. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2019 3.54pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

03 Apr 19 3.52pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

But not those whose tresspass against him

But we really need to look into these oranges, Stirlingsays.

I am not currently calling him a liar. I am saying that when someone cannot pronounce words like origins and anonymous, it might tell a story about mental capacity.

Trump is obviously smart enough, but yeah he's certainly not educated or have a 'well do to' liberal mentality.

It needs to be recognised that Trump has improved the economy, increased job numbers and improved their trade deals. In foreign policy, he isn't being ignored by Russia or China like Obama was.....When his red line was crossed he actually did something.

If he's thick then perhaps what you think of as smart isn't up to much.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2019 3.54pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Maine Eagle USA 03 Apr 19 3.57pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Trump is obviously smart enough, but he's certainly not educated. It needs to be recognised that Trump has improved the economy, increased job numbers and improved their trade deals. In foreign policy, he isn't being ignored by Russia or China like Obama was.....When his red line was crossed he actually did something. If he's thick then perhaps what you think is smart isn't up to much. He definitely is not being ignored by Russia!! In fact Russia spent an enormous amount of time and illegal effort to get him elected. He also has more dodgy dealings with Russia through his family/cronies than any president in history. So yes, no ignoring by Russia there. If only Trump's red lines included not giving Putin a free pass for meddling in the US election process, which he is up to again. "I dont know why it would have been Russia" I seem to recall being said. Putin made "Strong denials". Ay carumba. That aside, we just need to look into these oranges. I just find that very amusing. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 03 Apr 19 3.57pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Trump is obviously smart enough, but he's certainly not educated.

It needs to be recognised that Trump has improved the economy, increased job numbers and improved their trade deals. In foreign policy, he isn't being ignored by Russia or China like Obama was.....When his red line was crossed he actually did something.

If he's thick then perhaps what you think is smart isn't up to much.

He definitely is not being ignored by Russia!!

In fact Russia spent an enormous amount of time and illegal effort to get him elected.

He also has more dodgy dealings with Russia through his family/cronies than any president in history. So yes, no ignoring by Russia there.

If only Trump's red lines included not giving Putin a free pass for meddling in the US election process, which he is up to again. "I dont know why it would have been Russia" I seem to recall being said. Putin made "Strong denials". Ay carumba.

That aside, we just need to look into these oranges.

I just find that very amusing.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 03 Apr 19 4.56pm
It is unfair to pick on someone who does not know the nationality of his (hopefully) own father. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

pefwin

Where you have to have an English ... 03 Apr 19 4.56pm

It is unfair to pick on someone who does not know the nationality of his (hopefully) own father.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

Penge Eagle Beckenham 03 Apr 19 4.57pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle We need to look into these oranges. [Link] Ah, MSNBC that bastion of unbiased fact and truth! If that's all they can critique Trump for, then I'd say he's doing a good job. I'd be more worried about the standard of the Democrat presidential nominees than Trump and oranges. In the same press conference, Trump and NATO Secretary General Stoltenburg speak about the increase in military spending thanks to Trump putting pressure on other countries paying their fair share like Germany. Not sure why Trump doesn't know where his dad was born! Edited by Penge Eagle (03 Apr 2019 5.13pm)

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 03 Apr 19 4.57pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

We need to look into these oranges.

[Link]

Ah, MSNBC that bastion of unbiased fact and truth! If that's all they can critique Trump for, then I'd say he's doing a good job. I'd be more worried about the standard of the Democrat presidential nominees than Trump and oranges.

In the same press conference, Trump and NATO Secretary General Stoltenburg speak about the increase in military spending thanks to Trump putting pressure on other countries paying their fair share like Germany. Not sure why Trump doesn't know where his dad was born!

Edited by Penge Eagle (03 Apr 2019 5.13pm)

pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 03 Apr 19 5.16pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle In the same press conference, Trump and NATO Secretary General Stoltenburg speak about the increase in military spending thanks to Trump putting pressure on other countries paying their fair share. Edited by Penge Eagle (03 Apr 2019 5.02pm) That's a good point, if NATO members do not want to spend the requisite 2% of GDP, they should be expelled. That would leave the US, UK, Greece, and Estonia, albeit UK expenditure had been below 2% of quite awhile. It wouldk be intereting if someone could put a number on teh combined shortfall in defence expenditure. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

pefwin

Where you have to have an English ... 03 Apr 19 5.16pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

In the same press conference, Trump and NATO Secretary General Stoltenburg speak about the increase in military spending thanks to Trump putting pressure on other countries paying their fair share.

Edited by Penge Eagle (03 Apr 2019 5.02pm)

That's a good point, if NATO members do not want to spend the requisite 2% of GDP, they should be expelled. That would leave the US, UK, Greece, and Estonia, albeit UK expenditure had been below 2% of quite awhile.

It wouldk be intereting if someone could put a number on teh combined shortfall in defence expenditure.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

Maine Eagle USA 03 Apr 19 5.30pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle Ah, MSNBC that bastion of unbiased fact and truth! If that's all they can critique Trump for, then I'd say he's doing a good job. I'd be more worried about the standard of the Democrat presidential nominees than Trump and oranges. In the same press conference, Trump and NATO Secretary General Stoltenburg speak about the increase in military spending thanks to Trump putting pressure on other countries paying their fair share like Germany. Not sure why Trump doesn't know where his dad was born! Edited by Penge Eagle (03 Apr 2019 5.13pm) That was just 1 snippet, MSNBC are actually more fervent in their distaste of trump than CNN. They truly despise his immoral, crooked and vulgar presidency. He cannot pronounce origins and doesnt know where his father was born. What a prize moron. I do wish the POTUS wasnt a flaming moron. It is most unfortunate. How can he command respect from other world leaders? Well I think we all know the answer there. Commander in Cheat. Do you know where your father was born, and can you pronounced Origins without sounding like you have an IQ of 65, PengeEagle? Maybe you can be president too (as long as you were born in the States, just like Trump's Swedish/German father was). Trump is so dumb, then when he gets the biggest win of his political career with Barr's generous synopsis of the Mueller report, he blows it off the headlines with his attack on Obamacare! Man he is stupid. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 03 Apr 19 5.30pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Ah, MSNBC that bastion of unbiased fact and truth! If that's all they can critique Trump for, then I'd say he's doing a good job. I'd be more worried about the standard of the Democrat presidential nominees than Trump and oranges.

Edited by Penge Eagle (03 Apr 2019 5.13pm)

That was just 1 snippet, MSNBC are actually more fervent in their distaste of trump than CNN. They truly despise his immoral, crooked and vulgar presidency.

He cannot pronounce origins and doesnt know where his father was born.

What a prize moron.

I do wish the POTUS wasnt a flaming moron. It is most unfortunate. How can he command respect from other world leaders? Well I think we all know the answer there.

Commander in Cheat.

Do you know where your father was born, and can you pronounced Origins without sounding like you have an IQ of 65, PengeEagle? Maybe you can be president too (as long as you were born in the States, just like Trump's Swedish/German father was).

Trump is so dumb, then when he gets the biggest win of his political career with Barr's generous synopsis of the Mueller report, he blows it off the headlines with his attack on Obamacare! Man he is stupid.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Stirlingsays 03 Apr 19 5.33pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle He definitely is not being ignored by Russia!! In fact Russia spent an enormous amount of time and illegal effort to get him elected. That's you basically being a conspiracy theorist at this point. Originally posted by Maine Eagle He also has more dodgy dealings with Russia through his family/cronies than any president in history. So yes, no ignoring by Russia there. If only Trump's red lines included not giving Putin a free pass for meddling in the US election process, which he is up to again. "I dont know why it would have been Russia" I seem to recall being said. Putin made "Strong denials". Ay carumba. That aside, we just need to look into these oranges. I just find that very amusing. Anyone who has listened to the balanced commentary regarding Russia would know that actually while they preferred Trump to Clinton their actual policy is to undermine the west and create division and conflict. They share the same perverse self harming desire of many on the far left who want the US to no longer lead the world as its main superpower......which reminds me of what Hitler said of the British in India.....which was essentially that they should be grateful that they had the British and not the Germans ruling them. Essentially Maine you're just doing the 'orange man bad' stuff.....which is ok but no different to how the tea party behaved towards Obama. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2019 5.41pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

03 Apr 19 5.33pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

He definitely is not being ignored by Russia!!

In fact Russia spent an enormous amount of time and illegal effort to get him elected.

That's you basically being a conspiracy theorist at this point.

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

He also has more dodgy dealings with Russia through his family/cronies than any president in history. So yes, no ignoring by Russia there.

That aside, we just need to look into these oranges.

I just find that very amusing.

Anyone who has listened to the balanced commentary regarding Russia would know that actually while they preferred Trump to Clinton their actual policy is to undermine the west and create division and conflict.

They share the same perverse self harming desire of many on the far left who want the US to no longer lead the world as its main superpower......which reminds me of what Hitler said of the British in India.....which was essentially that they should be grateful that they had the British and not the Germans ruling them.

Essentially Maine you're just doing the 'orange man bad' stuff.....which is ok but no different to how the tea party behaved towards Obama.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2019 5.41pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 03 Apr 19 5.35pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle That was just 1 snippet, MSNBC are actually more fervent in their distaste of trump than CNN. They truly despise his immoral, crooked and vulgar presidency. He cannot pronounce origins and doesnt know where his father was born. What a prize moron. I do wish the POTUS wasnt a flaming moron. It is most unfortunate. How can he command respect from other world leaders? Well I think we all know the answer there. Commander in Cheat. Do you know where your father was born, and can you pronounced Origins without sounding like you have an IQ of 65, PengeEagle? Maybe you can be president too (as long as you were born in the States, just like Trump's Swedish/German father was). Trump is so dumb, then when he gets the biggest win of his political career with Barr's generous synopsis of the Mueller report, he blows it off the headlines with his attack on Obamacare! Man he is stupid. Actually, I am aware that there is an error in the MSNBC piece on his ancestry. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

pefwin

Where you have to have an English ... 03 Apr 19 5.35pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

That was just 1 snippet, MSNBC are actually more fervent in their distaste of trump than CNN. They truly despise his immoral, crooked and vulgar presidency.

He cannot pronounce origins and doesnt know where his father was born.

What a prize moron.

I do wish the POTUS wasnt a flaming moron. It is most unfortunate. How can he command respect from other world leaders? Well I think we all know the answer there.

Commander in Cheat.

Actually, I am aware that there is an error in the MSNBC piece on his ancestry.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

Maine Eagle USA 03 Apr 19 5.51pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Originally posted by Maine Eagle He definitely is not being ignored by Russia!! In fact Russia spent an enormous amount of time and illegal effort to get him elected. That's you basically being a conspiracy theorist at this point. It is widely accepted, that Russia waged a massive campaign to bring Trump to power. That is no conspiracy theory old chap. It is written in the Mueller report. Putin openly said as much. The question is why. There are many theories as to why they desperately wanted to see Trump become president, and attempted to undermine and disrupt the Clinton campaign. One day, those motives will be fully and completely understood. Edited by Maine Eagle (03 Apr 2019 5.51pm) Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 03 Apr 19 5.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

He definitely is not being ignored by Russia!!

In fact Russia spent an enormous amount of time and illegal effort to get him elected.

That's you basically being a conspiracy theorist at this point.

It is widely accepted, that Russia waged a massive campaign to bring Trump to power. That is no conspiracy theory old chap. It is written in the Mueller report.

Putin openly said as much.

The question is why. There are many theories as to why they desperately wanted to see Trump become president, and attempted to undermine and disrupt the Clinton campaign.

One day, those motives will be fully and completely understood.

Edited by Maine Eagle (03 Apr 2019 5.51pm)

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 03 Apr 19 5.58pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle That was just 1 snippet, MSNBC are actually more fervent in their distaste of trump than CNN. They truly despise his immoral, crooked and vulgar presidency. And their ratings tanked to the lowest of the year when the Mueller report showed no Russian collusion. An audience built on anonymous sources and satire plus Rachel Maddow crying.

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 03 Apr 19 5.58pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

That was just 1 snippet, MSNBC are actually more fervent in their distaste of trump than CNN. They truly despise his immoral, crooked and vulgar presidency.

And their ratings tanked to the lowest of the year when the Mueller report showed no Russian collusion. An audience built on anonymous sources and satire plus Rachel Maddow crying.

Stirlingsays 03 Apr 19 6.02pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle It is widely accepted, that Russia waged a massive campaign to bring Trump to power. That is no conspiracy theory old chap. It is written in the Mueller report. Putin openly said as much. The question is why. There are many theories as to why they desperately wanted to see Trump become president, and attempted to undermine and disrupt the Clinton campaign. One day, those motives will be fully and completely understood. Edited by Maine Eagle (03 Apr 2019 5.51pm) Could you link to this, because I haven't heard that and If that isn't just partisan democratic stuff you're talking I might learn something. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

03 Apr 19 6.02pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

It is widely accepted, that Russia waged a massive campaign to bring Trump to power. That is no conspiracy theory old chap. It is written in the Mueller report.

Putin openly said as much.

The question is why. There are many theories as to why they desperately wanted to see Trump become president, and attempted to undermine and disrupt the Clinton campaign.

One day, those motives will be fully and completely understood.

Edited by Maine Eagle (03 Apr 2019 5.51pm)

Could you link to this, because I haven't heard that and If that isn't just partisan democratic stuff you're talking I might learn something.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Maine Eagle USA 03 Apr 19 6.07pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle And their ratings tanked to the lowest of the year when the Mueller report showed no Russian collusion. An audience built on anonymous sources and satire plus Rachel Maddow crying. Journalism is not based on ratings. You are falling into the Trump trap here of conflating ratings somehow with worthwhile reporting. If slack jawed MAGA hat waving goons prefer Fox (even with Donna Brazile who they detest) and that sycophant MAGA rally attending propaganda peddling Hannitty, the anti gay white supremacist ultra right wing Ingraham, or the child rape endorsing, woman shaming, pathetic little lying twerp Carlson, so be it. You seem to know a lot about America and its media - do you somehow get an illegal stream of Fox news and watch Hannitty every night in Beckenham? Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 03 Apr 19 6.07pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

And their ratings tanked to the lowest of the year when the Mueller report showed no Russian collusion. An audience built on anonymous sources and satire plus Rachel Maddow crying.

Journalism is not based on ratings.

You are falling into the Trump trap here of conflating ratings somehow with worthwhile reporting.

If slack jawed MAGA hat waving goons prefer Fox (even with Donna Brazile who they detest) and that sycophant MAGA rally attending propaganda peddling Hannitty, the anti gay white supremacist ultra right wing Ingraham, or the child rape endorsing, woman shaming, pathetic little lying twerp Carlson, so be it.

You seem to know a lot about America and its media - do you somehow get an illegal stream of Fox news and watch Hannitty every night in Beckenham?

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle USA 03 Apr 19 6.09pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Could you link to this, because I haven't heard that and If that isn't just partisan democratic stuff you're talking I might learn something. Not sure what you mean specifically, but there is even a lengthy wiki page on Russian meddling in support of Trump, and to hurt Clinton. [Link] Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 03 Apr 19 6.09pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Could you link to this, because I haven't heard that and If that isn't just partisan democratic stuff you're talking I might learn something.

Not sure what you mean specifically, but there is even a lengthy wiki page on Russian meddling in support of Trump, and to hurt Clinton.

[Link]

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Stirlingsays 03 Apr 19 6.27pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Not sure what you mean specifically, but there is even a lengthy wiki page on Russian meddling in support of Trump, and to hurt Clinton. [Link] I've already said they preferred Trump to Clinton. One obvious reason is that Clinton wanted more involvement in Syria and spoke about creating air no go zones over it. Trump on the other hand had spoken about normalising Russia relations. The affect of Russia's interference isn't know. It shouldn't be overlooked that.....though I didn't see it on this Wiki article....Comey said in 2017 that the GoP computers had also been hacked. The democrats had and spent far far more money than Trump did on the 2016 election. They also had most of the Broadcast media......There is no way that Russia could even touch that influence. I think you are snatching at rainbows here. What is important is that there was no Russian collusion by Trump and that was a huge Democratic conspiracy theory run by them and their activists for two years. From reading this Wiki page I'm not getting a balanced sense of their editing and omissions and as I suspect that when it comes to politics Wiki is pretty much a far left run partizan organization nowadays.....I have respect for the original aims of its creator but not for what it's become politically. I use to donate to them but I stopped two years ago once I noticed it happening. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2019 6.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

03 Apr 19 6.27pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Not sure what you mean specifically, but there is even a lengthy wiki page on Russian meddling in support of Trump, and to hurt Clinton.

[Link]

I've already said they preferred Trump to Clinton. One obvious reason is that Clinton wanted more involvement in Syria and spoke about creating air no go zones over it.

Trump on the other hand had spoken about normalising Russia relations.

The affect of Russia's interference isn't know. It shouldn't be overlooked that.....though I didn't see it on this Wiki article....Comey said in 2017 that the GoP computers had also been hacked.

The democrats had and spent far far more money than Trump did on the 2016 election.

They also had most of the Broadcast media......There is no way that Russia could even touch that influence.

I think you are snatching at rainbows here.

What is important is that there was no Russian collusion by Trump and that was a huge Democratic conspiracy theory run by them and their activists for two years.

From reading this Wiki page I'm not getting a balanced sense of their editing and omissions and as I suspect that when it comes to politics Wiki is pretty much a far left run partizan organization nowadays.....I have respect for the original aims of its creator but not for what it's become politically.

I use to donate to them but I stopped two years ago once I noticed it happening.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2019 6.29pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Maine Eagle USA 03 Apr 19 6.46pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I've already said they preferred Trump to Clinton. One obvious reason is that Clinton wanted more involvement in Syria and spoke about creating air no go zones over it. Trump on the other hand had spoken about normalising Russia relations. The affect of Russia's interference isn't know. It shouldn't be overlooked that.....though I didn't see it on this Wiki article....Comey said in 2017 that the GoP computers had also been hacked. The democrats had and spent far far more money than Trump did on the 2016 election. They also had most of the Broadcast media......There is no way that Russia could even touch that influence. I think you are snatching at rainbows here. What is important is that there was no Russian collusion by Trump and that was a huge Democratic conspiracy theory run by them and their activists for two years. From reading this Wiki page I'm not getting a balanced sense of their editing and omissions and as I suspect that when it comes to politics Wiki is pretty much a far left run partizan organization nowadays.....I have respect for the original aims of its creator but not for what it's become politically. I use to donate to them but I stopped two years ago once I noticed it happening. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2019 6.29pm) Just out of interest, what news source or media organizations do you actually trust, if any? Please dont say Fox news!! As I said I feel that the true motivation behind Russia's extensive support campaign for Trump will become known one day. You may well be correct that Trump's "America first" nationalism and protectionist non globalist outlook might just have done the trick there. The affect is not quantifiable, but there was clearly an effect to the Russian's extensive and far reaching efforts. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 03 Apr 19 6.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've already said they preferred Trump to Clinton. One obvious reason is that Clinton wanted more involvement in Syria and spoke about creating air no go zones over it.

Trump on the other hand had spoken about normalising Russia relations.

The affect of Russia's interference isn't know. It shouldn't be overlooked that.....though I didn't see it on this Wiki article....Comey said in 2017 that the GoP computers had also been hacked.

The democrats had and spent far far more money than Trump did on the 2016 election.

They also had most of the Broadcast media......There is no way that Russia could even touch that influence.

I think you are snatching at rainbows here.

What is important is that there was no Russian collusion by Trump and that was a huge Democratic conspiracy theory run by them and their activists for two years.

I use to donate to them but I stopped two years ago once I noticed it happening.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2019 6.29pm)

Just out of interest, what news source or media organizations do you actually trust, if any? Please dont say Fox news!!

As I said I feel that the true motivation behind Russia's extensive support campaign for Trump will become known one day. You may well be correct that Trump's "America first" nationalism and protectionist non globalist outlook might just have done the trick there.

The affect is not quantifiable, but there was clearly an effect to the Russian's extensive and far reaching efforts.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Stirlingsays 03 Apr 19 7.06pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Just out of interest, what news source or media organizations do you actually trust, if any? Please dont say Fox news!! As I said I feel that the true motivation behind Russia's extensive support campaign for Trump will become known one day. You may well be correct that Trump's "America first" nationalism and protectionist non globalist outlook might just have done the trick there. The affect is not quantifiable, but there was clearly an effect to the Russian's extensive and far reaching efforts. That's a good question. I've given up on the main news outlets as their funding systems make any attempt at objectivity a waste of time. I use to rely on the BBC until they gave up on being impartial....which was a gradual process. So I tend to listen to both sides and read between the lines. The only news source that I regularly listen to and trust the most is Tim Pool.....but he's often just on America politics. But even Tim Pool plays to his audience on choice of stories.......So essentially I'm saying that the search goes on. Most of the media today are little more than money whores...fighting for clicks and writing anything to please their wage payer......Finding an objective journalist has become an exercise in panning for gold. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2019 7.06pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

03 Apr 19 7.06pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Just out of interest, what news source or media organizations do you actually trust, if any? Please dont say Fox news!!

The affect is not quantifiable, but there was clearly an effect to the Russian's extensive and far reaching efforts.

That's a good question.

I've given up on the main news outlets as their funding systems make any attempt at objectivity a waste of time. I use to rely on the BBC until they gave up on being impartial....which was a gradual process.

So I tend to listen to both sides and read between the lines.

The only news source that I regularly listen to and trust the most is Tim Pool.....but he's often just on America politics.

But even Tim Pool plays to his audience on choice of stories.......So essentially I'm saying that the search goes on.

Most of the media today are little more than money whores...fighting for clicks and writing anything to please their wage payer......Finding an objective journalist has become an exercise in panning for gold.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2019 7.06pm)

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Maine Eagle USA 03 Apr 19 7.16pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays That's a good question. I've given up on the main news outlets as their funding systems make any attempt at objectivity a waste of time. I use to rely on the BBC until they gave up on being impartial....which was a gradual process. So I tend to listen to both sides and read between the lines. The only news source that I regularly listen to and trust the most is Tim Pool.....but he's often just on America politics. But even Tim Pool plays to his audience on choice of stories.......So essentially I'm saying that the search goes on. Most of the media today are little more than money whores...fighting for clicks and writing anything to please their wage payer......Finding an objective journalist has become an exercise in panning for gold. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2019 7.06pm) Just to look at one part of this, there are individuals hosts here and there at the big networks, who still have credibility in my view. Chris Wallace and Shep Smith at Fox Ari Melber at MSNBC Cuomo at CNN You learn to spot very quickly when people are going too far, Morning Joe for example go way too far down the never Trumper line. All opinion players on Fox prime time are peddling state propaganda, plain and simple. Don Lemon and Maddow often do the same in the other direction. Was not aware of Tim Pool, based on his twitter he is a big Bernie fan. Feel the Bern. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 03 Apr 19 7.16pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That's a good question.

So I tend to listen to both sides and read between the lines.

The only news source that I regularly listen to and trust the most is Tim Pool.....but he's often just on America politics.

But even Tim Pool plays to his audience on choice of stories.......So essentially I'm saying that the search goes on.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2019 7.06pm)

Just to look at one part of this, there are individuals hosts here and there at the big networks, who still have credibility in my view.

Chris Wallace and Shep Smith at Fox
Ari Melber at MSNBC
Cuomo at CNN

You learn to spot very quickly when people are going too far, Morning Joe for example go way too far down the never Trumper line.

All opinion players on Fox prime time are peddling state propaganda, plain and simple.

Don Lemon and Maddow often do the same in the other direction.

Was not aware of Tim Pool, based on his twitter he is a big Bernie fan. Feel the Bern.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 03 Apr 19 10.01pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Journalism is not based on ratings. You are falling into the Trump trap here of conflating ratings somehow with worthwhile reporting. If slack jawed MAGA hat waving goons prefer Fox (even with Donna Brazile who they detest) and that sycophant MAGA rally attending propaganda peddling Hannitty, the anti gay white supremacist ultra right wing Ingraham, or the child rape endorsing, woman shaming, pathetic little lying twerp Carlson, so be it. You seem to know a lot about America and its media - do you somehow get an illegal stream of Fox news and watch Hannitty every night in Beckenham? Why do you smear people's character because you don't agree with their politics? It's pretty nasty stuff how you describe these people. Well I lived in LA for two years up till last summer so I watched all the cable networks, where there is virtually zero unbiased reporting on US TV. At least Fox does criticise Trump on occasions and are open to the fact they are right wing. CNN on the other hand have the audacity to tell us they are impartial!

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 03 Apr 19 10.01pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Journalism is not based on ratings.

You are falling into the Trump trap here of conflating ratings somehow with worthwhile reporting.

You seem to know a lot about America and its media - do you somehow get an illegal stream of Fox news and watch Hannitty every night in Beckenham?

Why do you smear people's character because you don't agree with their politics? It's pretty nasty stuff how you describe these people.

Well I lived in LA for two years up till last summer so I watched all the cable networks, where there is virtually zero unbiased reporting on US TV. At least Fox does criticise Trump on occasions and are open to the fact they are right wing. CNN on the other hand have the audacity to tell us they are impartial!

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